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dizzyspots
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Mood: rather be on the beach at Gonzaga
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calming Baja fears???
OK fellow Nomads, I need some help...was planning our 4th trip (yeah...still a rookie) to Gonzaga Bay...each time I post this on "our" sites...I get a
lot of "Yay...lets go!!)...then bit by bit they bail...this time we had 14 possibles...narrowed it down to 6 "confirmed"...all of which bailed in the
last 10 days...the last one this AM
Now some had schedule conflicts, sick kids etc...but how do you explain the "drug wars and violence in Mexico" is NOT where we are going???
Cancelled the trip, because I dont want to travel cross country with only 1 vehicle...just the "buddy system" common sense thing...so...so I just need
to recruit travel partners form these pages??? (that didn't work either) or what??
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JESSE
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Tijuana a city of 2 million, wich is the epicenter of the problems, has about 2 drug related murders a day. 97% of those murders, involve people in
the drug trade, and rarely does an innocent person dies. Of those few innocent people that die, almost all are Mexicans.
Your chances of running into problems while driving tru Tijuana on your way to Gonzaga are a lot lower than crashing in a commercial airliner, or
getting killed in a car crash at the Freeway.
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noproblemo2
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Try sending them Wileys report on his recent trip to Baja!!!!
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dizzyspots
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How much time do you spend trying to convince folks...or do you just hope that you cross paths with other Nomads-to-be?
We almost cancelled last years trip, but luckily...the last couple at that time went with us and had a GREAT time...but there job picture changed or
they would've made it this time...
Mike
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dizzyspots
How much time do you spend trying to convince folks...or do you just hope that you cross paths with other Nomads-to-be?
We almost cancelled last years trip, but luckily...the last couple at that time went with us and had a GREAT time...but there job picture changed or
they would've made it this time...
Mike |
You can only say so much to those who believe what they want to believe. Try this post, but if they are negative, they will stay that way. Surfing at
Sunset wessongroup Baja Trip Reports
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dizzyspots
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where do I find wileys baja report...searched, but only found Nomads talking about Wiley??
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Mexicorn
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Dude just get on the toll road and you'll be OK.
Geez I'm glad I've got Baja to myself but the locals are starving...
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Bajahowodd
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This sadly illustrates the daunting task ahead for Baja tourism folks to try and convince people to come on back down. Unfortunately, bad and
sensational news gets big play in the press. I can only think of one or two positive articles that have surfaced recently. In fact, there was one that
primarily dealt with Rosarito that was posted on this board recently.
That said, we've made three trips down Baja so far this year, the longest being two weeks to Cabo and back. They were totally uneventful, and totally
fun. So, there you have point of view. Four weeks this year so far, and we're planning to head down again in November. I note that dizzyspots is
looking to be part of a group. FYI, our trips were just my wife and me. Although we did meet some great folks along the way. If there's any positive
about the current situation, it's that traffic is way down.
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dizzyspots
where do I find wileys baja report...searched, but only found Nomads talking about Wiley?? |
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=42020
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dizzyspots
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Not fearful...for the need of a group...just the rocky Puertocitos road...mechanical , etc...not much traffic in the middle of nowhere??
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Edguero
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We are leaving tues the 27th for Punta Final until Nov 6th with 2 vehicles that have been down that road many times. If you you want to convoy with us
let me know.
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Bajahowodd
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Sorry about that diz. I probably wrote it wrong. Just trying to note that traveling is safe. You're the one that was frustrated by others dropping out
from your plans.
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Woooosh
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Letter to the Editor in Wednesday's San Diego Union Tribune...
"Narco-trafficers and Baja tourism:
Your Oct. 17 front page story "Mexican marines criticized for shootings" did little to explain how a heavily armed narco convoy of SUV's could
disappear from the tourist-heavy toll road between Rosarito Beach and the Lobster Village (Puerto Nuevo) on a Sunday afternoon, let alone how the
Mexican marines could mistake a single Jeep off-roading for that convoy and open fire on the youths inside. That same day both free roads to Rosarito
Beach from Tijuana and Otay Mesa had mutilated bodies hanging from the bridges.
It may be statistically safe for tourists to visit Rosarito Beach, but the memories and visuals of a trip to Rosarito Beach could take a family a
lifetime of therapy to overcome and is hardly worth the deep fried lobster at the other end."
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Bajahowodd
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Maybe Juan Saldana might like to make you an assistant.
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David K
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A picture is worth a thousand words!
Shell Island (20 miles south of San Felipe) to Gonzaga Bay:
Having a great day at Gonzaga Bay!
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TMW
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Mike a lot of people feel as your friends do. They'll say yes when asked but then something always comes up and they drop out. Sometimes it's a real
reason usually job or family related. But many people are afraid especially the last few years with the drug stuff going on. That said once your past
the border areas your 99% free of it. I too had friends that would drop out as time to go came so I just went anyway with a friend, brother or my wife
or alone by myself. I usually bring my motorcycle more as a spare tire than anything else. As far as traveling the road to Gonzaga unless you drive a
rat trap your biggest problem would be a flat tire. Bring an extra spare, plugs and a compressor, a good jack and don't drive like your racing in the
Baja 1000. If necessary be prepared to spent the night, someone will be along. There is a whole crew working on the road part of the way. Get a
satellite phone if it makes you feel better.
I say go for it with others or alone and have a great time.
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TMW
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I would also add, get to know some of the people along the way so that if needed you could ask for their help in the future. There are a lot of Nomads
on this board that live in Baja. There are people in the Gonzaga area that run businesses that you may stay or eat at or buy stuff from that you could
get to know. Coco is a good guy to know and can be very helpful when necessary. Of course he's a little further down but some day you may come in from
that direction off hwy 1.
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DianaT
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Sometimes it might be worth trying to calm the fears of others about traveling to Baja, but often I think it is a waste of time.
I know many people who have lived all their lives in the San Diego area and have never, and will never, cross the border. It is like telling some
people you are moving to Central American, or to Baja and they go slightly crazy. Either they understand, or they don't. It becomes a wasted effort
to try and change their minds.
We have traveled where you are going a number of times and always alone---the way we prefer to travel. But we also take along lots of provisions in
case of a breakdown as one might wait quite a while for help.
I do understand you wanting a travel partner, however and wish you good luck!
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bajaguy
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SPOT Friend
Dizzy.....get yourself a SPOT, put your friends on the account and they can track your progress. SPOT can also be used to send an emergency signal and
summon help.
I have used it in the US and in Baja and it works great!!!
No hay problema
http://www.findmespot.com/en/
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dizzyspots
Senior Nomad
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Registered: 9-22-2008
Location: Mescal AZ
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Got a SPOT...use it all the time
no fear fellow Nomads...this trip has been swapped to Kino Bay...jumping on a previously scheduled kayak club trip...but we'll get back to Gonzaga
soon...or San Ignacio in the spring for the whales
guess I need to look for folks that WANT to go to Baja...and let the others figure it out or not
Vayo con dios mi amigos )(spelling?)
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