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Daj
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Why Caravans?
Why do people want to caravan down in to Baja?
Just wondering what the +/- are...
-A
\"Broken hearts are for buttcracks\" -Frank Zappa
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Martyman
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People feel safer in groups. This way they can avoid the real Mexico and keep complaining about everything. Those big guided RV caravans are a pain
if your trying to get past them on the road.
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k-rico
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One plus is having other folks that you know around when you stop at night.
One minus is having other folks that you know around when you stop at night.
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Lee
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Paint by numbers
| Quote: | Originally posted by Daj
Why do people want to caravan down in to Baja?
Just wondering what the +/- are...
-A |
Lots of reasons.
Some folks like the socialness of traveling with ''friends.''
Others feel safe in numbers.
It looks to me like there are lots of elderly RV'ers doing caravans. For those unfamiliar with Baja, this is a sort of ''guided'' tour and learn
as you go trip.
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monoloco
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It's really nice to get behind them at the Pemex.
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fdt
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Not all caravans are RV's.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
People feel safer in groups. This way they can avoid the real Mexico and keep complaining about everything. Those big guided RV caravans are a pain
if your trying to get past them on the road. |
That was the negative... and I agree with it.
The positive is that allows people to see Mexico who would otherwise not go, because with a group leader, there is no (or less) chance of getting lost
and knowing where to go for supplies, camping, etc.
Traveling with others takes a lot of the fear out of traveling in a strange place... and for some, it is fun to have lots of people around when they
get there.
There is one caravan company leader who is a Baja Nomad, a nice person who tries to make the experience positive and has his group space far enough
apart so passing them isn't so hard.
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bajaguy
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If you want to be a sheep in the flock, caravan
If you want to experience Baja on your own, with all of the adventure, go solo
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DianaT
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Some people need to travel in herds, and they quickly form a tightly woven clique.
Yes, there are exceptions, but we have had the misfortune of being in the same campground with caravans in Alaska, Baja and on the mainland of Mexico.
In those places, most of the campers in tents, campers, trailers, or Motorhomes are very friendly and love to share adventure, information, tips
about what to see and do----
Most of the caravan people will not even say hello. Many a time along with other solo campers we have decided we must be a threat to them.
But, it is what some people need and want and it does bring more business to these areas.
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bajalou
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Sometimes a caravan is a good way of getting a over-view of a area/country. Then return solo to explore the areas that produced some interest.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Skipjack Joe
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I'm not a follower. And I'm not a leader. So caravaning is out for people like myself. The restrictions you have with caravaning are just
unacceptable. In fact, they're the antithesis of what a baja vacation is all about.
It's fun to socialize with a group in an RV park. But next morning they go their way and we go ours.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
It's really nice to get behind them at the Pemex. |
At the pump or at the banos?
It's worse when a group of them all stop along side the road to take a whiz. 
Bob Durrell
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Lindalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
It's really nice to get behind them at the Pemex. |
At the pump or at the banos?
It's worse when a group of them all stop along side the road to take a whiz. |
RVers do not use Mexican
banos!
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Skeet/Loreto
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I traveled the Baja Road for many years, passing Caravans, having to slow down a few minutes and finally getting ariund them. Yes and having to get
fuel and wait in Line.
But Caravans are necessary for the older people who need help and feel more comfortable with some one directing them. Kinda like the Dumb, Loud Music,
Drug using,nekid, Youngsters of today who have no respect for any thing including themselves..
After CB Radios were allowed, I carried one and when I came up behing a Caravan I called on Channel 16 and they all helped get around on the cures and
go on my Way. Courtesy from the Older Americans who go their Butt spanked when they were young, thereby learning Respect for Other Folks.As opposed to
these present day Dummies who drive SUV's.
Skeet
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
It's worse when a group of them all stop along side the road to take a whiz. |
I can see it now. A chorus line of Good Sam shirts all peeing at the same time. It would be like "Mooning the Amtrak" in Mission Viejo.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
As opposed to these present day Dummies who drive SUV's.
Skeet |
You're right again, Skeeter. Actually it's not everybody who drives an SUV...it's just the girls and they all need a good spanking.
spankspankspank
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Bajahowodd
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There are actual businesses that organize and lead caravans(for a fee). Personally, I have mixed feelings about them. As has been pointed out above,
there are folks who otherwise would be too timid to travel to a place such as Baja if they did not feel security of the group. There are those social
types- people who can't stand quiet and solitude. There iss a benefit in the event of a mechanical breakdown, especially along the stretch South of El
Rosario where there is no cell service.
It did seem to me that a factor for caravans grew out of the fear of crime in the rural areas. Maybe it's just me, but not so long ago, it seemed that
there were many posts on this forum about imaginary and real criminal incidents such as car-jackings. Not so much anymore. Just have to wonder if the
Cartel crime caused people to become overly imaginative about those supposed crimes.
That said, I generally travel without other vehicles, and I have found some caravans to be a big pain in the culo, especially in the mountains.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
There are actual businesses that organize and lead caravans |
Here's one operated by our Nomad bud, Barry.
http://bajaandback.com
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Skeet/Loreto
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Many years ago in the States there were lots of Caravans.
These first got started when Airstream Travel Trailers became Affordable.
There were trips to Carlsbad Carvans, Yosemite and all over. Then Cruise Ships became the In Thing.
I must say theat i never had any trouble traveling that road in all my years. At one time nearly everyone carried a Siphon Hose and an Extra Gas tank.
If someone was stopped on the road you could stop and see if you could help -Mexicano or Americano.
Times Change.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
It's worse when a group of them all stop along side the road to take a whiz. |
I can see it now. A chorus line of Good Sam shirts all peeing at the same time. |
Now that would be a real photo-op 
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