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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaandy
snip<....So motoged, get out there on that road and have some fun. Get lost on the wrong road and see where it goes. Take your time and look around
closely... there are some AMAZING things to be seen along that piece of dirt track. Enjoy your time and write it all down so you can look back in ten
years and read it and remember it. And if ya feel like it, share it. It's all good. |
Thatsa whatta Ima gonna do
I will spend several days plunking in that area this next trip...as part of this winter's 2-week ride....several days in Bahia Asuncion enjoying that
area for the first time, as well...I have done a variety of rides all up and down the peninsula, and am beginning to do the "I always wanted to do
that" rides.
I still want info on February fog conditions along that area....cold I can handle (Canadian, eh !!)
I will be taking lots of pics as that is what I do when I explore. I write ride reports and share them...and will try and respect the notion of
"special spots" as I tend to not want some of them too public as well (rightly or wrongly).
 I was tremendously saddened last week when a friend returned from Baja and told me
that one of my favourites, Bahia San Francisquito, has seen the wrecker's ball and all the palapas have been bulldozed and that there isn't any place
to stay there any more....
I hope it isn't true, despite his insistence 
In the meantime....what about February fog habits????
I will U2U the rest of our little secret society later once I collate the offered info with my Google Earth/Almanac research so far.
I will gas up and ride, try not to crash and get back before running out of gas....the rest will be my adventure.
Don't believe everything you think....
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woody with a view
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it seems so long ago!
you're right Andy. i just like the way DEVEAU handled it.
i was really glad to meet up with, you way out there. i still hope to roll up on you with a jug of 'killya at that spot someday. last time there i
looked for blue lagoon cove, but i wasn't able to find it.... next time, always next time!
that being said, my point is spelled out above, again....
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david, that book is a rip off of something called "the surf report." guess what that's about? i got a copy when i was 17. it took me a couple of years
(!) to finally head out there. it has, word for word, the same descriptions of most spots. it doesn't give turn by turn directions. it isn't some
bible, *****************. it leaves some of the allure to the imagination.
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Ged
not much fog but the rains might be ample this winter. it'll be cold and damp and maybe windy. or not! if you are just passing thru it won't really
matter. where do you plan to overnight? GN?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
Another bit of advice for fish camps. The one medium of exchange they cant refuse is lingerie. This stuff is not readily available down there and you
would be surprised how many lobster you get.
If they have gas, they will trade for it! |
Curt: not a bad idea but how are we gonna esplain to our wives why we're taking teddys to Baja??? To trade for gas? Even SWMBO is not that
gullible.
Oh - and what the heck are the guys in the fish camps doing with this stuff????
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Go Woody!
David, why must you .......?
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Viva Mulege!
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
Ged....not much fog but the rains might be ample this winter. it'll be cold and damp and maybe windy. or not! if you are just passing thru it won't
really matter. where do you plan to overnight? GN? |
Woody, I will be riding from San Felipe with a half dozen guys on a trail from just south of Puertecitos over to around El Marmol and overnight in
Catavina. The guys will continue south by serious trail to Gonzaga and then down to a friend's in BoLA, from where they will continue south to San
Juanico before they head back up north.
I plan to explore the Catavina area for a few days before I head south to Asuncion for a few days...and maybe hook up with my friends in San Ignacio
for the trip north...we may go from San Ignacio up through Santa Marta to El Barril and north that way....
But as any good trip is, there will be many plan transitions
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
Another bit of advice for fish camps. The one medium of exchange they cant refuse is lingerie. This stuff is not readily available down there and you
would be surprised how many lobster you get.
If they have gas, they will trade for it! |
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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About secret surfing spots: I elected not to learn to surf due to the ugliness associated with such secrecy and cliques. I might vote to keep coastal
access for beach combing and environmental reasons, but I'd never stand up and vote for surfer's access if such a choice was available to me. The "I
got mine - now you keep out" is such an ugly counterpart to the Aloha spirit. Windsurfers, divers, and other sports enthusiasts don't seem to suffer
from this deficiency to nowhere near the extent of surfers.
As for DK's mile for mile (or was it km for km) road log, I just glanced and noticed it was a road log, and I plan to check it out more closely later.
If I could merely glance, then I don't see how it could be a spoiler for anybody who chooses it not to be. Myself, I prefer reading about things first
- then it feels like each attraction is that much more special. I skipped Camp Gecko for 10 years because I didn't read about it. I missed out because
I explored the BOLA area on my own.
Lay off DK, unless he is spouting non-relevant political rhetoric on the Main Topic area that is. The Off Topic is the place for that.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
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is that a jug of octane booster? |
Just a tidbit of a suggestion - for future reference - from someone formerly in the business.... the octane boosters that work the best will be
packaged in metal containers, not plastic.
Aromatics, not alcohol.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
there is a 10,000 gallon PEMEX tank at the marina now. the ? is, is there any gas in it? |
If there is gas in that tank, I hope it is a strong tank that will protect the gas for a VERY long time |
Many of the petroleum vehicles have the ability to pump the gas out of the tanks if need be. Even if water's gotten into the
tank(s), it's heavier than the gasoline and settles on the bottom, and the gas can be pumped off the top.
They would not let it go to waste, as we all know.
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Doug
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FYI - there is a small but aggressive group on this board that considers this stretch their own little area 51 and they get all worked up over it if
anyone brings it up. As far as I can tell, this region is the only place in Baja that brings possessive ethug lurkers out of the woodwork (or Southern
Ca where they all reside).
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You nailed it! It's a simple enuff concept. You spend and have spent quality time in a place special to your likes and lifestyle. When Walmart or
hoards of people descend upon a place it completely changes it's appeal, that is, for the old timers.
My "secret spot" in SoCal now boasts a Trump golf course. You can understand my angst. I used to pull 20-30 lb bugs off those reefs below there.
DK states it over and over and over "Bad roads = good people....Good roads = bad people.
What is it about his own words that contradict his philosophy or rather the one he continually quotes. That's what I don't get. Does he actually
want a place overrun or overdiscovered, overshared???
Has he ever considered that could happen? I mean really, there are plenty of very wealthy people in the world ready willy-nilly to go about spending
millions of dollars to define themselves in the form of some ostentatious development in paradise. Hey, they can prove themselves and what better
place than...er...ahem.... Baja.
There is a phase: "Too much info" and I think it applies here. Afterall, it's not OUR country to go and divulge ALL it's special places. I'd prefer
to leave that to THEM or discover for myself. We don need no steenkeen overzealous gringo trail-frickin, map makin' guide in our neighbors country.
I would resent them doing the same thing here. 
[Edited on 12-2-2009 by Sharksbaja]
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motoged
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Chill you guys....I was asking for info on an area of interest....some folks have been incredibly helpful and I appreciate that.
I didn't want a thread hijack roasting anybody....unless I start it
Take it somewhere else....I am on no one's side in particular, but some folks are pooping in my sandbox here.
I don't mind a good bashing, but please stick to my topic or ....else I'll squish you like a bug.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Sharksbaja
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So this is all new to you? I think not. But you are right amigo, sorry, not my place to take this old subject to bat.
Have a great experience Ged. Hope you can bring home that element of mystique and discovery we all seek.
[Edited on 12-2-2009 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
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well this thread cured my insomnia
one remark about road logs, I have no use for them. I can't even remember to reset my odometer when I buy gas to figure out mileage. same rig for 6
years and i can only guess at the mileage it gets
plus to use a road log and see my odometer i'd have to switch from my myopia glasses to my presbyopia glasses, wipe the dirt off the instrument
cluster, retilt the steering wheel, read the road log and odometer, and think, all while driving. where do i set the beer/coke/coffee/chips/surfstick?
and will you please stop this dog from licking my face!
not for me, in my book the people that put them together are, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,different strokes for different folks.
fill her up and go. what time is it and where's the sun? oh, that looks like an interesting road, let's see where it goes. and if it's a great break,
i've never been there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
You nailed it! It's a simple enuff concept. You spend and have spent quality time in a place special to your likes and lifestyle. When Walmart or
hoards of people descend upon a place it completely changes it's appeal, that is, for the old timers.
My "secret spot" in SoCal now boasts a Trump golf course. You can understand my angst. I used to pull 20-30 lb bugs off those reefs below there.
DK states it over and over and over "Bad roads = good people....Good roads = bad people.
What is it about his own words that contradict his philosophy or rather the one he continually quotes. That's what I don't get. Does he actually
want a place overrun or overdiscovered, overshared???
Has he ever considered that could happen? I mean really, there are plenty of very wealthy people in the world ready willy-nilly to go about spending
millions of dollars to define themselves in the form of some ostentatious development in paradise. Hey, they can prove themselves and what better
place than...er...ahem.... Baja.
There is a phase: "Too much info" and I think it applies here. Afterall, it's not OUR country to go and divulge ALL it's special places. I'd prefer
to leave that to THEM or discover for myself. We don need no steenkeen overzealous gringo trail-frickin, map makin' guide in our neighbors country.
I would resent them doing the same thing here.
[Edited on 12-2-2009 by Sharksbaja] |
There is no countradiction... Bad Roads=Good People... My road logs are of bad roads FOR good people... ie. Baja Nomads who want to drive bad roads.
NOTHING I POST here brings in people... The ROADS and their CARS bring them in. Only a tiny % of readers will go to the places I detail... As I said
before, I freely share "my" favorite beach here.. and it is still just as beautiful as always!
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carry your own gas. not too many fish camps in the area. weather will probably be mild and sunny, with rain a good possibility-although annual
rainfall in that area is under 4". however, it can flood out in a hurry if a good drencher hits. the devil winds can be real strong-50-60mph plus so
be aware of those as well. other than that just head west and follow the track. that's how my girlfriend and i did it years ago.(well, a good friend
told me where to turn off then basically said "you'll figure it out")
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
So this is all new to you? I think not. But you are right amigo, sorry, not my place to take this old subject to bat. |
El Tiburon,
No surprise and I am not really choked....just doing my middle-child peace-keeper routine.
Certainly an interesting read....
All the info has really answered the main questions...U2U's (not REALLY a secret cult) have filled in the blanks.
Gracias everyone...
Don't believe everything you think....
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Ryan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pappy
carry your own gas. not too many fish camps in the area. weather will probably be mild and sunny, with rain a good possibility-although annual
rainfall in that area is under 4". however, it can flood out in a hurry if a good drencher hits. the devil winds can be real strong-50-60mph plus so
be aware of those as well. other than that just head west and follow the track. that's how my girlfriend and i did it years ago.(well, a good friend
told me where to turn off then basically said "you'll figure it out") |
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