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Bob and Susan
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did that too
worked for 2 years
then they changed the rule
read the statement of facts
mexico doesnt count
i even asked for a special exemption
no no no
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
did that too
worked for 2 years
then they changed the rule
read the statement of facts
mexico doesnt count
i even asked for a special exemption
no no no |
Bob and Susan,
Knowing you guys I'm sure you looked into every possible solution. Thanks. Now I understand why people do the S. Dakota thing.
What is lowest possible ins coverage to meet CA DMV's requirements in order to renew vehicle every year? Any company you would recommend? I would have
to weigh this vs. cost, expense of bringing vehicle up north for smog vs. SD registration. It is getting clearer to me why people do what they do.
Alot depends on if you are close enough to border and whether it is convenient to drive car NOB. My truck is close to tip of BCS so driving NOB isn't
a feasible option.
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chernefitter
Have you discussed this move with AAA? I use them for all registration needs so call or even better go in and tell them your circumstances. Keep us
posted if you find out please. Fitter. |
The 800 person at AAA just warned me that the information will be transmittedelectronically to DMV and there will be fines from the DMV for having a
registered vehicle in CA w/o ins. The person was very unhelpful and couldn't answer any of my questions.
An individual rep in person might be more helpful but not sure what they could do. I think this is a DMV issue.
pacside
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dtbushpilot
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pacside, Should your tags expire on your CA plates I would be reluctant to drive it on the highway in BCS. There have been federal cops setting up
radar traps on the highway between Los Barilles and San Jose and when they pull you over they check for current registration and tags, especially the
gringos. I've heard a few recent stories of impoundment threats and significant mordita paid. Saw them today just South of BV, glad I wasn't speeding,
can't believe I wasn't (a first for me)....dt
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bajalou
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Check on SD. You can have a Calif address for their registration and the fees are very reasonable.
http://www.claycountysd.org/ - treasurers office
(605) 677-7123
Get the scoop from them.
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roundtuit
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Go to DMV CA on the internet and look up AFFIDAVIT OF NON-USE. That is probably your way out as it is registered and smoged The form is available to
down laod. Give one to DMV, one to your insurance company, and a copy for yourself Most insurance agents are not even aware of this form
Hope this helps your problem
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pacside
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good info dtbushpilot...thanks. i plan on having current reg and tags one way or the other.
on another point. since my truck isn't of huge value i carry mx liability insurance only. I do not think ca ins is required to make mx liab ins valid.
pacside
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karenintx
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It is true that the Federales are setting up radar traps all around the SJD & CSL area.
I too have heard stories and actually witnessed a mardita being paid to a Federale at the SJD airport. Even heard a story of one Federale telling the
person "I will run a check on you to see if you have any speeding or DUI tickets in the USA." I dought this can be done...haven't seen a computer in
one of their cars yet!
Heck Costco will tell you they can't look up your membership in the USA and their are far better orginzed than the Federales.
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pacside
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| Quote: | Originally posted by roundtuit
Go to DMV CA on the internet and look up AFFIDAVIT OF NON-USE. That is probably your way out as it is registered and smoged The form is available to
down laod. Give one to DMV, one to your insurance company, and a copy for yourself Most insurance agents are not even aware of this form
Hope this helps your problem |
Thanks roundtuit. Yes I think this form will suffice until reg expires so as not to incur DMV fines for non compliance re ins.
pacside
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Alan
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| Quote: | [quoteThe CA DMV has a "Statement of Facts" form. Some have been successful in renewing their CA registration annually by completing the form stating
truck is in mx, showing CA DMV proof of mx insurance and also stating truck will not be back in california. I will try this and let everyone know how
it goes.
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Please let me know if this is successful. I'll be leaving my Jeep in La Paz as "I've been told"
that they will exempt the smog if the vehicle is in MX. My concern was wondering if they would accept a Mx insurance company as proof of insurance.
My alternative was just going to be a absolute minimal policy from a US carrier
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LaTijereta
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Alan
[quoteThe CA DMV has a "Statement of Facts" form. Some have been successful in renewing their CA registration annually by completing the form stating
truck is in mx, showing CA DMV proof of mx insurance and also stating truck will not be back in california. I will try this and let everyone know how
it goes.
pacside |
Please let me know if this is successful. I'll be leaving my Jeep in La Paz as "I've been told"
that they will exempt the smog if the vehicle is in MX. My concern was wondering if they would accept a Mx insurance company as proof of insurance.
My alternative was just going to be a absolute minimal policy from a US carrier |
Up until this year CA allowed for Mexican Insurance as proof the vehical was out of the country..but they now require a policy for CA operation (even
though the vehical is out of state).. I made two trips to the DMV office with paperwork in hand> no luck
Going forward I am looking into the SD DMV registration to get "current tags" on the truck we keep in Loreto.
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LaTijereta
Up until this year CA allowed for Mexican Insurance as proof the vehical was out of the country..but they now require a policy for CA operation (even
though the vehical is out of state).. I made two trips to the DMV office with paperwork in hand> no luck
Going forward I am looking into the SD DMV registration to get "current tags" on the truck we keep in Loreto. |
Can you confirm if they are still exempting a smog cert for BCS? I really don't want to have to drive the Jeep from La Paz to SD
every two years. 
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LaTijereta
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The CA DMV has a "Statement of Facts" form will exempt you from smog testing..there is a box for "non operational" in CA.
No need for the drive back..
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Alan
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Thanks. Looks like if CA won't accept a Mx policy I'll just have to consider a bare minimum CA policy as part of my annual registration costs
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LaTijereta
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Check these guys out if want a simple policy for CA
http://www.wawanesa.com/
They were under $100 for the year for liability only
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mulegejim
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Not sure about the insurance issue - I leave a truck in Mulege and keep CA insurance as once in a great while I drive it up here. The last time the
smog check was due I got to talking with with a rep at AAA and was able to file a statement that the truck was in Mexico. I did not have to bring it
to CA for the smog check and was issued the registration, including the license plate tag, and was on my way. The agent at AAA told me as long as the
truck was some distance for the border, I didn't ask how far, they could issue the registration without the smog certificate - which they did.
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Bob and Susan
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jim
that was the old rule
i was in the dmv this summer and addressed this problem
mexico and nevada dont count
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
jim
that was the old rule
i was in the dmv this summer and addressed this problem
mexico and nevada dont count |
When I was there last December Mexico, Arizona and I believe Nevada did not count, however, the agent at AAA said if the truck was far enough into
Mexico they could issue the tag - previously I had just paid the reg. fee and did not get a tag because of no smog, that way there was no penalty for
late reg. I will be renewing the reg. soon so I'll post on how it goes this year.
[Edited on 12-6-2009 by mulegejim]
[Edited on 12-6-2009 by mulegejim]
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maspacifico
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I just went through the smog thing. I thought I had sent the Statement of Fact with my renewal and they sent it back saying I needed the smog cert. I
sent it back again with the form hoping I had forgotten to send it the first time. I got it back with my tags a couple weeks later. My advice is not
to talk to anyone....just send it in. How are they going to know where the car is? Unfortunately the Mexican insurance thing won't work anymore
because the DMV has to get the proof of policy sent by computer from the insuring company. That's why our beach car is sportin' the Great Faces, Great
Places plates! What a hassle.
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BajaGringo
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It's easier just keeping a Baja plated vehicle IMHO...
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