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SteveD
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Back to the original question about TJ cops stopping surfers.
When the TJ cops were really into the Mordida they would look for someone easy to shake down: Gringos in new cars headed north, cars with California
license plates, middle aged gringos not wanting the hassle or, the easiest to spot, vehicles with surf boards on the roof! (profilling?)
Most times, if the person stopped pushed back any way they would let them go. The last time I was stopped a few years ago they told me I would have
to go to the Police Station a few miles away. When I asked why not go to the one two blocks away the let me go.
I have not heard of anyone being stopped for the past couple of years. Maybe it's gotten better. What is everyone elses experience lately?
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Bajahowodd
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If there is less harassment of tourists by the TJ cops these days, it's probably because they have more important things to worry about!
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surebought
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The Poor Surfers. This is profiling Mexican style at its worst. Its from the days of the Volkswagen Bus with the Surf Boards on top. Their parents
have money. They scare easy. They are not too smart and they're always holding. Cops playing the percentages. Live the dream you guys, but don't
look the look.
In a while the smile on my face turned to plaster.
Stick around while the clown who is sick, does the trick of disaster. Neil Young from Mr Soul.
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jeremias
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Hey!!!.......they are not too smart you say?.......I resent that...lol
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jeremias
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Mojo, that sounds like a plan. How is the fishing in the BoLa area in Jan?
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The Gull
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Arm yourself to the teeth
with every kind of gun you can carry. To hell with the laws of the country. If anyone approaches you, regardless of nationality, age or possible
intent, blow them away. If you happen to catch a few of your buddies in the cross fire or nail a few street vendors in the process, just remember
that there are billions of people on Earth and the remaining people will share in the resources left behind.
I hope this bit of travel advice has been of help.
It has been brought to you by board members who like to dredge up anecdotal incidences (unconfirmed or total rumor) from decades past for which they
have no first or second hand knowledge of anything. They are the true armchair Baja-experts.
Example: just last month, we had a rash of expert opinions regarding some American who said drug dudes broke into his Playas residence, taped him up,
raped his Scandanavian girl friend, and killed her. Turned out he did the whole thing after arguing over something like housekeeping. I have heard
of four similar situations in the last 20 years, just in Baja Norte.
I have been in Baja since 1968 and owned property since 1988. I ask you...if Baja is such a hellhole, why do all these Nomads live and visit here?
Use common sense? Wish it was more common than it appears to be.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeremias
Mojo, that sounds like a plan. How is the fishing in the BoLa area in Jan? |
I was at La Gringa last early February. A couple guys showed up who had been surfing over in the 7 Sacred Secret Spots area , One guy put on his full
suit in the evening and paddled out in the bay with his spin cast rig. He caught dinner - 3 pan sized fish in about an hour with a green feather lead
head lure.
The weather was pleasant - shorts and T shirts during the day out of the wind. Water cold 3/2mm. I was there about a week. We missed the rain that was
happening up north. There was 3 days of 15-20 knot winds . winds were light the rest of the time. It blows offshore there.
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surebought
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Wow The Gull, I am afraid someone might take you seriously about carrying a gun in your car in Mexico. That was not good advice. If this is you,
you better stay home. Go through one of those soldier check points and get caught with a gun, you are going to be hating life. Keep your guns at
home. And if your that scared, stay home too.
In a while the smile on my face turned to plaster.
Stick around while the clown who is sick, does the trick of disaster. Neil Young from Mr Soul.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surebought
Wow The Gull, I am afraid someone might take you seriously about carrying a gun in your car in Mexico. That was not good advice. If this is you,
you better stay home. Go through one of those soldier check points and get caught with a gun, you are going to be hating life. Keep your guns at
home. And if your that scared, stay home too. |
One US Marine did exactly that last year, or so, tried to go through a check point with weapons. Didn't work.
Hey Surebought, a big thanks to you for telling everyone that my tongue-in-cheek "arming yourself to the teeth" advice should not be followed.
Actually, I prefer to use RPG's over large caliber guns when touring Baja.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Dave
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He's just culling the herd
| Quote: | Originally posted by surebought
Wow The Gull, I am afraid someone might take you seriously about carrying a gun in your car in Mexico. |
Dumb and dumber probably needs to stay home.
Or....maybe not. 
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I carry a concealed Beretta 92F with five loaded 15 round magazines and 300 extra rounds when I go to Mexico. Don’t you! God!
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toneart
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Yup!
| Quote: | Originally posted by surebought
Wow The Gull, I am afraid someone might take you seriously about carrying a gun in your car in Mexico. That was not good advice. If this is you,
you better stay home. Go through one of those soldier check points and get caught with a gun, you are going to be hating life. Keep your guns at
home. And if your that scared, stay home too. |
There are actually newbies, or people actually ignorant of Mexico's gun laws, or gullible people, or helplessly dumb or retarded, or... or...
terminally machos (there is such a disease that eats away the brain).  who may take Gull seriously.
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toneart
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"The man is 65 and he's getting his first Social Security check. Now with all of his lifes goals met, there is nothing left to do but move to Mexico
and drink himself to death like Richard Burton did in the John Huston Classic, The Night of the Iguana." - Surebought's signiture line
I believe Richard Burton actually did that...largely in Mexico. He and Liz had a casa in Gringo Gulch section of Puerto Vallarta. I spent lots of time
there (before retirement, SS, drinking myself to death)... (just kidding about the "drinking myself to death") in P.V. I was actually there when they
made the movie.
Anyway, here's a true story: Years later, during the 1970's, Richard and Liz pulled up in a V.W. Thing with the top down (remember those?). Liz was
driving. Richard was sleeping. She jumped out and ran into a boutique and left him there with the sun blazing down on his very red, rather bloated
face.
I stood there just staring at him. I was shocked at the change that had come over his appearance! I didn't consider it rude to stare because he was
sleeping. Suddenly he lifted his head and swiveled it to the right and opened his eyes. Now I know he had an eye for the ladies and couldn't have been
too pleased at my face being the first image on his semi-conscious, soggy brain. He gave kind of a disgusted look and then his head lolled back, his
eyes slammed shut and his head crashed against the headrest.  
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Bloated red face...Semi-conscious...Soggy brain This of course does not sound
like any of us in here now does it!
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SteveD
Back to the original question about TJ cops stopping surfers.
When the TJ cops were really into the Mordida they would look for someone easy to shake down: Gringos in new cars headed north, cars with California
license plates, middle aged gringos not wanting the hassle or, the easiest to spot, vehicles with surf boards on the roof! (profilling?)
Most times, if the person stopped pushed back any way they would let them go. The last time I was stopped a few years ago they told me I would have
to go to the Police Station a few miles away. When I asked why not go to the one two blocks away the let me go. |
A friend of mine was stopped once heading south just outside of Tijuana and once heading north just outside of Tijuana, in the same day, just to get
some surf when a nice swell had hit. No more Baja trips for him, and he was a 30 years seasoned Baja traveler.
BajaGeoff has a story about some Surf contest event coordinators that got stopped twice on the way down to San Miguel (Ensenada) and once heading
home, no more Baja they said...
I have not heard of anyone being stopped for the past couple of years. Maybe it's gotten better. What is everyone elses experience lately?
[Edited on 12-15-2009 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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woody with a view
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no problems.... knock on me!!!
i'm lying, it is anarchy down there. why do you people keep subjecting yourselves to murder and mayhem? for a couple of crowded waves? you can find
those at home!!!!!
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jeremias
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cmon, don't try to scare me and save it all for yourself.
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The Gull
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Lots of weapons is the only answer.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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mojo_norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
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what weapons would you suggest ?
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Woooosh
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Las Vegas resorts are shutting down room towers too. Same result from two different causes. Everything goes in cycles- even madness.
I'd really like there to be more positive news about Baja retirement. No one wants the value of their retirement homes to stay depressed- on either
side of the border. Mexicans are very resilient. The stores, clubs and hotels may close for a while, but they'll wait out the violence (getting much
worse, not better IMHO-right now) and come back. These people don't have mortgages and college funds to worry about. They enjoy the good life when
they have it and laugh and don't worry about things too much when they don't. They all understand poverty and it's no big deal.
Of course anything you can do to make their holiday brighter goes a long way. You'd be surprised how much difference $20 tip means to a family down
here right now.
[Edited on 12-17-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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