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absinvestor
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puffers
I have read a couple of comments about puffers but I don't know what they are. We travel with a couple of dogs and I understand that puffers make dogs
sick etc. We will be spending two or three months on both the Sea of Cortez side and the Pacific Ocean side of Baja Norte and Baja Sur. What are
puffers and do dogs have to eat them to get sick? Thanks Ron
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Here is a puffer fish. When they get frightened they puff up and the spines point out to protect it, though in many cases it seems the puffing causes
the fish to be unable to swim and the wave action forces it on to shore where it it poses risks to beach walers and dogs. Teach your dogs to leave it
alone and pick them up when you find them on the beach.
Apparently the puffer is poisonous yet also parts are edible and it is a fine dilicacy in Japan. There are many varieties and its possible they will
become farm fish as there is edible meat.
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They look like a ****** bag with spikes! You will have no trouble in identifying this little fish, usually about a foot long, a foot around and very
prickly. They wash up dead on many beaches, and the spines are poisonous, so watch your puppies!
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absinvestor
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Thanks. I didn't see any when we lived on the Pacific Ocean side of Baja Norte so I'm guessing they like the warmer water. I appreciate the info. Ron
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I have heard that if some or certain internal organs are eaten, the dog will expire within 90 mins. Paulina can verify this.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by absinvestor
Thanks. I didn't see any when we lived on the Pacific Ocean side of Baja Norte so I'm guessing they like the warmer water. I appreciate the info. Ron
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There are some without spines in the cold Pacific waters of Baja Norte, I have caught several. Tossed them all
back.
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Not all puffers have spines. In fact the kind that have killed the dogs here have no spines but have a distinctive shape. The bad ones here are only
3" to 5" and have a somewhat purple coloring and are slimy. Of what I have been told it is their spleen that is toxic and once broken any part of the
puffer can be fatal. Any one with info should chime in here because it is important for us dog lovers to be informed.
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People in Puerto Penasco eat the things all the time. Fry em up as fish tacos. I suppose like the chefs in Japan they are carefull to cut out all the
more toxic parts like the internal viscera ,skin etc. Even so i would not be game to try em although I have heard that the flesh is tastey. Do a web
search on the area and the practice of eating the fish.
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We always carry hydrogen peroxide for this. Force some down your dogs throat and he/she will throw up.
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Actually the fish pictured is the porcupine fish commonly found on the Baja beaches. It is related to the puffers, which do not have the heavy
spines. The ovaries and liver are very toxic. They are easy to catch when diving as they rely on their spines for protection and will swell up
(balloon like). They fill with water or even air when held above the water. Air filled ones float upside down on the surface and are helpless. I
have been told that many found on the beaches were caught in shrimp nets, therefore filled with air, then dumped into the sea, floating into shore.
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Myself and other investigators ate Puffer Fish Sashimi once while at a Japanese party on Okinawa Japan back in 1985. After we ate it, our Japanese
host gave us a broad smile and said "Guess what" Puffer fish is deadly if not prepared by a trained person. Oh thanks a-lot!
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We've eaten it both on the grill and in ceviche. Delicious. To clean it correctly you make a T cut across the neck and down the belly. The skin and
insides should come off/out whole...in one piece...and what remains is lots of white meat that tastes better than lobster. IMHO
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My brother and sister in law were walking their dog on the beach in Baja norte and the dog ate a dead puffer that had washed up on the beach. They
rushed the dog home and to the vet. After two weeks in the pet hospital and $13,000.00 the dog made it. The only lasting affect was blindness in one
eye.
We have eaten fugu that was served to us by our favorite sushi chef. It was not that tasty but it was fun to try.
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Pufferfish = Fugu (Maybe More Than You Want to Know)
"Fugu is the Japanese word for pufferfish and is also a Japanese dish prepared from the meat of pufferfish (normally species of Takifugu,
Lagocephalus, or Sphoeroides) or porcupinefish of the genus Diodon. Because pufferfish is lethally poisonous if prepared incorrectly, fugu has become
one of the most celebrated and notorious dishes in Japanese cuisine."
"Fugu contains lethal amounts of the poison tetrodotoxin in the organs, especially the liver and ovaries, and also the skin. The poison, a sodium
channel blocker, paralyzes the muscles while the victim stays fully conscious, and eventually dies from asphyxiation. Currently, there is no known
antidote, and the standard medical approach is to try to support the respiratory and circulatory system until the poison wears off."
"As of 2008, advances in fugu research and farming have allowed some farmers to mass produce non-toxic fugu. Researchers surmised that fugu's
tetrodotoxin came from eating other animals that had the tetrodotoxin-laden bacteria, and developed immunity over time. Many farmers now are producing
'poison-free' fugu by keeping the fugu away from tetrodotoxin-laden bacteria. Usuki, a town in Ōita Prefecture, became famous for selling
non-poisonous fugu. No one has been poisoned eating it"
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Be very careful about eating any Puffers in Baja,
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DO NOT MESS WITH IT !!!
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Lots of these around. I know people who eat them.
Some of the internal organs are very poisonous, especially the liver. And the skin can reportedly kill you too.
Puffers are the most common fish found washed up on the shore, hence the potential danger to dogs.
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Once we were camping at Playa Escondidia, and I found one washed up on the beach. I had a fire going in front of the palapa, and just for fun I put
the puffer on the grill. I got some pretty interesting reactions from people walking by.
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To my knowledge the dangerous "fugu" fish is the one shown in Don Alley's post. I have never heard anyone say that the porcupine fish in gnukid's
post is toxic/dangerous although I can't imagine anyone would eat one. Speaking of dangerous fish, parrotfish commonly carry ciguatera but are often
eaten. Like most grazers their flesh is delicious (think lobster) but it comes with a risk.
carpe diem!
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How could anyone eat something so cute?
carpe diem!
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