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k-rico
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New San Ysidro Border Crossing!!
Construction begins at San Diego border crossing
(AP) – 17 hours ago
SAN DIEGO — The federal government has begun construction to replace the nation's busiest crossing.
The General Services Administration on Thursday detailed its $577 million plan to demolish the 30-year-old San Ysidro port of entry in San Diego for a
new crossing at the same site by September 2015.
Authorities say it will sharply reduce waiting times for motorists crossing the border from Tijuana, Mexico. The 50,000 vehicles that enter San Diego
daily clog Tijuana roads during delays often as long as two hours.
California-bound lanes will grow to 30 from 24, and each lane will have two inspection booths instead of one.
Construction of a new pedestrian bridge that crosses Interstate 5 begins this month and is expected to be finished by June 2011.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVP23FZmGY...
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DENNIS
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Excellent. Of course, it's already obsolete but, it will help.
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surfer jim
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Keep the existing crossing and build the new one nearby.
2015 is five years away....I can't wait.
[Edited on 12-18-2009 by surfer jim]
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Way way back in time... 1970's, they proposed a second crossing near the ocean (Bull ring by-the-sea to Imperial Beach) which would have been great
for all of us going south, beyond Tijuana or returning home from south of Tijuana... all so we could avoid any city traffic.
Instead the built the second crossing to the east, at Otay... the wrong direction for everyone coming north on Hwy. 1! The Blvd. 2000 finally makes
Otay a good crossing, but still adds miles over a better crossing location near the coast.
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PlayasMark
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What a novel idea, to have two inspection booths per lane instead of one! That might even obviate the need for a massive, disruptive rebuild, which is
sure to fall behind schedule. As it is, I've *never* seen more than 20 of the 24 lanes in use. That can be infuriating after a long, unnecessary
delay at that hellish place. I believe the main problem is NOT that resources and infrastructure are lacking; what's lacking are channels of
accountability to insure the deployment of common sense. When there's a long wait at the pedestrian crossing, one invariably finds that only a small
part of the staff is working the booths, while a larger part is standing around doing nothing. There are usually 4 people manning the x-ray scanner.
It's often noted that the border delay costs the region $5 billion/year -- far, far more than the cost of operating that port.
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DENNIS
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Welcome to BajaNomad, Mark. You brought some good points with you.
Personally, I think the Customs people use heavy traffic and back-ups as a tool. If they create additional stress to a crossing criminal, he would be
more prone to exibit discomfort and earn a trip to Secondary.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by PlayasMark
When there's a long wait at the pedestrian crossing, one invariably finds that only a small part of the staff is working the booths, while a larger
part is standing around doing nothing. |
Sounds like the Post Office or the DMV.....
Government conspiracy connection? Hmmmm. 
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Keep the existing one one and build the new one nearby.
2015 is five years away....I can't wait. |
For the life of me I can't think of a reason why they don't put a border crossing at Playas de Tijuana - so you could directly access the toll road
and skip downtown TJ completely. It isn't like the environment could be harmed any more there at this point.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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tjBill
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Now the problem is entering Mexico. There are only 7 seven lanes and no Sentri.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Of course, it's already obsolete. |
Indeed. By 2015 it'll be 5 times more obsolete.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Keep the existing one one and build the new one nearby.
2015 is five years away....I can't wait. |
For the life of me I can't think of a reason why they don't put a border crossing at Playas de Tijuana - so you could directly access the toll road
and skip downtown TJ completely. It isn't like the environment could be harmed any more there at this point. |
No question the more crossing lanes the better. A smaller crossing at the coast would be great. I say smaller because you don't want to draw from the
main population centers to the east where I think most of the traffic comes from. Then the whole area at the end of the toll road would be jammed up.
The Otay crossing was a good idea and I think needed more because that's where the population is growing the most and there's space to handle trucks
(true?). I never use Otay.
Mexican citizens being able to get to work in San Diego everyday and other commercial considerations are probably more important than travelers being
able to get home quick.
Maybe a west crossing will happen. The federal gov recently trumped the environmentalists with the wall construction, so that's a good precedent. Why
not add a freeway extension that connects to I-5 and a border plaza at the beach?
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Now the problem is entering Mexico. There are only 7 seven lanes and no Sentri. |
During afternoon/evening weekday rush hours approach using I-5 and stay in the left lane. It fans out to two inspection lanes.
At least that is what it looked like to me last night. I came south at 7:30 PM using the left lanes of I-805. 40 minute wait. It sure looked like the
left lane of I-5 was moving faster. I eventually barged my way over to it.
Any frequent border crossing nomads think the same?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Maybe a west crossing will happen. The federal gov recently trumped the environmentalists with the wall construction, so that's a good precedent. Why
not add a freeway extension that connects to I-5 and a border plaza at the beach? |
The "trump was stop people from crossing not to help them!!!
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tjBill
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Now the problem is entering Mexico. There are only 7 seven lanes and no Sentri. |
During afternoon/evening weekday rush hours approach using I-5 and stay in the left lane. It fans out to two inspection lanes.
At least that is what it looked like to me last night. I came south at 7:30 PM using the left lanes of I-805. 40 minute wait. It sure looked like the
left lane of I-5 was moving faster. I eventually barged my way over to it.
Any frequent border crossing nomads think the same? |
Yes, if all seven lanes are open the left goes the quickest.
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Why don't they just "upgrade" all the tunnels they have found for border crossing to relieve conjestion. Heck...there's probably a group right now
building a whole set of "multi-lane" tunnels from Mex side to US side. Let's just wait 'till their almost done, suddenly "discover" the whole
operation, waive all the eco issues and just start using it as the 2nd crossing? Saves alot of $'s.
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El Faro...you are a genius
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Welcome to BajaNomad, Mark. You brought some good points with you.
Personally, I think the Customs people use heavy traffic and back-ups as a tool. If they create additional stress to a crossing criminal, he would be
more prone to exibit discomfort and earn a trip to Secondary. |
There's little doubt that is someone is trying to smuggle someone or something, sitting in line for a long time is going to raise their anxiety level.
As for the idea of a new crossing near the beach, wouldn't the California Coastal Commission have final say over at least a portion of that concept?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
There's little doubt that is someone is trying to smuggle someone or something, sitting in line for a long time is going to raise their anxiety level.
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Yeah...Everybody has heard some of their stupid, senseless questions like, "Where do you live" or whatever. They don't really care where you live.
They just want to hear how you answer the question. If you show any anxiety, they feel you may be ready for a closer look.
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I crossed ar 4:30 AM yesterday. No problem
A friend crossed 3 days ago with 8 L-16 batteries and patio furniture and declared them and was told to go through. How lucky is that?
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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DENNIS
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I'm hearing a lot that cars are being pulled over, piled high with shopping stuff, and told to go ahead.
Christmas spirit, maybe?
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