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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
i have ridden bikes all my life, so don't need to be told that people in vehicles drive too fast for conditions. you should slow down so you are not
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Please post the next date and location when you get on a bike and go on road for cars. I'll be there.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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surfer jim
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On my last trip down before Xmas I saw the bicycle family heading south about 10 miles past El Rosario. This is where the road is twisting through the
mountains. It was raining and windy as we went by and then I saw the last bike had 3 people on it .....and in back was a kid about 10 years old. Glad
to hear they made it further down.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Not up on Mexico law, but in California a law applies to ALL vehicles that states if you are holding up more than (I'm guessing here) 5 vehicles, then
you are required to PULL OVER and let them pass. That law has been around for many, many years. Tho it seldom is enforced, it is a citeable
offense, and I have seen it enforced at least once in my long driving life.
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The law is five and I've seen it enforced many times. I frequently drive 74 from Temecula to Palm Desert and it's usually thick with cops. On several
occasions (twice in just the last three months), I've witnessed them stopping holdup drivers.
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monoloco
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It may be perfectly legal but that will be of little consequence when they are run over by an 18 wheeler.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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When I take the Ortega Highway I speed right along with the rest of them around those DANGEROUS CURVES. There are pullouts but I would rather speed
than use them. I think it is a triple fine area. If there are any cyclists on that stretch of the road they will be bumped over the edge into a 500
foot ravine! Accidentally of course!
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BajaGringo
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I was riding in the passenger seat with a friend driving in Venezuela years ago when we came up to a small group on bikes taking up the road with the
trailing car proving interference. My friend kept his patience for about 3 or 4 minutes until traffic allowed and then simply pulled around the group,
in front of the bikes and then slowed down to a crawl. When the bikes tried to pass he sped up and then once the bikes were behind he would slow down
again. This game went on for about 10 minutes until a traffic cop pulled us all over. When the stories were told the cop ordered the bikes to remain
on the side of the road or he would confiscate the bikes and they would pay a fine to recover them.
We were given a tongue lashing and laughed about it for the rest of the day.
Anyone who does this on bikes and not involved in an sanctioned / organized events are jerks IMHO...
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DENNIS
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It's all arrogant nonsense. What's next? Do they take their one year old kid out on the road and teach him to ride a tricycle while the marooon
father rides interference with the Chevy?
Some of these gawwdam people think they are above the cooperation that is required to make society work smoothly.
That irritates me no end.
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The Gull
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Narco Target Practice
I think the drug lords should be using them for the right reason, roadside target practice from a speeding car. Seems like I always hear about people
being gunned down by 3-4 dudes who stop their black SUV's and then have to walk over and waste someone.
Stop it! What ever happened to the skill of drive-by shootings in Baja? The US has them all the time. They date back to at least the time of the
Old West on horses and wagons and then upgraded to cars and trucks in the Roaring 20's.
Practice Practice Practice.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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k-rico
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I've been watching this thread because bicyclists on narrow, high speed, two lane roads with no shoulders is sooooooo outrageous.
THEY CHOOSE TO CREATE A ROAD HAZARD
The first time I saw this in baja I was amazed at how anybody can be so stupid. But each year there are more of them. And now they have blocker cars.
That just makes matters worse.
Maybe some drunk local dudes in old Hondas with stove pipe exhausts and purple tinted windows will get rid of some beer bottles at the appropriate
time. Perhaps for a tip.
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Debra
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We can freak out when we run into some idiot riding a bike while we are coming around a curve (that fear has taken years off my life, been there, done
that!)
I don't want anyone to be hurt! Not my family or the people on the bike, it just seems to me that if you can't do the speed limit, you shouldn't be
on the road  especially Mex 1, we all know just how bad it can be, and to
have babies in a tow thingy is just plain stupid, they will be the first to be hit............ COME ON PEOPLE, get a GRIP!!!!
Mean people suck!
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k-rico
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From Fred Metcalf's website:
Basic Arithmetic of the Baja Highway
Width of the pavement: 19 feet
Width of the shoulder: 0 feet
Width of a truck/bus/RV: 8 feet
Added width for mirrors: 1 foot
Width used by two passing trucks/etc: 18 feet
Safety separation used by
two passing trucks/etc: 1 foot
Room left for a bicycler: 0 feet
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norte
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This is where the freedom to do whatever you want to do ends
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Debra
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k-rico.........just to add to your good info.
Mex 1 lanes are 9ft. no shoulder, many spots have no guardrails with a 300ft. drop............. US lanes are 12ft. with shoulders and guardrails. I
apoligize to the person that posted the pic. showing just how many inchs that that semi had left in the lane (thank you)...everytime I hear a "newbie"
ask questions about the hwy. I just want to drive with them to protect them, I'm a "mom" and I worry alot......but, I'm sorry, when I hear about bikes
and babies on the hwy. It just gets my blood boiling!
Mean people suck!
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Woooosh
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I've been stuck behind slow pokes many times. On a long haul- we would pull over and take a rest break before we let that ruin a beautiful drive.
But if you really have to get to "Point B"by dark it's hard to relax and take it.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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chernefitter
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maybe he was an ambulance chaser?? .well he is broke now, lost his license to practice.....stupid mistake on his part i guess.
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Dave
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Do no harm
| Quote: | Originally posted by chernefitter
lost his license to practice. |
Me thinks he might have violated the Hippocratic Oath.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
i have ridden bikes all my life, so don't need to be told that people in vehicles drive too fast for conditions. you should slow down so you are not
a hazard to other vehicles on the road. |
Please post the next date and location when you get on a bike and go on road for cars. I'll be there. |
all you nomads are so predictable -- i hope i never get old and cranky like y'all
gull, dennis: bring it on!
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Debra
it just seems to me that if you can't do the speed limit, you shouldn't be on the road |
first you need to ban the slow poke retirees, ban the trucks, ban the RVs, ban the cows, ban the busses, ban the poor mexicans driving old jalopies,
ban those damn unleashed dogs, ban the potholes,... then you can ban the bikes -- don't those slow pokes know that cranky, old, overweight gringos
gotta get somewhere fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bajaboy
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This scares me more than a cyclist
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
of course it is legal. only a gringo could ask such a question. |
It follows your logic that it would be legal to pile high a pickup with plants and have your own personal 5MPH Rose Parade down a busy one lane road.
How ridiculous, only for the sake of arguement, can you be.
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