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[*] posted on 1-10-2010 at 10:29 AM
New "FMM" Visa available soon


According to a front-page article in the January 4, 2010 Gringo Gazette, Mexico is about to do away with the FMT tourist visa (the standard visa you get when arriving by plane for short stays) in favor of a new FMM visa that will be automatically issued for 180 days. The new visa will be issued to a broad range of visitor types, including tourists, business people, film crews and students, to name just a few. The new visa apparently has far fewer restrictions attached to it and is designed increase the flow of tourists and foreign investors into Mexico. It should become available very soon - GG goes out on a limb and says, "in a few days."

[Edited on 1-10-2010 by AncientDigitalDude]




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[*] posted on 1-10-2010 at 07:11 PM


It will be interesting to see what happens. The FMT already has so few restrictions on it. Many of the restrictions are not even enforced. I have a neighbor who lived in year round in Guadalajara on an FMT. She would just take a bus to the border every six months and get a new one.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2010 at 07:21 PM


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The new visa will be issued to a broad range of visitor types, including tourists, business people, film crews and students, to name just a few.



A working visa as well? Interesting.
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[*] posted on 1-10-2010 at 07:23 PM


It would be nice if they work for flights into Mexico. We have to buy a new one each flight no matter how recent. (Depending on the agent of course).



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[*] posted on 1-10-2010 at 11:46 PM


Did the Gringo Gazette cite a source for their story?

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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 08:28 AM


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I have a neighbor who lived in year round in Guadalajara on an FMT. She would just take a bus to the border every six months and get a new one.


"Also the FMM tourist card is said to close a loophole that allowed tourists to exit Mexico, turn right around and re-enter with a new card. The FMM card will limit to 180 the number of days that a tourist can stay in Mexico in a 365 day period."

http://www.rversonline.org/10Update.html

second paragraph.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 08:30 AM


anyone wanna bet this will not happen this decade?



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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 08:37 AM


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anyone wanna bet this will not happen this decade?


Why do you say that?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:04 PM


Not unlike the original post, the link provided by k-rico still manages to cloak this whole thing in rumor and speculation.

I know not the source being cited, but I do find it interesting that as far as the GG quote goes, it mentions encouraging foreign investors. Maybe go out on a limb that perhaps it may be legal to purchase property with this new visa? In any event, it seems to me that with so many snowbirds that spend half a year South of the Border, this would be a good thing.

As for potential delay in implementation, face it. Unless they expect immense delays in processing departures, this thing will have to be a readable card of some sort that can easily be swiped.. Imagine having the guy at the counter in San Ysidro making cards while you wait??
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:10 PM


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Maybe go out on a limb that perhaps it may be legal to purchase property with this new visa?


You don't need a visa to purchase property in Mexico. I know folks who have purchased property that never set foot in the country...Never will. Living here is a different matter.




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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:12 PM


You saying one can get a fideicomiso on a tourist visa?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:18 PM


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this thing will have to be a readable card of some sort that can easily be swiped


Why?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:32 PM


My understanding is that the new visa will allow 180 days worth of stay within a 365 day period, regardless of the number of exits and entries. So, upon exit, there needs to be a debit made for the time used. Can you imagine the hassle if everyone had to go into an office and have an agent access their file to enter the debit? Not to mention that any debiting process would almost necessarily have to occur on the Mexican side of the border. Card readers could easily be installed between the lanes at the crossings.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:38 PM


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You saying one can get a fideicomiso on a tourist visa?


Know of folks who have. Also personally know of several foreign corporations who have fideicomisos. No FMT, FM3's...Nada.




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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:44 PM


Migratory cards are being planned and distributed worldwide, as this has been worked on for more than a decade with a global standard. Migration will increase and these cards will allow more workers to pass borders and work. There is a standard data model for these cards as well. The cards being issued in India and throughout the world will have rfid chips as well so that all your movements will be catalogued in a standard database and available internationally. Its apparently quite a huge, horrific and insidious global plan being implemented worldwide.

Here are two articles by Nathan Alonby about Migratory ID cards and migration both historical and what you are seeing being implemented in 2010.

Here's recent interview with researcher Nathan Alonby.

The International format for this process and standard is called the ICA 09303 part 3 standard. Its an UN international coordinated program to implement a international data sharing standard expected to be issued to billions of people.

Perhaps its worth considering why this might or might not be a good thing.

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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 12:57 PM


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My understanding is that the new visa will allow 180 days worth of stay within a 365 day period, regardless of the number of exits and entries......


According to that link I provided, you're right. Hmmm, I understand the need for swiping.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 01:05 PM


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My understanding is that the new visa will allow 180 days worth of stay within a 365 day period, regardless of the number of exits and entries......


It will be interesting to see what exemptions are made for day travelers. I'm sure Tijuana would be concerned.




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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 01:09 PM


Don't know that it would apply to the Border Zone. As FM-T is no required now. Biggest obstacle for Tijuana and Tourism right now is violent crime and the US passport requirement.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 01:09 PM


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It will be interesting to see what exemptions are made for day travelers. I'm sure Tijuana would be concerned.



Wouldn't it still be the Free Zone? Or, are they doing away with that?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2010 at 01:10 PM


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Biggest obstacle for Tijuana and Tourism right now is violent crime and the US passport requirement.


Not to mention the economy.
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