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bajalou
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"IMO, unless the end goal is citizenship an FM2 is a waste of time and money. "
Don't know about that, I haven't had to pay anything in the last 5 years so I think I'm money ahead now.
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longlegsinlapaz
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CortezBlue, I'm unclear exactly which part of Bob and Susan's statement you feel isn't true.
According to the Immigration office in La Paz, all of it is accurate today. You can switch from FM3 to FM2 after 2 years. I know people who have
done it....as part of the normal process currently in place, not through any extraordinary finagling.
Also when I went from FM3 to FM2 in December, I was told I could apply for Immigrado OR Naturalization after 2 years on FM2....rather
than the 5 year requirement frequently reported here.
What they will not allow is a leap from FM3 straight to Immigrado. I'd been on FM3 for 10 years, so I asked whether actual full-time residency in
country would make it possible to forgo the FM2 step & was told "No, but you can apply for Immigrado after 2 years on FM2." At which time,
renewals & annual fees become a thing of the past.
Immigrado = no more annual renewals/fees for visa
Naturalization = no more annual renewals/fees for visa AND you can pay (probably big bucks) to cancel fideicomiso & hold title in your hot little
hand versus the banks.
k-rico, if your head can't sift through any more facts/I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend/rumors....it's always good to confirm
current possibilities with a reputable lawyer.
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comitan
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And that's the straight POOP11111111
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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longlegsinlapaz
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WHICH one of the above Comitan?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
IMO, unless the end goal is citizenship an FM2 is a waste of time and money. |
IMO, it's all a waste of time. Anyway, to be here legally, you have to have something and if you live in your own house, it's difficult to sell
yourself as a tourist.
So, if you don't want to graduate to FM2, you still have to pay yearly for the FM3.
In my opinion, both the 3 and the 2 are just necessary steps to and end, Inmigrado. The time goes by anyway and it's in my budget so I play the game.
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comitan
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Which one has long legs!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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longlegsinlapaz
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Also when I went from FM3 to FM2 in December, I was told I could apply for Immigrado OR Naturalization after 2 years on FM2....rather
than the 5 year requirement frequently reported here.
What they will not allow is a leap from FM3 straight to Immigrado. I'd been on FM3 for 10 years, so I asked whether actual full-time residency in
country would make it possible to forgo the FM2 step & was told "No, but you can apply for Immigrado after 2 years on FM2." At which time,
renewals & annual fees become a thing of the past.
Immigrado = no more annual renewals/fees for visa
Naturalization = no more annual renewals/fees for visa AND you can pay (probably big bucks) to cancel fideicomiso & hold title in your hot little
hand versus the banks. |
Again, thanks for the info. The "Immigrado" status is something that is new to me. I'll have to read more about that.
Sounds like it is comparable to the US "permanent resident" or "resident alien" status.
Is there a name/designation for the document Immigrados possess?
Also, since I'm married to a citizen, there may be some rules that don't apply otherwise.
Time to lawyer up.
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bajalou
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You receive a letter authorizing your Imigrado status from Mexico City Immigration. Also, your FM2 is stamped and endorsed that you have this status.
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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BajaBruceFan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Imigrado status also imposes time limitations for being "out of country". |
I've never heard that. I always thought the rewards for going through the process were less restrictions.
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Impossible to enforce 'up north'. Technically, with an FM2 you are required to check in/out but since they don't check at land borders no one does. I
once presented my FM2 at customs when declaring. Got a lecture. I'll never do that again.
IMO, unless the end goal is citizenship an FM2 is a waste of time and money. |
Does anyone know what the time limitations are for being out of country on an FM2?
And , if one drove north across the border on an FM2 without 'checking out', would problems arise if one were fly back into Mexico without having the
FM2 exit stamp?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Also, since I'm married to a citizen, there may be some rules that don't apply otherwise.
Time to lawyer up. |
She'll let you know about those rules as she sees fit. Keep that lawyer retained.
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other restrictions?
When we talked to immigration in San Felipe they said there were also requirements that applied to vehicle licenses, vehicle to have Mexican plates,
so then there was the cost of importation.
If you live there, FM2 is probably cheaper way in long run. If you annually come and go to the states as we do it seemed much easier to comply with
rules and not much more expensive to keep with FM3.
It is only a matter of time until Mexico border is computerized like US. the US certainly knows when you come back into the states. Mexico will
eventually get to the same level of knowledge
Ron San Felipe Oct, Nov. Feb. Mar. April. remainder in Juneau Ak
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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruceFan
And , if one drove north across the border on an FM2 without 'checking out', would problems arise if one were fly back into Mexico without having the
FM2 exit stamp? |
Yes, that is a problem! I had it....ONCE! The only time it became an issue was when I went to renew my FM3 & the number of departure stamps
didn't equal the number of entry stamps. Thankfully I still had my 1-way airline ticket to back up the fact I drove my RV back up to Oregon &
flew home. It is a big deal to Immigration....they wouldn't begin renewal process until the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
Because they automatically stamp it when you fly, you need to make the efforts to get a corresponding stamp to balance entries & exits when you
fly/drive on one trip.
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Bajahowodd
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Bureaucrats! Just have to wonder what were the marching orders. Just seems to me that when a Mexican "official" is confronted with documents from a US
ex-pat, or tourist, they would err on the side of understanding that someone from the US is likely to bring dinero and jobs to them.
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