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desandmarla
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Fresh Road News
That is "NOT" what Enrique told us. He said the Federales said they were going to start letting trucks and high profile vehicles through BUT ONLY
assisted by a grader or tractor of some kind. I said well none of us want our rigs drug through mud by a tractor so he said well let's see how it
improves tomorrow. He is giving us updates all through the day but feels that when the buses start to flow we are safe to go. Enrique also feels
that the first day is going to be gridlocked both ways so let's hunker down another day and wait for reports on how they are doing tomorrow.
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tripledigitken
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The permanent repairs will probably not address the omission of properly placed Rip Rap at the bridge abutments. Without it the abutment will sustain
major erosion damage again. The Bridge itself (El Rosario) looks to have held, it is the approach which appears to have been damaged. With properly
placed Concreted Rip Rap at the bridge abutments, 2 of the bridges I saw pictures of would still be open. I have seen this many times in the past in
Baja.
It's too bad that they "poor boy" that portion of the road construction, after spending all the money on the bridge itself.
Ken
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BajaCactus
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El Rosario bridge...Jan 25, 2010 / 1:50pm
El Rosario bridge situation has improved in the last hour... for the whole day a lot of dirt has been placed on the pass along the river bed in El
Rosario bridge, and now, small vehicles can pass also... with some care and difficulty in the parts where is sandy but they are going through... the
water levels have dropped substantially now. Only semi's are being held on the south side (because of the weight) until the sandy areas of the river
bed can be reinforced with more dry dirt... so they can cross on their own... they believe within a couple of hrs. semi's will be able to do so.
I just sent someone from our staff at BajaCactus to go and take some pictures to post them for you here... I will upload them as soon as they return
from the bridge area.
Now... we do not work at the Federal Police... we do not know what their "official" story is... we are only reporting what we are seeing... the San
Vicente and Col. Guerrero reports were also described to us by friends we called over the phone... we are just simple people who are actually standing
right next to the damage areas, looking at what is going on and talking to some of the repair crews.
I will get back soon with the pictures.
Antonio Munoz
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[Edited on 1-25-2010 by BajaCactus]
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David K
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Thank you amigo Antonio!
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mcquerry
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Thank You Baja Catus
We are here in Mulege and have heard numerous stories. One person told us 5 bridges are gone and they are crossing people in baskets by ropes. Glad
to hear the real story from some one who is there. We are leaving tomorrow morning but will continue to read the posts until we our out of range.
THANKS AGAIN
\"anything worth knowing can be discovered in a bar in Mexico..\"
JJ. Williams
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BajaCactus
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El Rosario bridge pictures...
Here are the pictures I promised... small vehicles can now cross on their own...
San Vicente and Col. Guerrero are reporting the same situation... with the advantage that both are now about to finish making a temporary workable
bridge, capable of supporting all kind of vehicles.
Antonio Munoz
BajaCactus
[Edited on 1-25-2010 by BajaCactus]
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BajaCactus
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Loaded trucks working...
BajaCactus
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desandmarla
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El Rosario
Thanks so much Antonio, can't wait to see the pics!! And thanks for all the time you have spent keeping us informed. Your posts are very factual and
we are excited every time we get one! Have you made it home yet??
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BajaCactus
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You can see the level of the water now on this photo.
BajaCactus
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JESSE
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So, any wild guess when the road will open? i have a frozen venison carcass from Lupe Perez on one of those trucks, and a bunch of cases of wine.
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BajaCactus
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Open road... Jan 25, 2010 / 3:00pm
San Vicente is reporting they will have a fully functional temporary bridge by tonight.
Col. Guerrero is reporting the same... that they will have a fully functional temporary bridge by tonight.
El Rosario reports it will have a passable road on the river bed within the next 3 hrs.
Antonio Munoz
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satmike
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When the dosers are done there send them out the San Carlos road. It is passable but barely ...
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fishbuck
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Anybody got any word from TonyC?
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Bajahowodd
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Let's just hope that the looming storm is weak and doesn't put this whole recovery effort back to square one.
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nickmol
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I just posted a picture of bridge progress at Vicente Guerrero as of about noon on Monday.
4 wheel drives are crossing the river about 1 mile downstream of the bridge.
http://picasaweb.google.com/NMolatore/VGMondayJan25#54308228...
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Juan del Rio
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January 25th 4:00 pm PST
Thanks for the updates Antonio. I just spoke with my friend who was caught in the storm/road situation since Friday evening. He drove this morning
from Rice and Beans/San Ignacio to San Quintin and stopped to get gas at your place about two hours ago. He was able to cross the El Rosario river on
his own (driving an Xterra) and is now staying in San Quintin for the evening waiting for the the waters to receed further North. I passed on your
update to him...it was very much appreciated.
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David K
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Viva Baja Nomads!
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Estrella
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Really many thank yous from those of us who were traveling when all this started-we have made it to Ensenada and will hit the road south in the
morning and we will be prepared thanks to everyone who has posted. As noted it will be another adventure. A BIG thanks to those whose very livlihoods
depend on HWY 1 being open and have worked so hard to make it passable -THANK YOU!
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BajaGringo
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Cristina and I drove San Quintin - Tijuana yesterday and back today. Not too difficult with a 4X4. There are tractors available if you need it...
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jdowning
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People Power
Thanks to Antonio and all the others who have provided this running report on progress. We are patiently waiting for things to settle down before
heading down for our vacation. The roads should be clear for essential supplies/services first.
But I have to say how impressed I am, again, of how so many of the people of Mexico react to situations like this. They don't just sit around and wait
for the Government to take care of them and then complain when the response isn't perfect. They get into action and take care of things theirselves.
The farmers volunteering machinery, fuel, and manpower to get the bridge abutments rebuilt, supplying tractors so people can cross riverbeds, is so
remarkable.
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