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wessongroup
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Hell this just caused an earthquake
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caboclassof83
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Suppose the northern third of the road is all washed out again like two weeks ago and I come in at Santa Rosalia and ride north to the first
roadblock?
Do you guys have a big problem with that too?
Suppose that there's no gasoline at all by the time I get there?
Is it ok in that event then?
(I guess as long as you don't know that I walked right onto the first ferry, right?)
I'm really trying here guys, but YOU are the ones trying to get over for something that you are not legally entitled to in a foreign country, you are
the problem.
If you even sprout enough balls, make sure that you don't go to Columbia with your rigs because they shut down the entire Bogota expressway system
down for bikes every Sunday now.
http://www.streetfilms.org/ciclovia/
I bet you would just about pop a gasket if you drove up into the back of that event low on liquor that weekend?
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Donjulio
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And lawyers wonder why they have a bad reputation.
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"I'm really trying here guys, but YOU are the ones trying to get over for something that you are not legally entitled to in a foreign country, you are
the problem."
This just about sums it up - ignorant a____ole. What kind of bike do you ride? What color is your shiny, spandex bike outfit? I'll keep an eye out
for you on Mex. 1. heh, heh
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caboclassof83
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Oh by the way that Doctor got five years and lost his medical and drivers license forever.
So the ***** still got off easy.....
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by BajaNomad]
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mtgoat666
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caboclassof83:
you go girl!!
tell these overweight prigs what fools they are!
btw, it is pointless arguing bicycle rights with the marooons here, they are suburban pigs with bloated cars that match their bloated bellies.
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wessongroup
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Very interesting, but not too funny... so I went back and re-read this thread.. Kind wondered if caboclassof83, might be someone in disguise... well,
found number of things which were of note:
Before the thread went dead.. the only individual who was posting consistently for the counter argument, that being for bike rides having exactly the
same rights as motorized vehicles regardless of any possible consideration on public safety... was mtgoat666
Certain abbreviations where used by mtgoat666 in the first go around prior to dropping the thread
"many nomads are irresponsible DWI drivers, so i imagine they have a ready supply of beer bottles in their oversized suvs and pickups. but i bet the
retirees will miss as they throw bottles at mexican youth, the DWI bottle throwers mostly seem to be overweight couch potatoes, unlikely to have good
aim"
and the same abbreviations were used in the second go around.. but this time by caboclassof83
"many nomads are irresponsible DWI drivers, so i imagine they have a ready supply of beer bottles in their oversized suvs and pickups. but i bet the
retirees will miss as they throw bottles at mexican youth, the DWI bottle throwers mostly seem to be overweight couch potatoes, unlikely to have good
aim"
Also noted was that the characteristics of the posts are very similar also.. Always attacking, insulting and rude and the arguments work from general
to specific and then from specific to general.. A very effective means of argument.
I cannot prove that caboclassof83 is mtgoat666, but the similarities are quite striking, and as caboclassof83 is REALLY up to speed on the topic... it
just make the possibility a bit more stronger.
Must agree with soulpatch.."I still adhere to the belief he is just a penis......and an unimpressive one at that! He definitely gets a few of you
all's goats...... El es una pulga. Ignore it. And my horrible Spanish."
It's all good, and fun.. Thanks who ever you are for all your time... me I have to lay here... on a nice day, but you... why are you on the key board?
I would much rather be outside enjoying things than doing this.. But, don't get me wrong.. If it were not for you.. It would get pretty boring without
the sharp stick in the eye from you to get things boiling..
Would just offer, better hope your identity remains a secret... as some might want to talk a bit further with you, with out a key board in their way
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mtgoat666
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wesson, you are dreaming. this goat posts only as goat.
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mulegemichael
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oh wow!....a guy that's defending the right of bicyclers to use a AT BEST two lane, putting everyone in danger trying to avoid hitting him when
there's a big boy coming your way...i say he's a grease smear on a long arid road...i'm sure he'll be missed...seems like such a lamb
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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caboclassof83
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Just some friendly "nomad" advice.....
All things being equal if you're some hung over Winebago ****** bag who probably can't pass a CDL eye test in either country any longer, who wouldn't
come within two time zones of a road like Mex 1 anywhere else on earth too; but you still think that the whole world exists for your pleasure, then
you would really be better off taking out a scruffy solo bike tourist.
Straight up!
Seriously, be careful if you just drove past a support vehicle with wheels on top on the way in. Especially if it had Mexican plates?
These solo guys tend to be from Europe or Australia and it could be weeks before anyone knows that they are missing. The one I met northbound was from
Denmark and hadn't been home in two years, blew right through Mulege at dusk and didn't even stop for a candy bar. That's your man. See how worn out
their stuff is? The lycra studs who don't get out of your way fast enough are the same ones that can get you in serious Code Napoleon trouble?
So class, lets review?
You are looking for dark tan but NOT Mexican-no sir! Never hit a Mexican no matter what he is riding, it's THEIR country after all.
You want light hair and really worn out clothes. Bike that's got some serious miles on it, spare spokes taped to the frame maybe even laundry drying
on the back. Much heavier load than the supported people, lots more water on board too. That guy's coming up from Argentina or Central America at
least. Sometimes they even have something on the bike that tells you what their home country is?
He came up all this way just to tick you off too, so let him have it!
I'm just saying that if you squish a cyclist who is being guided there by a commercial enterprise, especially one that's Mexican-based, they could
quite easily sue you right into a cave.
Worse if they have friends in law enforcement, or if you are legally proven drunk I reckon? So everyone on the RV side of this dispute who NEVER once
drove drunk on Mex 1 in a vehicle that he uses maybe six weeks a year please raise your hand?
You see there's a strong likelihood that people on flashy new equipment riding two abreast will fall into this commercially guided category. (And
lets say that I'm no fan of the organizer in this case either but at least he's out there doing it for a living?)
http://www.tourbaja.com/mountain_biking_bicycling_baja_calif...
And since you are guilty until anything is proven at all down there, and it usually takes months, you just might have been better off slowing down
and maybe being patient in the first place?
What's your rush anyway? Other people are using this road to make a living and they don't have these conniptions like you guys do?
Frankly if I were in your shoes and that scenario happened I would torch my rig way up a canyon somewhere and try to sneak out of the country just as
quickly as possible? Plus never come back.
Someone who can't calm down and wait a minute on an empty road out in the biggest middle of nowhere in North America probably isn't going to last very
long in a Mexican carcel either?
They don't have air conditioning or crushed ice at those places I hear?
But YMMV?
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
wesson, you are dreaming. this goat posts only as goat. |
but, then who is "this" goat
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
I cannot prove that caboclassof83 is mtgoat666, but the similarities are quite striking, and as caboclassof83 is REALLY up to speed on the topic... it
just make the possibility a bit more stronger.
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You don't seem to recognize the Uniform Vehicle Code when it slaps you right in the face either?
Do you think that "mtgoat666" knew that the Supervisor of the UNAM Observatory throughout the 1980s was Gorge Luis Aguilar? That they used to shut
down the Tiajuana expressways for bike races back then for no more baksheesh than buying breakfast for the Chief of Police?
That I had De La Madrid's new expressway to Colima all to myself because they hadn't opened the tool booths yet?
Did one of you really blow a cork one year taking the road to Tecate on a lark? It's only the same weekend every year too, how dare they fill it up
with cyclists?
But enough of that; I missed the most important point of all.
Listen up people!
Never hit a Mexican woman rider from one of these commercial tours. NEVER! She's likely the one using up the most of your God-given 11 foot wide lane
too! Probably doesn't get to ride very much where she comes from?
What's more her husband certainly has money, maybe power too, and he may even be right around the corner? Bad juju all the way around, believe me!! If
you see flashy new lycra and big old Aztec ta taas, someone who is not very straight going down the road then slow right TF down and try to sober up.
God help you if she has children?
Swallow your righteous rage, wait until you can smoosh the solo guy from New Zealand out there in the biggest middle of nowhere in North America. You
really don't want to find yourself there in front of a Mexican judge tap dancing around the former case. There are some things down there that you
just can't bribe your way out of?
I'm not kidding here! Not in the least?
You'll seriously thank me if it ever comes down to it....and I'm probably doing Rocky Point to San Felipe next winter too. I have this thing for new
roads.
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wessongroup
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And this all has what to do with public safety?
after thought... see what I mean about the similarities.. attack and all over the place..
Yeah, it is you goat.. you sneaky guy you... good exercise or is this Doug, keeping the ball in the air?
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by wessongroup]
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
(You low-life freeloaders never have to stop at highway scales anywhere either? Why is that?)
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Anyone?
Buehler?
Say how's the resale value on those pigs?
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wessongroup
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Can you tell us how many bike riders died on Mex 1 last year?
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
And this all has what to do with public safety?
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by wessongroup] |
The only problem here is your belligerent incompetence.
Mexicans don't have a problem with cows, vados, cyclists, you name it. Not on highways that are 50 times as crowded as the Peninsular and not driving
vehicles that are twice as heavy as yours.
What makes you so special then? Did you like buy the whole place when you crossed the border?
BTW I've been places in Latin America that would have you stooges ********** in technicolor too for what that is worth.
Mex One is not one of them no matter how senile, unfit and clueless you guys really are.
Not by a long shot.
Anywhere that you are too scared to go to, a transcontinental cyclist has already been there and probably 30 years ago.
You simply want the one place that you will go to all for yourselves and that's despicable, IMO.
The plunge into Santa Rosalia is no steeper than the Garden Wall section of Going to the Sun Road. Certainly no wider too. More exposed maybe, longer
maybe too, but on the other hand your brakes are way more likely to overheat in Baja for sure.
They haven't allowed RVs up there in Glacier since the Airstream days. You can't even tow a pop-up trailer through there. Now that I think of it they
aren't all that fond of them going over Independence Pass and that's a pretty benign road by Baja standards too.
Maybe you Winnebago clowns are just in way over your heads? And THAT'S the real problem here. Mex One road was meant for people who actually know how
to drive and the stuff you drive didn't really exist yet when they built it too......
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaNomad]
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Can you tell us how many bike riders died on Mex 1 last year? |
Less than the amount of drunken Winnebago ****** bags, that much is for sure.
In absolute numbers and by percentage of people who tried too.
Why is your claim to Mex One senior to mine? Neither of us are Mexican Citizens and the Mexicans themselves don't have a problem with me being there.
Not in the least. (Because I've been places where they did, that's a horse of a different color.)
Besides, I was there first.
And this road is so far from actually being dangerous when you presumably have competent motorists and propperly speced out vehicles involved that it
can't even dial there long distance. Just about everything south of Baton Rouge is worse, given that you are swimming when they run you off the road
there. Just about anything going across the Appalachians is worse too.
They have a road on Cape Breton Island that's as sinuous and narrow as anything in Mexico, plenty of RV traffic too. You actually got tired of the
politeness of the drivers there after a day or two.
You clowns are the problem- stick to Imperial Dam.
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caboclassof83
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This is dangerous.
http://www.ssqq.com/archive/vinlin27b.htm
Gringoes and Europeans ride bikes down it too.
Sinaloa is dangerous too, probably moreso now than then. (But there was plenty of Opium farming back then too; everyplace you went was like a Cabo
Pulmo and you ate with your back to the wall.)
You could easily just disappear in Guerrero too, they had M-60s covering traffic circles from up on a scissor-jack when I was there in Acapulco.
There was open rebellion in that state through the early 1980s. A military check point there was 20 soldiers locked and loaded and then the Officer
told you about a piece of road up ahead where "we can't protect you there."
It was straight out of Apocalypse Now.
In Oaxaca a guy burned to death there in his truck, the other guy in the accident crawled bleeding into the mangroves, maybe he lived maybe he died
and the law didn't get there for four more days. Same places that they go to in "Y Tu Mama Tambien."
Baja is a cakewalk by any standard and the road that you weenies are whining so hard about is essentially an Autobahn by comparison to this stuff.
Whether you like it or not it's one of the most favorable cycling destinations out there once you figured out the water issue. North to south has a
sweet tailwind in the spring and then the weather is perfect down at the tip too.
The bikes aren't going anywhere.
Maybe you are the ones who should stay where you belong instead?
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
How do you speak for Mexicans? Are you one? Know many? Speak Spanish?
--Larry |
No, yes, and yes. I know some really rich ones who have ridden through the same places that I have too, they happen to think that you have your heads
way up your asses as well.
Of course I've only said that I'm not an Mexican and neither are any of you RV slugs twice now. Is this the kind of attention span that you manifest
driving that whale of yours down Baja too?
I slept in a place in Chiapas where nobody outside of two ancient families was supposed to be inside the city walls after dark. Good thing I was out
of here at first light and didn't know about that 400 year old tradition until after lunch the next day?
From Play Azul southwards you didn't give the locals any guff at all because they were all carrying machetes, even the children. Nothing at all like
that in Baja before they turned Cabo into a ********* and certainly not for 350 miles from end to end either..
On the boat crossing Lago Attitlan a Swiss expatriate took me out to the bow and quietly whispered that every published massacre story from that
region was as true as the day is long. I didn't see a single Government official from there to the border and the road goes up over 3000 meters
elevation too.
You are children with really big toys that you can't handle for ****, on a road where they really don't belong to begin with and in a nutshell that's
the whole problem here.
If you knew how to drive and be respectful in a foreign country there wouldn't be any issue here at all.
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaNomad]
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LancairDriver
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This guy can't be for real- if he was he would have had his face sewn onto a soccer ball long ago. Might happen yet.
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