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desertcpl
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WOW he is really into himself, guess all of us old farts should go and hide,,
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Can you tell us how many bike riders died on Mex 1 last year? |
Less than the amount of drunken Winnebago ****** bags, that much is for sure.
In absolute numbers and by percentage of people who tried too.
Why is your claim to Mex One senior to mine? Neither of us are Mexican Citizens and the Mexicans themselves don't have a problem with me being there.
Not in the least. (Because I've been places where they did, that's a horse of a different color.)
Besides, I was there first.
And this road is so far from actually being dangerous when you presumably have competent motorists and propperly speced out vehicles involved that it
can't even dial there long distance. Just about everything south of Baton Rouge is worse, given that you are swimming when they run you off the road
there. Just about anything going across the Appalachians is worse too.
They have a road on Cape Breton Island that's as sinuous and narrow as anything in Mexico, plenty of RV traffic too. You actually got tired of the
politeness of the drivers there after a day or two.
You clowns are the problem- stick to Imperial Dam. |
Once again goat your response is predictable.. attack.. without answering the question.
How many biycyclest were killed riding on Mex ! last year?
Seems a simple enough question to answer, as you profess an unusual amount of knowledge about cycling though out Central and South America
It would seem a good staring point for discussion purposes in any debate about something, if that is what you are attempting to accomplish, or is
there a hidden motive.. as usual ........
Come on, it's easy.... just fill in the blank___________________________
Have made it large for all those how have may have been injured and/or killed on Mexican 1, and to reduce the amount of rambling .. go ahead just put
the number in the blank.. 
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Russ
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I'm not a big fan of motor homes on Mex.1 either but they do pump a lot of tourist dollars into the economy down here. You could say, if you wish,
that their help to the areas they visit is proportionate to the rubber they put on the road compared to you crazy peddle jockeys.
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by Russ]
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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caboclassof83
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I guess bicycles are the ones at fault here too?
Frank wrote:
Time to get these damn RVs off the road. You cannot drive a semi-truck without a special license and testing. Why are retired clowns allowed to
drive these gas guzzling road hogging traffic delaying monstrosities on our narrow roads with a regular drivers license? Make them take interstates or
hire an escort.
Right on! When will these retired ************ realize these RVs are like driving a bus.
Brake failed? Any bets on he was just driving too fast.
That road should be closed to RV's. They can't possible stay in their lanes while twisting and turning around the cliffs. They are such a menace.
I believe there are signs (at least in Marin) telling people not to drive rigs longer than a certain size upon Hwy 1.
"Claxton, his wife and another passenger were driving about a mile north of Fort Ross Sunday morning when an RV on a curve crossed into the path of
their Lexus, reported the CHP."
That was my uncle.
brain malfunction more likely.
imagine making it to 79 and then having some schmuck in a 35 foot rv run you off the road?
hwy 1 ...... man! you got to be careful out there
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaNomad]
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wessongroup
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Question is still there goat 1 or 2... how many?
Oh, by the way.. someone got a picture of me leaving for a dental appointment.. see if your in the picture... 
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by wessongroup]
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For those of you who feel you have the right to ride your bicycles on those skinny Baja California highways may you rest in peace! Semi-Tractor
Trailers and Motorhomes and rule the highway in La Baja! Bicycles stay home or move over!
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Oh, by the way.. someone got a picture of me leaving for a dental appointment.. see if your in the picture...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
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You guys are killing me...
[Edited on 2-15-2010 by BajaGringo]
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caboclassof83
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Must have been a bicycle in the vicinity?
http://www.rversonline.org/ArtMexDrive.html
....The way I see it too many accidents occur between RV's and residents because the RV driver swerved, changed lanes, pulled out, or turned a corner
without looking first. Méxican drivers seldom use turn signals themselves but they certainly understand their function. In México you must drive your
RV in such a fashion that other drivers can predict your next move with some degree of certainty.
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How many bicycle riders were killed on Mex 1, last year?
RV's are not the topic of discussion, rather bicycle riders on Mex 1
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caboclassof83
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So how come they never found the Cyclist who certainly must have caused this mishap?
Semmes Community Mourns Teen Death
Chad Petri
Violet Deas is one of the many people living in this Semmes neighborhood on McCrary road in shock after yesterday’s accident.
” He was a 16-year-old kid, it just breaks my heart,” says Violet. “It's hard for me to handle.” David Velez was walking with a friend yesterday
afternoon when he was hit by a motor home. 68-year-old Burnice Dredings Jr. was behind the wheel. He hasn’t been charged yet, but state troopers say
alcohol may have been involved.
Donald Davenport was with his son in the front yard yesterday afternoon. They were picking up sticks as he watched the whole thing happen.
“They were off the road in the other driveway,” says Davenport. “Maybe a foot or so and the van swerved over and struck the young boy.” Davenport says
he rushed his son inside and then tried to help the young men. David was flown to USA medical center and later pronounced dead. The friend who was
walking with him was in shock.
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caboclassof83
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And what are you going to do about it?
Seriously?
Does it all end with your fun time on this Message Board?
Or do you really try to get the Mexican Government to trash the Uniform Vehicle Code on the least busy major highway in the entire Republic.
Because when you get on the Mainland and the towns are closer together, the arterial roads are plumb full of bikes. And horses and carts and mothers
walking with their children.
I'm just dying to see how you pull that off for a bunch of selfish ******bags who mostly don't even own any land down there?
Better tread lightly there gramps.
Somebody might just end lining all you guys up in front of a Spanish eye chart for your trouble?
We know that you'll probably get the letter "X" right because they have a halfway famous beer with that letter in it, but "H" and "J" and "I" and "Z"
might throw you for a loop even if you actually can see them up there on the wall?
Ditto for "e iglesia" and "e latina."
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Paula
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"The plunge into Santa Rosalia is no steeper than the Garden Wall section of Going to the Sun Road. Certainly no wider too. More exposed maybe, longer
maybe too, but on the other hand your brakes are way more likely to overheat in Baja for sure.
They haven't allowed RVs up there in Glacier since the Airstream days. You can't even tow a pop-up trailer through there. Now that I think of it they
aren't all that fond of them going over Independence Pass and that's a pretty benign road by Baja standards too."
--- Caboclassof83
There are width and length restrictions on vehicles traveling Going-to-the-Sun Highway. Bicycles are not allowed at all during peak driving hours--
between 11am and 4pm.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
And what are you going to do about it?
Seriously?
Does it all end with your fun time on this Message Board?
Or do you really try to get the Mexican Government to trash the Uniform Vehicle Code on the least busy major highway in the entire Republic.
Because when you get on the Mainland and the towns are closer together, the arterial roads are plumb full of bikes. And horses and carts and mothers
walking with their children.
I'm just dying to see how you pull that off for a bunch of selfish ******bags who mostly don't even own any land down there?
Better tread lightly there gramps.
Somebody might just end lining all you guys up in front of a Spanish eye chart for your trouble?
We know that you'll probably get the letter "X" right because they have a halfway famous beer with that letter in it, but "H" and "J" and "I" and "Z"
might throw you for a loop even if you actually can see them up there on the wall?
Ditto for "e iglesia" and "e latina." |
How many bicycle riders were killed on Mex 1, last year?
RV's are not the topic of discussion, rather bicycle riders on Mex 1
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caboclassof83
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Looks like the rogue cyclist who cause this mess got away scott free?
And the alchoholic piece of chit driving a vehicle he is grossly unqualified to operate gets portrayed as the victim once again too?
Must really chap your hide?
Maybe the Mexican Government should shut down a 1000 mile long highway to make you dudes feel more comfortable.
http://www.personalinjurieslawyerblog.com/drunk-driving-acci...
Los Angeles DUI Car Accident Involving RV Causes Injuries
Posted on 7 Jan 2010 - by Bob In: Drunk Driving Accident
One person was injured in a Los Angeles car accident when a RV went out-of-control and struck at least four vehicles on a Burbank Street, according to
an Associated Press news report. The accident occurred the night of January 5, 2010 when the driver of the RV, who was heading west on Riverside
Drive, made a wide right turn onto Buena Vista Street. The RV first struck a car that was stopped in traffic. The RV then struck a second vehicle
causing it to overturn. Two more cars were also struck before the RV came to a stop. The driver of the vehicle that flipped sustained injuries, which
were not life-threatening. The driver of the RV is suspected of driving under the influence.
It's indeed fortunate that no one was seriously injured in this multi-vehicle accident. I wish the injured victim here, the best for a quick and
complete recovery.
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Does anybody have any stats on tourist bicyclists killed or the cause of motorists killed on Highway 1 in Baja? I'm not so much interested in
sanctioned race accidents. Could it be something that we're afraid of happening even though it never has - like the myth of people putting drugs in
trick-o-treaters' candy? Even though it has never occurred, we freak out about it.
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caboclassof83
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I very much doubt that there is any sanctioned racing at all in Baja of late. It was heavily focused on the Northern Baja Area when it did exist and
relied on San Diego based USCF riders to fill out the fields. I don't see how it could have survived the 2 hour waits crossing the border, let alone
the subsequent drug war operiod?
The main organizer lived in TJ and operated a bike ship in Imperial Beach; he's almost certainly retired by now.
I participared in two events, one from downdown Ensenada to the Bufadora and back and another doing a ring around TJ then Rosarito out to Presa
Rodriguez back past the Airport and ending up in front of the Jai-Lai fronton.
When the guys from Mexicali showed up with elbow pads you knew that you were in for a special flavor of competition, fortunately we dropped them
pretty quickly. But nobody got hurt in these two cases and point to point racing of this nature was already an endangered species in California by
then too.
The TJ event that year was won by a current Olympic track cycling medalist.
Sponsored recreational rides in the year 2010 are a whole other animal and even in places like Colorado, Ohio, and Iowa I avoid them like the plague.
Paying $150 to have my health endangered by other cyclists is not my cup of tea.
I actually empathize with motorists who get stuck behind these wanker fests.
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
Looks like the rogue cyclist who cause this mess got away scott free?
And the alchoholic piece of chit driving a vehicle he is grossly unqualified to operate gets portrayed as the victim once again too?
Must really chap your hide?
Maybe the Mexican Government should shut down a 1000 mile long highway to make you dudes feel more comfortable.
http://www.personalinjurieslawyerblog.com/drunk-driving-acci...
Los Angeles DUI Car Accident Involving RV Causes Injuries
Posted on 7 Jan 2010 - by Bob In: Drunk Driving Accident
One person was injured in a Los Angeles car accident when a RV went out-of-control and struck at least four vehicles on a Burbank Street, according to
an Associated Press news report. The accident occurred the night of January 5, 2010 when the driver of the RV, who was heading west on Riverside
Drive, made a wide right turn onto Buena Vista Street. The RV first struck a car that was stopped in traffic. The RV then struck a second vehicle
causing it to overturn. Two more cars were also struck before the RV came to a stop. The driver of the vehicle that flipped sustained injuries, which
were not life-threatening. The driver of the RV is suspected of driving under the influence.
It's indeed fortunate that no one was seriously injured in this multi-vehicle accident. I wish the injured victim here, the best for a quick and
complete recovery. |
How many bicycle riders were killed on Mex 1, last year?
RV's are not the topic of discussion, rather bicycle riders on Mex 1
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
I very much doubt that there is any sanctioned racing at all in Baja of late. It was heavily focused on the Northern Baja Area when it did exist and
relied on San Diego based USCF riders to fill out the fields. I don't see how it could have survived the 2 hour waits crossing the border, let alone
the subsequent drug war operiod?
The main organizer lived in TJ and operated a bike ship in Imperial Beach; he's almost certainly retired by now.
I participared in two events, one from downdown Ensenada to the Bufadora and back and another doing a ring around TJ then Rosarito out to Presa
Rodriguez back past the Airport and ending up in front of the Jai-Lai fronton.
When the guys from Mexicali showed up with elbow pads you knew that you were in for a special flavor of competition, fortunately we dropped them
pretty quickly. But nobody got hurt in these two cases and point to point racing of this nature was already an endangered species in California by
then too.
The TJ event that year was won by a current Olympic track cycling medalist.
Sponsored recreational rides in the year 2010 are a whole other animal and even in places like Colorado, Ohio, and Iowa I avoid them like the plague.
Paying $150 to have my health endangered by other cyclists is not my cup of tea.
I actually empathize with motorists who get stuck behind these wanker fests. |
How many bicycle riders were killed on Mex 1, last year?
RV's are not the topic of discussion, rather bicycle riders on Mex 1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
I very much doubt that there is any sanctioned racing at all in Baja of late. It was heavily focused on the Northern Baja Area when it did exist and
relied on San Diego based USCF riders to fill out the fields. I don't see how it could have survived the 2 hour waits crossing the border, let alone
the subsequent drug war operiod?
The main organizer lived in TJ and operated a bike ship in Imperial Beach; he's almost certainly retired by now.
I participared in two events, one from downdown Ensenada to the Bufadora and back and another doing a ring around TJ then Rosarito out to Presa
Rodriguez back past the Airport and ending up in front of the Jai-Lai fronton.
When the guys from Mexicali showed up with elbow pads you knew that you were in for a special flavor of competition, fortunately we dropped them
pretty quickly. But nobody got hurt in these two cases and point to point racing of this nature was already an endangered species in California by
then too.
The TJ event that year was won by a current Olympic track cycling medalist.
Sponsored recreational rides in the year 2010 are a whole other animal and even in places like Colorado, Ohio, and Iowa I avoid them like the plague.
Paying $150 to have my health endangered by other cyclists is not my cup of tea.
I actually empathize with motorists who get stuck behind these wanker fests. |
How many bicycle riders were killed on Mex 1, last year?
RV's are not the topic of discussion, rather bicycle riders on Mex 1 |
the problem appears to be old people with too big vehicles, driving too fast, and annoyed at bikes, because they no longer have reflexes necessary to
slow down when they encounter a bike rider on the road. the problem is pig-headed people driving too fast.
wesson,
is it alzheimers that has you repeating your question? or is it the rocks in your head?
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