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bajabound2005
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Hey, Dennis! I waved at you both times as I rode my bike past your house this morning 
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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caboclassof83
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So make yourself useful instead of foolish (and probably running an RV Campground somewhere,) and tell me all about how the Uniform Vehicle Code will
ever get thrown right out the window there on the least heavily traveled major road in the entire Republic?
In a culture like this?
http://velonews.competitor.com/2008/10/road/stage-2-vuelta-c...
Point to point road racing has fourished through out Latin America to a degree where countries like Chile and even Cuba had a more attractive schedule
that the U.S.A. did until very recently.
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caboclassof83
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Timo1
Wonder if Carlos Slim would be crazy enough to bike down Mex 1 |
Given the time of year there at least two dozen people doing it right now. That's from top to bottom or bottom to top all the way through.
Given the current situation at the border it's a very safe bet that no more than a third of them, tops, are U.S. Ciitizens and just as likely that
half of them are well heeled Mexican nationals.
Maybe they should all petition their governent to get drunk foreigners who never once qualified to drive vehicles that size on a normal-sized road
anywhere on earth removed instead?
http://blog.rv.net/2008/02/crashes-arent-accidents/
This week, I’m going to focus on the main causes of the crashes I attend. I go to an average of about 3 crashes every 12 hour shift. In poor
weather, that number can quadruple easily.
#5) Not paying attention. Right up there at the top. There’s topics all over the forums about overweight this or overweight that. This is
dangerous, that is dangerous. Let me tell you — I’d far rather be in a slightly overloaded rig than one driven by an inattentive driver. We’ve been
driving for so long we forget to give it the respect and attention it deserves. We can cause a lot of damage to ourselves and others with our many
multi-ton mechanical behemoths. An F250 can cause a lot more damage to a family than a shotgun, yet the shotgun gets far more respect in handling.
It shouldn’t be that way. Driver distractions such as cell phones, text messaging (don’t get me started), new audio devices, GPS devices, have added
more and more competition for drivers attention. Some drivers are buying in dash DVD players so they can watch movies while they drive (and yes
that’s illegal).
#6) Disobeying traffic control devices and ignorance of the laws. I bet 50% of the drivers on the road do not know what to do if the power fails and
the traffic lights aren’t functioning, or who has the right of way at a 4 way stop or at an uncontrolled intersection. Well, here are the answers.
If the traffic lights stop functioning, that intersection should be treated like a 4 way stop with the person to the right having the right of way.
Further to that, if two vehicles arrive at a 4 way stop at the same time, the driver to the right has the right of way — same as an uncontrolled
intersection. Most people also seem to be unclear as to what an amber traffic light means. Some casual observing would likely lead you to believe
it’s some kind of acceleration test signal, but it’s not. What it means in law is “stop if it is safe to do so” as the light will be turning red in a
few seconds. Stop signs — as those seldom obeyed red octagons. You’d swear sometimes the text reads “STOPTIONAL” instead of “STOP”. Slowing down
isn’t good enough. Lane control signs, directional signs, no turning here or there. They’re all there for a reason. Sometimes the reason may not be
just for safety, often it is for efficiency of traffic flow. A left turn in a single lane of traffic may not in itself be a safety issue, but while
you are waiting to turn left out of that single lane, cars are piling up behind you. Not allowing left turns keeps traffic flowing through.
#7) Driving while impaired. You’d figure we’d have this one licked by now, but alas, it still happens on a regular basis. One of our local
newspaper columnists just got arrested for drunk driving a few days ago***. A professional, grown man, bright and articulate. Drinking and driving
bridges all classes of society. It has no niche you can box it in and say, “those are the kind of people that drink and drive”. Don’t do it. Just
don’t. I know that most of the people I arrest for DUI don’t plan for this to happen.
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caboclassof83
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I stand corrected!
It appears that at least one you once DID actually take a road test somewhere in the very same kind of vehicles you want to monopolize Mex One with!
We've even got the video?
http://www.videovat.com/videos/17462/bad-accident-atm-and-an-rv-just-don't-go-together!!.aspx
Boy do I feel stuipid now?
(But I still can't see how a cyclist would have caused this?)
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josie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
| Quote: | Originally posted by josie
caboclass - I am a Mexican citizen and I assure you that 99.9% of Mexicans will tell you that you are dead (no pun intended) wrong on this. You can
ramble on and on and on all you want but nothing you say will change that. Your attempt to speak for us is not even close to reality.
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Carlos Slim disagrees with you.
http://www.vueltamexico.com.mx/vm/
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If you use Carlos Slim to represent 99.9% of Mexico it demonstrates how really out of touch you are. You sound more and more like a lawyer.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
if two vehicles arrive at a 4 way stop at the same time, the driver to the right has the right of way |
well, finally something interesting...........
I have a question.
Who has the right of way if 4 vehicles arrive at a 4 way stop at the same time?
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josie
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The big truck with bad brakes!
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caboclassof83
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If you use Carlos Slim to represent 99.9% of Mexico it demonstrates how really out of touch you are. You sound more and more like a lawyer.
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Where on earth do you get the idea that 99.9 percent iof Mexico drives motor vehicles twice as big as their own houses and never once took a road test
to establish their competence?
That doesn't even happen in Missoiri?
http://forums.bajanomad.com/post.php?action=reply&fid=38...
RV Accidents
Many people take to Missouri and Illinois roads in motor homes, travel trailers, 5th wheels, and other recreational vehicles (RVs). Unfortunately,
some of the people operating these vehicles are inexperienced drivers who present a danger to those in smaller cars and trucks.
In Missouri and Illinois, anyone with a class C license can drive any two-axle RV with a gross vehicle weight of 26,000 pounds or less and any
three-axle vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds or less. Anyone with a class C license can also tow any trailer home or 5th wheel weighing less than 10,000
lbs.
While people who drive RVs are not required to obtain special driver training or licensing, they still do have a responsibility to drive safely. Large
heavy vehicles handle differently than cars, take longer to stop, and have difficulty accelerating when going up hills. RV drivers need to be aware of
what is going on around their vehicles at all times.
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wessongroup
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Goat 2... appears that you have a thing for bicycles, good.. rather that then lead based paint or mold
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josie
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caboclass - get a grip, take a pill, settle down, call your therapist! You are really getting yourself all worked up here and addressing somethings
that is not the subject of this thread. This is about bad mannered people hogging the highway riding side by side down the road without care, even
though they may have a caravan of cars, trucks, busses and more held up behind them because they chose not to just move over for a moment and let
people pass. This is not about RV's, licensing requirements or Carlos Slim. Any normal driver would be ticked off at that kind of selfish behavior no
matter what they are driving if they come up behind a couple of rude people like that who refuse to yield and let them pass.
If you ask Mexicans what they think about two people riding down a two lane highway, side by side with a trailing car and holding up all the traffic
wih total disregard to everybody else (that is the subject and topic of this thread), 99.9% of Mexicanos will agree that this is very, very bad
behavior.
You can cite all kinds of internet references and make all the legal arguments you want but the reality is you are just plain wrong.
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caboclassof83
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This must be a cyclist's fault too?
Both the drivers and the stapled-together chitboxes themselves aren't tested to any kind of a reasonable standard?
(No wonder you sots want the whole road to yourselves?)
http://data.nicar.org/uplink/node/63
A victim's view of RV safety
At some point in this information-gathering process, an assignment editor (who happened to be in the market for a new motor home) came to my desk with
an article on the Hurricane Ridge accident from the independent RV Consumer Group Web site. The article contained photos, taken by the Web site
creator, of the Owens’ RV crash scene. We had tried to get access to that same RV for our investigation, but the insurance companies and police kept
it locked up and refused to let us too close. I called the Web site’s operators, JD and Connie Gallant. It turns out that JD had walked up to the
Owens’ RV the day after the accident and took hundreds of photos, many showing the interior of the motor home.
He showed me the photos and pointed out one in particular. The photo showed a heavy wooden cabinet that had ripped apart from the walls of the RV. It
sat squarely across Lonnie Owens’ seat. As Gallant put it, some “screw and glue” might have saved Owens’ life.
We were so busy trying to broaden the scope of our investigation that I almost missed the opportunity to shed new light on the specific, fatal
accident that led us to this story in the first place. Gallant’s pictures helped me realize that the official state patrol crash investigation was lax
when it came to determining Lonnie Owens’ cause of death. Scene investigators concentrated only on brake failure as the cause of the accident. They
never raised the issue of ‘cause of death.’ I wondered if Lonnie Owens could have survived the crash caused by brake failure if the cabinet had stayed
on the wall. Was there a standard for screw length? Did anyone require or conduct front-end crash tests on motor homes?
The answer was no and no. The federal government asks that empty motor home frames be impact tested and has no requirements for testing after the
top-heavy “house” is built. Construction standards are left up to the whims of the RV maker. Some manufacturers don’t even put on front-end bumpers.
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caboclassof83
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FATAL CRASH CAUSED BY DOG IN RV DRIVER'S LAP
Well that's a relief?
I thought the rogue cyclist who must have caused this absolutely pointless tragedy had slipped away unscathed once again?
http://host.madison.com/news/local/article_81b802a3-25a5-540...
The crash Saturday that killed an Iowa Boy Scout leader and one of three scouts on a trip with him in the town of Verona was caused by a dog jumping
into the lap of a man driving a motorhome, the Dane County Sheriff's Office said Monday.
The dog created a distraction for the driver of the motorhome, sheriff's spokeswoman Elise Schaffer said, causing him to cross the median.
The motorhome struck an Oldsmobile SUV driven by scout leader John W. Seier, 55, of Dubuque, who was immediately killed along with front seat
passenger Travis Brune, 13, a Boy Scout from LaMotte, Iowa, Schaffer said.
Another scout who was in the back seat was pinned in the SUV and suffered critical injuries but is expected to survive, Schaffer said. A third scout,
also in the back seat, was injured but the extent of his injuries was not described.
The driver of the motorhome, Gary A. Boldt, 62, of Pewaukee, and a passenger also suffered non-life-threatening injuries in the crash that occurred at
about 11 a.m. near Highway G.
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caboclassof83
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In the State of Utah, any road exceeding 6% is considered unsafe for school buses.
And school bus drivers even have to prove to their respective states that they do know how to operate the vehicle too? Been There, Done That.
What's WRONG with this picture?
No wonder these RV freeloaders want bikes off the road?
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bent-rim
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CaboClassof83, Welcome to the board.
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caboclassof83
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Thwe whole reason that these RV ***** want to monolize Mex One?
The new Mexican "Interstate Highway System" is all toll roads and they charge RVs the same as 18 wheelers.
(Plus another lick for the Jeep Cherokee they are towing along behind them too.)
IMO these are just about the only roads that full sized US RVs are really suited to operate on in Mexico too. Assuming senile unqualified operators as
opposed to younger Mexican professionals, of course.....I saw Mexican commercial bus drivers work miracles back before the new road network existed.
http://www.peoplesguide.com/1pages/chapts/drive/toll/toll-ro...
Mexico’s Toll Highways:
Love ‘Em or Leave ‘Em
published: October 2001
Mexico’s extensive system of toll highways cause a good deal of groaning and teeth-gnashing from tourists. Those who drive “big rig” RV’s and
motorhomes are especially vocal in their complaints about the high toll costs involved in an extensive Mexican road trip.
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by BajaNomad]
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caboclassof83
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The whole reason that these RV ****** want to monopolize Mex One?
As if getting a complete Free Pass on highway scales and OTR fuel regulations in the Continental U.S. wasn't already enough for them?
Talk about a subsidized and for the most part useless industry?
Bank of America has NOTHING on Winnebago?
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by BajaNomad]
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josie
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caboclassof83 - This thread is not about RV's. Do you realize you are answering your own posts? You really need to get back on your meds.
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caboclassof83
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This one would have slowed down to 75 on Mex One, I reckon?
Probably restricted himself to light beer too? Mexico can be a dangerous place after all?
No wonder these people have it in for bicyclists?
http://www.topix.com/city/fort-collins-co/2010/02/state-patr...
State Patrol: RV in fatal summer crash outside Fort Collins traveling at 86 mph
Full story: Fort Collins Coloradoan
A judge ruled this afternoon that jurors in a trial scheduled for next month will be able to consider evidence about the fastest speed traveled by an
RV involved in a fatal crash.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by caboclassof83
What's the difference between a San Diego lawyer on a $5000 touring bicycle and a Mexican native with 200 pesos... |
At the current exchange rate, the difference is $4,984.46.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Bajahowodd
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My. What an entertaining thread. And it is an exemplar of why net neutrality must be preserved. Other than that, caboclass really needs to get an
adjustment of meds. Or, for the sake of society in general, be in a lock down facility.
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