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[*] posted on 3-22-2010 at 05:25 PM
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[*] posted on 3-22-2010 at 06:09 PM


I think it's closer to Coco's end of the road rather than the south end near El Crucero. Go from Coco's (he will give you directions) toward Calamajue and you will peel off to the right after a few miles. Then you will be crossing open desert and you will drop into the canyon. You will definitely know when you arrive in the canyon from the water and greenery! I think the mission site is real close to there....Good luck!!! I will see if I can find some pics.....
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[*] posted on 3-22-2010 at 06:25 PM


Not to worry Amy, David will pop up soon to help you, he must be working late.



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[*] posted on 3-22-2010 at 07:16 PM


Yah... if the mission site is the main interest and not driving in a stream for a few miles... then go to Coco's Corner and take the road heading east (vs. the one that goes north past Coco's door to Gonzaga Bay).

That will be the graded road to Puerto Calamajue fish camp... about 6 1/2 miles from Coco's you will see a branch dirt road heading off to the right... or south... It goes about 8 miles to the edge of the Calamajue river gorge... and drops down to the bottom. Before going down the grade... look to your left for the ruins of an ore mill used to process gold from nearby mines... They are on the side of the cliff...

Now look across the river to a bench on the opposite side... There is where the mission was located (it was a visita before becoming the first site of the mission that was renamed Santa Maria de los Angeles... after it was moved.

At the bottom of the grade... the main road south to El Crucero (and Baja 1000 route) continues up and into the narrow gorge... However, to get to the mission, you want to turn slightly left and cross to the other side of the river bed... a short grade takes you up to the bench on the opposite side where ruins (just outlines) of the adobe mission buildings remain as well as some more recent stone corrals... Possibly from the mining days of 100+ years ago.

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CALAMAJUE 29º25'16.30" 114º11'42.36" Located 15.5 miles north of Hwy. 1 (Km. 261) or
14 miles east and south of Coco's Corner, on the east bank of Arroyo Calamajue.



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[*] posted on 3-22-2010 at 10:37 PM


I agree I'd go in from Coco's. For one thing he'll have some sort of info on the road and the fish camp (he never seems too happy with the people down at the camp). And from the south it can be a bit worse than what David K said about driving in a stream...it can be REAL wet and 4x4 necessary...plus if you are traveling alone you won't have much back up but if adventure and some beautiful off roading is what you're looking for, go for it!
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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 07:10 AM


Yah Amy, what RedHillTown says... There is a deep hole while driving in the creek that will surprise you, if you go south of the mission in the canyon.



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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 07:30 AM


Also, you may encounter a great deal of mud on the road about a mile from the stream. We were in 4WD and my tires (BFGs) just became slicks and had no traction. We walked in from there. Depends on the rain. Good Luck.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 07:40 AM


Here's the AAA map with the El Camino Real route highlighted...





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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 08:27 AM


I road it 2 weeks ago on a M/C. It's not much of a road any more;it's only used by M/C 's and serious of roaders.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 04:25 PM


It is many miles from the fish camp and it gets quite a bit of gringo traffic, so no worries - except for the mud south of the camp. It would make a nice hike if you are alone and do not like the looks of the mush. From the mushy area, note the foot trail up the west side mountain that goes to a mine a short distance - but UP. :o
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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 04:33 PM


It's a great place to camp near the mission and take day hikes into the canyon. Bring your own drinking water though. The warm springs bubbling out of the rocks are probably too mineralized to drink.

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[*] posted on 3-23-2010 at 07:29 PM


It can get really wet.....

Pretty close to where you drop into the canyon.....

Deep, stinky water and mud.....

It's a jungle in there......
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[*] posted on 3-24-2010 at 07:28 AM


Graham Mackintosh wrote about the fish camp in his book Into a Desert Place. Interesting experience and good read.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2010 at 09:37 AM


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Driving to calamajue
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[*] posted on 3-24-2010 at 09:51 AM


I know how much you all love my old photos of Baja! :lol:




That's me in 1967 at the gold ore mill ruins on the edge of Calamajue arroyo... the road drops down to the arroyo floor just south of these ruins... and the mission is on the opposite side of the arroyo from these ruins.... a road goes right up to the mission site. The main road south enters the canyon (seen in the distance here)... and rides right in the stream for several miles.

Here's a couple photos at the mission I took in Jan., 2002:







Not too much there... The site was abandoned because crops would not grow in the highly mineralized water.




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shocked.gif posted on 3-25-2010 at 06:29 AM
Coco's Corner to Calamajue (from space)




Fork to the right for Calamajue (Gonzaga is the left fork).



In 2 1/2 miles, coming through some hills, is the older road to Gonzaga from Calamajue.



Here's a high view, straight up... north at top.



Now heading south, the road to Calamajue mission and south is the straight ahead (right) road. The graded road to Puerto Calamajue curves to the left.



Nearing Calamajue, a road heads off to the right to the canyon that is the route of El Camino Real heading north.



Getting very near the arroyo, the old Calamjue airstrip is off to the right... and between it and the road is the Camino Real. On the left are the gold ore mill ruins, overlooking the arroyo. On the opposite bank is the mission site.



The road drops steeply down to the arroyo... at the bottom, a faint left branch is the route to the mission... main traffic continues south in the streambed.



The mission road climbs up the cliff to the bench overlooking the arroyo where the ruins are.



Here is a higher look from the south, above the road in the canyon.

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[*] posted on 3-26-2010 at 08:11 AM


De nada... Google Earth is pretty good at seeing the area or helping find roads to places you would like to explore.

At the mission, you might spend more time than it looks worth spending... The missionaries were established there longer than the few months it was a mission... as it was a visita before and after the fewe months it was a mission. Then the gold miners were there for a long time... including Dick Daggett ... You can read alot about Calamajue in Arthur North' book 'Camp and Camino in Lower California... about his visit with Daggett and others there in 1905/6.

Some trails can be seen heading away from the mission to the east... on Google.




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[*] posted on 3-26-2010 at 10:24 PM


Man....Pacifico NAILED it!!!! And I'm sure the one photo is the deep pool David K was talking about...it can be nasty. We kept two tires on the dry bank and two in the water and the pitch was a bit sickening...but we made it. Have fun but try to bring some back up!
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[*] posted on 11-27-2013 at 03:45 PM


A follow-up on this Calamajué info...

In July, 2012 the creek was just a trickle and that hole Pacifico shows (and I drove into in 2002) was gone or missed. The road was easy south of the mission/ mill end of the canyon, but the last few miles to El Crucero were all whoops so a bit tedious driving.


Road north of Calamajué, southbound


Arroyo Overlook, next to gold mill ruins on side of cliff


Mission Church Outline


Looking at mill ruins from mission side of arroyo


Biggest water hazard this trip


In canyon


Dancing Boojums south of canyon climbout

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