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grace59
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Giving car from US to someone in Mexico.
Hi all, We have a 1997 Ford F-150 that we want to give to a friend of ours in Mexico. Has anyone ever done this before? What is the right way to do
this? Do we have to import the truck? How do we change title? Is there an agency that I need to contact to gather information? Thanks for any help
that you can give us. We want to make sure that we do this the right way so that our friend can keep the truck without getting into trouble and in a
way where we are no longer liable for the truck. Thanks
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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mulegemichael
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...well...i really don't know..really..but i have given three different vehicles away down here without any problems yet over the past 15 years or
so...the last one, in mulege this past december, seemed to be easy...i drove it down, gave it to my amigo, and he promptly went to town and got some
kind of temporary/permanent sticker on it...he says it's forever..so i don't know..in the little towns where i turned the rigs over, it's no problem
as the feds aren't looking but i know in the bigger places it can be a problem...in mulege; a perm/temp sticker seems to foot the bill
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It's not cheap. My amigo (national) was given a truck, and it was over $1100. U.S. for proper paper work..... I admire you for wanting to do it
right.
He was told by the cops (Fed) to drive local (San Quintin) and he wouldn't have a problem with them. No drives to Ensenada.
[Edited on 4-28-2010 by TonyC]
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Bob and Susan
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actually it's pretty easy
you bring it down
sign over the title to your friend
he needs the title for cheaper registration
no title it costs more but possible
clear your name with the DMV in the states
that you sold it
your friend takes it to Onapafa or Annapromex (sp)
it will cost about $150-$200 usa and good for 10 years
these places give the new owner a "special" drivers license
to drive it and a sticker for the window
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toneart
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California has a Notice of Non-Responsibility form that is attached to the Pink Slip (The Vehicle Title). You just detach it, fill
it out and send it to the California DMV. I am assuming the State of Washington has something similar.
As for the recipient's requirements for registering the vehicle in Baja, the onus is on him/her to deal with it. Fill out the Pink Slip and give it to
him/her along with the vehicle registration. You are off the hook.
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grace59
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Thanks for the replies. I will check our title for the truck and see if we have a Non-responsibility form on it. If not I will ask the DMV about it.
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grace59
Thanks for the replies. I will check our title for the truck and see if we have a Non-responsibility form on it. If not I will ask the DMV about it.
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When filling out the form, don't let an absence of details stop the procedure. I've given away a half dozen cars to friends and some don't even know
their own address. Just make up the details. Nobody checks.
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Bob and Susan
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http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/420062.pdf
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grace59
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Thanks Bob and Susan, That makes things so easy! There are so many helpful people on this forum.
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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MitchMan
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This is incredible. Recently, there were several threads that dealt with getting rid of a USA plated vehicle in Baja. Bottom line, it was pretty
impossible to do this legally without first nationalizing the car in Mexico(legally with regard to Mexican law). I tried to junk my California plated
truck in La Paz because it stopped working altogether, but the junk yard would not take it because it was illegal for them to take a USA plated
vehcile under any circumstances... and their junk yard gets checked every 3 months for such illegal vehicle possession.
BTW, taking care of absolving yourself of legal liability with the USA state of registration is never a problem. Just fill out the required form and
deliver it to your respective DMV and that's all. The issue is absolving yourself from Mexican liability in Mexico and as far as I can tell, there is
no such mechanism by which to do that for a USA plated car.
And now, here in this thread, they are saying that all you have to do is sign over the pink slip to a new Mexican owner? There is a major, major
disconnect here.
[Edited on 4-29-2010 by MitchMan]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
And now, here in this thread, they are saying that all you have to do is sign over the pink slip to a new Mexican owner? There is a major, major
disconnect here.
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As I recall, Mitch, you got advice which ran the gamut from "park it on the sidewalk" to "go through all the bullcrap to do it legally"...whatever
that means.
If you choose to listen to the faction here who are afraid to leave their house because they may be breaking a law, you won't get anything done.
You know what I mean. 
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MitchMan
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Dennis, I know what you mean. I think that I will just have go with the flow and "get 'er done".
I was just worried about junking my suv at a local junk yard for parts, but having a Mexican buy it, fix it, use it on the baja highways, cause a
fatal accident or use it in some heinous crime, having the police look up the vin number of the suv thru the Calif DMV, trace it back to me (the one
with the deep pockets, comparatively speaking), and show up at my baja residence and haul me off to jail and confiscate the house because of my being
the one who is now and for the rest of my natural life still legally liable for the vehicle pursuant to Mexican law.
That is possible, but very, very, very unlikely to happen. Nothing to really worry about in the real world. People get killed on the highway all the
time, every day, but I still drive everyday. Planes crash from time to time, but I still fly. My neighbor told me two people died last year in my
neighborhood from dengue fever, but I still walk around at night with short sleeve shirts letting the potentially lethal mosquitos feast on my arms.
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Mulegena
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We've sold or given away six vehicles while here in Baja, each a unique transaction, none done "quite right" perhaps but all to the satisfaction of
local authority, apparently.
"Chocolate" is a slang term which means a car which is in someone's possession and regular usage, I think. It does not have legal status. I get the
impression that the government is not allowing Chocolates so much these days, requiring the possessor of the car to register it in some fashion,
thereby making it legal.
We bought a business which came with an old funky truck as part of the deal. The truck was never in our name nor that of the previous "owner". It was
a Chocolate. We didn't want the truck after Hurricane John and sold it giving a signed written bill of sale to the new Mexican owner. Its been a few
years, the same guy drives the truck; we always wave at each other. Don't know if he's ever registered it.
We've sold two others cars to the mechanic rather than do the repairs: one a legally registered Mexican vehicle; the other another Chocolate.
I owned great little car that ended up on my fence, drowned in the flood of Hurricane John. I sold it to the same family who bought the truck. I gave
them a handwritten bill of sale and my California pink slip. I mailed the non-responsibility form to the DMV. They registered the car and have since
sold it. Three and a half years later and its still running around town.
Sold a boat and Pathfinder the same way as above.
There've been several vehicles pass through our hands while in Baja. The expectation is that we give a signed and dated bill of sale as a part of the
transaction.
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rts551
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A lot of interesting answers. I believe it is still a requirement to leave a deposit on your car when traveling to Mexico Mainland. This guarantees
you will bring back out of Mexico.
We don't do this in Baja because it is declared free of that requirement. But does the law still exist requiring the vehicle to be brought back to
the US when taken into Baja by a visitor?
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
... does the law still exist requiring the vehicle to be brought back to the US when taken into Baja by a visitor? |
Don't know.
Never heard of this.
Who's checking?
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rts551
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17 miles below the mainland border there is a checkpoint on all major hwys where you must bond you vehicle with a credit card. upon returning you get
your bond back
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rts551
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This is from 1998 and some of the rules have changed... To what I am not sure
http://www.cavetexas.org/mexico/mextips.html
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grace59
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
17 miles below the mainland border there is a checkpoint on all major hwys where you must bond you vehicle with a credit card. upon returning you get
your bond back |
Have never had this happen anywhere I have driven in Baja.
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
17 miles below the mainland border there is a checkpoint on all major hwys where you must bond you vehicle with a credit card. upon returning you get
your bond back |
I have been through the checkpoint at Caborca in Sonora 4-5 years ago and there was no bond. You must pay for your TIP with a credit card but that is
all. Haven't heard of it being any different since then.
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DENNIS
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I haven't heard anyone talk of the bond lately, but I thought it was still happening.
Ask Hook. He lives over there. He'll know.
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