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CortezBlue
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1988 ford bronco on the sand?
I have the option to buy an 88 Bronco (full size) that only has 38000 miles on it
It was used by my friends dad for his private plane hanger
Do you off roaders think it will do ok on the San feline beaches
I mainly use it to drive down the beach no romping
I am concerned it is to heavy
What do you think?
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bajalou
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I have a 93 full size Bronco that I use in the San Felipe area. With the right tires and inflation you should have no problems.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
I have a 93 full size Bronco that I use in the San Felipe area. With the right tires and inflation you should have no problems.
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Ok I am putting new bf goodrich mud tires on it tomorrow
What air pressure
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irenemm
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Dang
I have a 1988 Ford Eddie Bauer full size. I love that thing. It has over 350,000 miles on it. All baja miles. It was never to heavy to go on the sand
in Vicente Guerrero. Is the sand in San Felipe different than ours? I think your is softer and finer. don't really know never been to San Felipe
Good Luck that thing is like new. Is that original miles?
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bajalou
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Tires at least 10.5 wide. I run about 25 lbs most of the time but on the soft sand sometimes drop to 15. You want higher pressure getting here, then
adjust for the terrain you are driving on.
I don't do much beach driving but the sand in the washes to the west can be as bad or worse than any beach.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
Dang
I have a 1988 Ford Eddie Bauer full size. I love that thing. It has over 350,000 miles on it. All baja miles. It was never to heavy to go on the sand
in Vicente Guerrero. Is the sand in San Felipe different than ours? I think your is softer and finer. don't really know never been to San Felipe
Good Luck that thing is like new. Is that original miles? |
Yes it was in cedar city ut at my buddies dads hanger
He would fly in and use it to drive around while in cedar city and then out it in his hanger when he flew home
He bought it new in 88 from lake haves az in his Corp name
In 1995 he had 7900 miles on it and transferred the title from his company to his personal name. The state of Utah put 79000 miles on the paperwork,
however by the time they figurednit out it was years later. But he gave me all of the receipts for maint that makes the numbers work
He'll I was happy that it was 13200
Sorry for the long answer
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dtbushpilot
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Mud tires don't work well in sand, a less agressive tread pattern would be better.....dt
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
I have a 93 full size Bronco that I use in the San Felipe area. With the right tires and inflation you should have no problems.
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Ok I am putting new bf goodrich mud tires on it tomorrow
What air pressure |
I run a full size bronco off road too with rancho lift, 4 barrel edlebrock carb, MSD, 3 inch dual edelbrock exhaust with a few other motor adjustments
and it works very well in all conditions.
I have found typical air pressure is about 25-35lbs street and 16-20lb for sand. It will be fine with street pressure in the sand, though you end up
wasting a lot power spinning tires for nothing. On the street, 35lbs is nice but its just a long way to go down for the sand and also the BF Goodrich
TA will blow up upwards of 35lbs for unexplained reasons off roading. So I leave it at 25lbs on the high side and about 17-18lbs on the low side
unless you have problems in the sand or you plan a long street trip.
While I think the BF Goodrich mud is good looking I think you are wasting your money at $240/each or so, the side walls get no use, its all show and
money, where you would benefit from a more proven industrial off road tire with less aggressive tread. The Bf Goodrich Baja is better overall though
they $400/each. You are going to want 6 tires or so-probably two spares.
Big is nice, 33 inch or so but its a lot of money and spares cost a lot too and take up room. You should put on the smallest tire you can be
comfortable with in order to save money, save room and you'll find they work better overall on street and the dirt and sand. also your friends and
family will get tired of climbing up to get in with huge tires and sometimes grandma can't climb up. Believe me after you blow two of those brand new
big mud tires and need to buy two more you'll realize it was a waste. Plus two huge spares takes up space.
BTW I removed the crappy spare tire holder on the back as it gets in the way and rattles, you'll prefer to have the rear door open easily for a seat
and its better for the spares to inside and bolted down or mounted better. Plus you'll need a huge jack and chains or tow ropes and it all has to be
bolted down and accessible cause you'll be helping others and yourself.
Also, remove the box between the front seats, takes up space you need for gear and coolers and dogs.
[Edited on 5-18-2010 by gnukid]
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CortezBlue
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WOw good info
I have a friend who is getting me the BF tires for 145 each. I am going with 31 inch, the same as what is standard on there now.
I was trying to find a cooler for the center box between the seats. I even thought about trying ti glue up some styro foam panels and line the box
and use the plastic cooler packs
Thanks for the update and info
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
WOw good info
I have a friend who is getting me the BF tires for 145 each. I am going with 31 inch, the same as what is standard on there now.
I was trying to find a cooler for the center box between the seats. I even thought about trying ti glue up some styro foam panels and line the box
and use the plastic cooler packs
Thanks for the update and info |
Yeah I still run 31s but it's pretty high for grandma with a six inch lift. Without the center box its huge and you can put things behind the seats
easily. A cooler fits right in the center. I took out the seats and put down a rubber mat through the whole interior so I can hose the sand out easy
once a year. What's also surprising is without the back seat the bed is more than 7 feet and perfect for a full size bed if you need to camp inside. A
well built rack and a trailer hitch rack expands the space very nice. When you're ready let's race.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by irenemm
I think your (sand) is softer and finer.
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The finer the sand the harder it packs down and provides support. It's the coarse sand that will give you the most trouble.
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irenemm
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Thank you Skipjack joe I did not know that.
Irene
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Russ
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Send pics of your new baby. I sounds like a terrific car for Baja. If it's gonna be on the beach a lot you may want an under coating. I like the BFG
KO's too. I've had them on all my rigs down here. They air down really well. Get a Good compressor too. Oh  It will be a car the Mexicans would really love. Be ready for a lot of offers and theft protection
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I have the option to buy an 88 Bronco (full size) that only has 38000 miles on it
It was used by my friends dad for his private plane hanger
Do you off roaders think it will do ok on the San feline beaches
I mainly use it to drive down the beach no romping
I am concerned it is to heavy
What do you think? |
Such a deal... have fun... just got one with 213,000 and it is running like champ... great little unit... gave a jump start to a brand new Tacoma
yesterday outside the bar my wife and I were giving money to...... 
Think its ready for another 213,000 with no problems... just love old beat up cars... can't lose with them in my book, unless one gets really
lucky.... like you just did...
How about some pictures... would love to see one in such good shape... 
[Edited on 5-18-2010 by wessongroup]
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David K
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I have been four wheeling the beaches below San Felipe since I could drive, and before with my parents...
Mud terrain and 3 ply sidewall tires act like 'grave diggers' in sand and will require extra deflating compared to all terrain or highway tires with
smoother tread patterns.
The goal is to float on top, and not to dig in. 10-15 psi is what should be your target pressure... with closer to 10 with a mud tire. Use High Range
4WD (low range will dig into the sand)... keep momentum up, avoid sudden turns or sudden braking to stop... do all that gradually and avoid digging
in.
The beaches around San Felipe are steep, so when you want to park on the sand, choose a downhill position... or level if it is high tide... Avoid
uphill starts.
IF you do bog down (get stuck), do not spin the tires... once forward movement stops, then downward movement begins! Get out, clear away built up sand
from the tires, LET MORE AIR OUT! You need a good gauge, a dial type that reads 0-60 psi to accurately see presure at or below 10 psi. I have gone
down to 8 psi in my 16" truck tires to get out. Have a tire pump to re-inflate once you are off the beach... Tienda Baja Nomad, Harbor Freight, Costco
are some places to get the fast pumps that clip directly onto the battery for power. The cigarette lighter pumps are very slow.
Have fun!
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I have used BFG Mud terrains on Baja beaches (Pacific side) on a full size and well loaded truck with no problem. I have stauns deflators which take
the pressure to 15psi. Once I get back to the street, I have one of the pumps David K mentioned.
[Edited on 5-18-2010 by Cyanide41]
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Send pics of your new baby. I sounds like a terrific car for Baja. If it's gonna be on the beach a lot you may want an under coating. I like the BFG
KO's too. I've had them on all my rigs down here. They air down really well. Get a Good compressor too. Oh It will be a car the Mexicans would really love. Be ready for a lot of offers and theft protection |
Russ, great point.. have had four offers on mine.. in two weeks.. this one guy said, "its got real bumpers... not plastic... made me laugh..
Going to keep mine mostly on roads... but, have tried out the 4 x 4, pretty cool.. never had one before and I'm having a ball...
Thanks for all the good info ... on beach driving.. one never can tell where it might come in handy...
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David K
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Cortez, here is Mexray's Ford Bronco on Shell Island when we had the 2004 Matomi Gang Reunion...
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BajaWarrior
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Air down and you can go anywhere, even tow. The pickup has 33" BFG KO's with about 6 pounds all the time and the 4Runner has 32" BFG KO's with 8
pounds of air.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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CortezBlue
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Lots of good stuff
I am feeling better about it.
I bought the Bronco and it is going to my buddies shop tomorrow to get new tires and the brake rotors turned and all of the standard fluid checks for
oil, fuel filter, tran fluid and cooling system as well as belts etc.
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