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I admire her temerity as well!! But really she never mentioned to form a paramilitary group. That is complete BS from local newspaper. Reality is that
she is the only one willing to suggest something against rampant corruption and extorsions. Tourism is still down 50% mostly because of that.
From today El Sudcaliforniano
La Paz
Investigan a supuestos grupos paramilitares en Los Cabos
El Sudcaliforniano
22 de mayo de 2010
Aracely Hernández Flores
La Paz, Baja California Sur.- La Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional (SEDENA) como el Instituto Nacional de Migración (INM) investigará los supuestos
grupos de milicia y/o policía conformados por extranjeros en Los Cabos, quienes según tienen el objetivo de "vigilar" las acciones de gobierno en sus
tres niveles como a los policías y autoridades que, según Carrie Duncan, extorsionan a los turistas extranjeros.
"The government is the problema" es una de las frases escritas por puño y letra de la estadounidense en la publicación de GRINGO Gazette del 29 de
marzo de 2010, "The law is the problema", habla sobre las extorsiones de que son objeto por parte de la Policía Federal Preventiva, sobre los meseros,
policías preventivos y diversas autoridades y propone un programa de vigilantes para defenderse de los ataques y abusos de autoridad mexicana.
Ante esto, autoridades de migración advirtieron que van a confirmar el estatus migratorio de Carrie Duncan así como los antecedentes, ya que la
extranjera fue deportada el 14 de febrero de 2002, igualmente por publicar artículos contra autoridades migratorias, según parece.
Si bien es cierto, que la libertad de expresión es universal, también es cierto que las aseveraciones contra la PFP, policía preventiva y agentes del
Ministerio Público deberán estar sustentados con denuncias respectivas de los afectados, fechas y horas precisas.
Ante la supuesta creación de una policía alterna y/o milicia que se conformó para vigilar las acciones de las autoridades en sus tres niveles de
gobierno, tomando en cuenta que la PFP es de orden federal, la preventiva es competencia municipal y los ministeriales son de orden estatal, las
aseveraciones de Carrie Duncan contra nuestras autoridades están siendo investigadas también, según informa la SEDENA así como Migración.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Floatflyer
What a contrast between countries. You can get deported for voicing your political opinion in Mexico is you are not a citizen but if you are illegal
in the US not only can you have mass demonstrations but can get tons of $$ for "entitlements"!
If we legal Mexican residents were treated half as good as the illegals in the US with translators, free health care, etc, there might be a rush
across the border south. Wonder how the Mexican government would like that???
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Yes, things are different, some for better, some for worst, but i wouldn't go as far as saying they have it better over there. Any american can come
here and get a visa in no time with no problems, even for a business that a Mexican can do. So thats a huge advantage on the Mexican side.
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JESSE
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Like i said, if most Mexicans in the area could read her stuff, she wouldn't be here. |
No, what you mean is if the Mexicans IN CONTROL OF GOVT AND THE POLICE could read her stuff, she wouldnt be here.
The average Mexican, who is more subjected to the corruption of the govt and police force in Cabo, would probably agree with much that she writes
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No your wrong, the Mexicans that i know, that speak english, don't care much about Duncan. And its not the goverment criticism that they don't care
for (on that i think we all agree with her), but its the little comment here and there, the little words he uses to describe the way Mexicans work
here, the way things are done here. She stops short of saying lazy, stupid, uneducated, but we get the point.
I am not from southern baja myself, things are done differently here, a hell of a lot slower than in the north, i am also very frustated with the way
the locals do tings, but this is THEIR state, and i think it would be rude at the very least from my part, to speak bad about my guests. I consider
her comments sometimes, very very rude.
Oh and the goverment and police, they read their stuff all the time.
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The newspaper story is bullchit, who ever did that, really wanted the non english spaking Mexicans to get to know Duncan and her writtings. And now
everybody is speaking about her, the problem is that old comments are coming out and shes not getting any simpathy from locals.
Mexicans in general have always been afraid of having problems with any press, since the press was always a tool for goverment and it was used as a
way to attack goverment enemies. Duncan does not get as much direct criticism from Mexicans in cabo, because of this traditional fear. But i know many
that have businesses, and in private, do not care much about her.
I personally could care less about what happens, but i do hope she listens to this long time goverment critic and understand that shes getting into
some serious trouble. We citizens of Baja are working hard to criticise the goverment, to expose things, and to improve things even if it means a
change of goverment, we do this sometimes with a risk to our businesses.
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Jesse, She's "Getting into some serious trouble." That happens to people who speak out against thuggish govts.  The US is trending towards the the same. But we're
gonna reverse that trend in Nov.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Jesse, She's "Getting into some serious trouble." That happens to people who speak out against thuggish govts. The US is trending towards the the same. But we're
gonna reverse that trend in Nov. |
We already reversed that trend in November of 2008 --- still a long ways to go to undo the damage done, but workin on it. 
But I will agree that it sounds like she is possibly headed for serious trouble.
BTW, Jesse, if you would feel free to comment, would you characterize the Mexican Government as thuggish?
[Edited on 5-22-2010 by DianaT]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Jesse, She's "Getting into some serious trouble." That happens to people who speak out against thuggish govts. The US is trending towards the the same. But we're
gonna reverse that trend in Nov. |
compare cheney to biden. which one is thuggiest?
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Thuggish Dangers
While I haven't been following the "Duncan Do Nuts" saga closely, its lengthy continuation would seem to put the lie to the "theory" that the Big Bad
Corrupt Government can (and will) deal at will with such things.
After all, how difficult would it be for an oppressive bunch of Thugs with easy access to a variety of resources to simply "disappear" the problem or
have them be the unfortunate victim of a Cartel Drug war that kills ordinary citizens all the time ?
That it hasn't happened is interesting.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
While I haven't been following the "Duncan Do Nuts" saga closely, its lengthy continuation would seem to put the lie to the "theory" that the Big Bad
Corrupt Government can (and will) deal at will with such things.
After all, how difficult would it be for an oppressive bunch of Thugs with easy access to a variety of resources to simply "disappear" the problem or
have them be the unfortunate victim of a Cartel Drug war that kills ordinary citizens all the time ?
That it hasn't happened is interesting. |
Does not seem that it would be that difficult for her to disappear.
[Edited on 5-22-2010 by DianaT]
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Cypress
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Daina T. and mtgoat666, The phrase "stuck on stupid" comes to mind. Some folks can be just as dumb as they want to be.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Jesse, She's "Getting into some serious trouble." That happens to people who speak out against thuggish govts. The US is trending towards the the same. But we're
gonna reverse that trend in Nov. |
BTW, Jesse, if you would feel free to comment, would you characterize the Mexican Government as thuggish?
[Edited on 5-22-2010 by DianaT] |
Not at all, we are pretty much free to say and do what we please about the feds, but you have to be careful with the state goverment, they are still
stuck in the 1980's.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Jesse, She's "Getting into some serious trouble." That happens to people who speak out against thuggish govts. |
BTW, Jesse, if you would feel free to comment, would you characterize the Mexican Government as thuggish?
[Edited on 5-22-2010 by DianaT] |
Not at all, we are pretty much free to say and do what we please about the feds, but you have to be careful with the state goverment, they are still
stuck in the 1980's. |
Thank you Jesse. Wonder who will be the winner in the next state elections----as always, should be interesting to follow.
[Edited on 5-22-2010 by DianaT]
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After perusing these pages for several months, it is clear which side of the political debate most of the writers are on. It is also clear that the
editor is being " set up" by someone with whom they have offended because their politics are different. I see that the hostility, myopic views and
prejudice that are all too evident in the States are alive and well here in Paradise.
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In fact, the editor of the Gringo Gazette is David Flores, who is a Mexican national. Duncan, on the other hand, was allegedly deported the first time
for running a business without having an FM-3. Don't know if she was doing business on a tourist visa, or no visa at all. Her deportation in 2002 was
actually a political hatchet job, inasmuch as her paper had a running feud with developers on the East Cape. Sort of like Al Capone going to jail for
tax evasion.
http://www.loszacatitos.net/history/gringogazette/images/baj...
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Was the Gringo Gazette in Ensenada in the 80's? I remember it having some trouble and then I did not hear about it anymore.
Does any one remember?
It did have problems there too.
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Learn Something Every Day ?
A Hatchet Job ?
Does that mean that AL really DID pay his taxes ?
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Ohhh Puhhleeze! Let's Get Real
Carrie Duncan is an avaricious, scheming carpetbagger whose only agenda is to advance her own interests.
Granted, she is very skillful at stirring the pot with a little truth and a lot of innuendo, creating a stew that will get the gringos agitated.
Some of my memorable quotes from the Duncan anthology: "Those people should tell Jose to get the drinks to the table mas pronto," and this one, "My
best customers are idiotic baseball-cap-wearing mouth-breathers who drink beer for breakfast and only care about the fishing."
I could go on, but you get the drift.
This shrew only cares about corruption when it doesn't directly benefit her and her interests.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Edited because I decided to delete a recounting of her use of the "N" word in one of her editorials; I don't want to perpetuate the insult on the
internet.
[Edited on 5-23-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
[Edited on 5-23-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95
After perusing these pages for several months, it is clear which side of the political debate most of the writers are on. It is also clear that the
editor is being " set up" by someone with whom they have offended because their politics are different. I see that the hostility, myopic views and
prejudice that are all too evident in the States are alive and well here in Paradise. |
The "editor" has been asking for it for years, and its not about politics, most of what she says is fine with most people, the problem is that little
dark side she has that rears its ugly head every now and then. If it wasn't for that, she would have plenty of support from locals and americans
alike.
You can't blame anybody for her own mistakes.
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Dangerous Duncan
Well, we can't send her to see AL.
Well, maybe the Mexicans "Could".
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