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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 07:51 PM
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I would like to buy some gear to get started fishing either off the beach or from a panga in Baja. I don't want to go overboard - the just bare essentials. I'm looking for a versatile rod without getting into a full tool box full of tackle. Any suggestions on what a good starting rod and lure/bait setup would be. I am completely new to the whole thing so please be kind.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 08:27 PM


Cabela's or garage sales or tell us where you live and there may be a Nomad that will set you up in your area. Someone else will chime in with specific rods & reels.Maybe take a charter boat out and ask some of the people on the boat. Most fishermen/women have way more gear than they want. You might try the search option here too. Won't be long and you'll have to put the kids all in one room so you can have a place to play with all your fishing gear.:yes:

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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 08:33 PM


well it all depends where and when you plan to fish. I would suggest that you go out on a panga with someone that has the equipment that you would need. most of them do. pay attention to line 30, 40, or 50 lbs. what size reels and lures and so forth. then you will have a better idea of what you want to buy for yourself.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 08:44 PM


Trying to pick one rod/reel for Baja shore AND panga is like trying to play 18 holes of golf with one club, tough to do. I'll try to take a stab.

Since you're a beginner, I'm going to recommend going with spinning gear. A 7' rod rated 12-30 or 15-40lb, teamed up with a Penn 750 or 850SS, or a Shimano Baitrunner loaded with 20-25lb mono. It's a little heavy for shore but will also cover you for surface fishing out of a panga for dorado and schoolie tuna.

For lures, look at Krocodiles or Kastmasters in 1-2oz sizes as well as some Eagle Claw L118 mag bait hooks in sizes 2/0 and 4/0. Some egg singers in 1/2-1oz size, and some torpedo sinkers in 2oz and 4oz.

That's as basic as I can make it.

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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 08:47 PM


May I suggest you invest in a couple of hours of research here on Nomads.
That question has been asked dozens of times, and there are hundreds of answers.:?:
My suggestion is to type in either "fish", "tackle", "fishing gear", etc. Then print all the answers from the printable version just above the author of the post you are looking at.
Be prepared to print out a ream of paper, because in the two years I've been on this board, there's been several hundred posts on the subject.
If you are serious about what you would like to do, you would invest the time.:bounce::spingrin::bounce:




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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 09:09 PM


As previously stated it really depends on where and when you want to fish. I completely agree with the anology of trying to play 18 holes of golf with only one club. At the very least I would have to recommend two setup's - a 20# set up and a 40# set up. Penn reels have been around forever because they will last forever. Usually pretty easy to find at yard sales. Between the two, I prefer the Newells in that price range but they are not as common at yard sales. Personally I'm not a fan of spinning reels but they are an excellent way to get started and should work fine for the 20# rig coupled with a 7'-8' rod rated for 20#'s. The 8' rod should provide a little more distance on your casts from the beach. For panga fishing a good go-to reel would be a Penn 4/0 though again I prefer the Newell 533 coupled to a medium action 7' rod. If you browse Cabela's or Bass Pro Shops they typically have combination sets at very reasonable prices that will surely get you started.



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[*] posted on 6-15-2010 at 09:25 PM


I agree with Alan, you really need 2. Thinner, longer, lighter for the beach, probably a spinning combo and shorter, fatter, heavier for the boat. Bring both when you go out on a boat, you never know what you will run into out there. I wouldn't use line lighter than 20# for ocean fishing. If you can only have one go with the spinning outfit, if you go out on a boat they will provide the gear.

Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops always have good combo deals, get the best that you can afford......dt




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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 07:38 AM


You will need a min. of two outfits as DT mentioned,one thing that is never mentioned is the need for you to practice handling your stuff.

Nothing will start you off worse than a bunch of back-lashes,line tangles,learning to cast a spinning reel can be a nightmare,I would suggest finding a mentor for a start.

You will find that you will be catching more small fish than big so start with a outfit for the beach and work your way up.

Most important thing is find a mentor.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 07:54 AM


I suggest you get a copy of "The Baja Catch" by Neil Kelly and Gene Kira. The 3rd Edition was the last edition. Great Baja fishing guide with tons of usuful info.

From a surf standpoint I suggest a cheap or in-expensive rod and reel for saltwater available at any sports stores like Big 5 etc or Walmart and K mart. When you get more experience you can move up to better gear.

If you're really poor or cheap use a beer can and line.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 12:03 PM


Buy the best quality you can afford, it will last you the rest of your life.
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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 12:17 PM


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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 08:27 PM


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Buy the best quality you can afford, it will last you the rest of your life.


I would suggest stopping in at Squid Co in San Diego on your way down. Explain what you want to do and they will set you up. You can also get your Mexican fishing license there too. You will need one to fish on a panga.

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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 08:28 AM


I think you wanted to go cheaper then some of the above suggestions. I recommend Sports Authority or Big 5. You can find both setups mentioned above for a reasonable price...$80-100 per setup. If you start fishing everyday then step up to the better quality.
I bought a better rod and reel spending around $300 and promptly send it to the bottom of the deep blue!
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[*] posted on 6-17-2010 at 11:30 PM


amen to all the suggestions. as to expensive gear I'd go high on the boat/panga rod and reels and less so on the shore gear. If you are banging around on the rocks (such as Puertecitos south to Gonzaga) your gear just gets torn up no matter how careful you are. 20 lb test may seem high for shore fishing but once again, the rocks eat it up. For the most part anything you catch will be doable on an average rig. If you have to have one casting lure from shore a chrome Krocodile cant be beat...if dinner is all your after learn a dropper loop knot and bring some squid for bait and you'll catch something! For panga trolling a blue rapala and green mackerel rapala (it seems all lures of this sort in baja are "rapalas"...even if yozuris) is a good start...and a few Rebel Fastracs if trolling near shore.

If you have never fished down there or camped be prepared for the no-see-ums and coyotes (stealing your food/water at night)...don't worry about em, just be prepared!
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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 06:20 AM


TACKLE SUGGESTIONS FOR STARTING OUT
IN FISHING BAJA SALT WATER


• ONE 15 # OUTFIT FOR BAY FISHING (BASS) AND CATCHING LIVE BAIT

• ONE 25-30# OUTFIT FOR FISHING LIVE BAIT AND THROWING JIGS

• ONE 50# OUTFIT FOR FISHING BILLFISH, TUNA, DORADO, etc.

• LIVE BAIT HOOKS, MUSTAD BRAND OR SIMILAR,
APPROX. (20) EACH IN SIZES 1, 2, 2/0, 4/0, 6/0, 7/0…

• TORPEDO SINKERS; APPROX. (6) EACH IN SIZES 2 OZ, 4 OZ, 6 OZ, 8 OZ
(2) EACH IN SIZE 12 OZ

• EGG SINKERS; APPROX. (5) EACH IN SIZES 1/2 OZ, 1 OZ, 2 OZ, AND 4 OZ…………………………………………………

• LIVE BAIT RIGS; SABIKI BRAND, LUCKY JOE, OR SIMILAR;
(2) EACH WITH #6 SIZE HOOKS……………………………

• RAPALA BRAND TROLLING LURES, SIZE CD-18 ; (2) EACH IN PURPLE, (1) IN MACKEREL-GREEN/WHITE, (1) IN DORADO………

• KROCODILE LURES; 5 OZ; (1) CHROME, (1) GREEN MACKEREL
3 OZ; (1) CHROME W/PRISIM, (1) GREEN MACKEREL

• METAL JIGS, SMALL, FISH TRAP #3, IRON MAN #3, OR SIMILAR;
(4) BLUE/WHITE, (2) CHROME, (2) BLUE/CHROME

• METAL JIGS, MEDIUM, IRON MAN #5, SALAS 6X JR, OR SIMILAR;
(2) BLUE/WHITE, (2) BLUE/CHROME

• METAL JIGS, LARGE-HEAVY, SALAS 6X, TADY 45 OR SIMILAR;
(4 TOTAL) SUGGESTED COLORS: SCRAMBLED EGG, DORADO,
GREEN MACKEREL, BROWN/YELLOW

• TUNA FEATHERS FOR TROLLING- PRE-TIED WITH HOOKS & LEADER;
(2) PURPLE/BLACK, (2) MEXICAN FLAG….page 99 (Tuna Toast)

• MIRROLURE, 111MR DEEP DIVING; (1) PURPLE, (1) PINK..page 117




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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 06:42 AM


Hey, Beachbum....how much would all that cost on average???



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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:00 AM


A little heavy for a start don,t you think? Besides being a bit pricey he is new at this right,do you think he will be able to handle all this stuff:rolleyes:

Find a mentor to assist,start small you might find that you don,t like it then what?
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[*] posted on 6-19-2010 at 06:16 PM


A surf/shore casting rig, long rod and spin reel to match. It'll get you there. Off shore? Unless you haul a boat with you or charter one you'll be fishing from the beach. :D
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[*] posted on 6-19-2010 at 07:40 PM


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A surf/shore casting rig, long rod and spin reel to match. It'll get you there. Off shore? Unless you haul a boat with you or charter one you'll be fishing from the beach. :D



This is good advice...

however you'll still need lures to cast off the beach. bring lots...you will lose them fast...especially as a beginner.

Most panga's catering to sportfishermen have all the tackle you'll need. And you'll learn alot if you pay attention and you'll see firsthand what gear is needed if you wish to pursue the sport.




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[*] posted on 6-19-2010 at 10:13 PM


Thanks all! Yea that last back there was a biggin. I definitely want to keep it simple. I think I'd just be on the shore for the most part. Just lookin for some dinner. This is great advice everyone. I'm interested in something that would last but yea... definitely want to EASE into it.
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