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cjesme
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Personal Gun in Baja
Does anyone have a handgun at home for protection?
Or, Definitely NOT!
Carlita and Esteban
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noproblemo2
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DEFINITELY NOT, but do have a flare gun for all the good it would do, thinking about a taser tho.
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motoged
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Yes, I keep a loaded (one chambered) automatic 9mm in each room of my house, one in each vehicle, and always carry a throw-away in an ankle holster.
I can't imagine leaving home without one.
Smuggling guns into Baja is so easy, I never worry every time I cross the border packing.
As for Baja, I have a number of handguns and long guns stashed around a number of locations.
How about you? Or are you just trolling?
 
Don't believe everything you think....
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DENNIS
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Good answer, Ged.
Personally, I obey the law. It says I can't have a firearm in my possesion and I know full well I can't.
That said, open my door without being asked to do so and I will end your life.
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Loretana
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handguns in Mexico
Bring your 38 in stashed on your body (or preferably on your female companion) and keep it in your bedroom.
If you were to get caught bringing it in, there is a fianza (bailbond) of around $3000.00.
I feel a lot better when I'm home in Baja alone knowing that I know how to use a firearm, and will if the situation arises.
It doesn't compare to the weapons we have legally in Oregon, but it definitely is a manstopper. 
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grace59
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Yes, I keep a loaded (one chambered) automatic 9mm in each room of my house, one in each vehicle, and always carry a throw-away in an ankle holster.
I can't imagine leaving home without one.
Smuggling guns into Baja is so easy, I never worry every time I cross the border packing.
As for Baja, I have a number of handguns and long guns stashed around a number of locations.
How about you? Or are you just trolling?
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Thanks for the laugh! I needed that!
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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Gypsy Jan
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OK, Let the Jokes Roll
But, if you are serious, here is what the rules were for Baja when we applied for a license. I do not know if the rules have changed since then or
what the law is in Baja Sur.
1. You need to be a legal resident.
2. You need to join a sporting club that involves hunting and target shooting (Club de Tira y Pesca).
3. You have to make an application to the Ministeria de Defensa and they will do a background check.
4. You need to get a letter from your government of origin attesting that you have no record of criminal conduct and this will need to be notarized,
with apostille attached and translated into Spanish by an official translator.
When we went through the process, certain guns were not allowed. What I vaguely remember is that shotguns, rifles and .38s were OK, but 9mms and any
kind of semi-automatic was not.
Once you receive your "Permission to Transport Arms", you bring the gun into the country and register it at the armory that is responsible for your
residential address.
I don't know if this has changed, but the law was that you could only purchase bullets legally from the armory, and the restriction was ten bullets
per a certain time period.
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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chippy
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Gypsy your info. from what I have learned down here is true. The only thing I think you have wrong is the caliber of a handgun. That I believe is 32
cal.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Personally, I obey the law. It says I can't have a firearm in my possesion and I know full well I can't.
That said, open my door without being asked to do so and I will end your life. |
My answer exactly...
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Gypsy Jan
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Yeah, Chippy
I was waffling about the caliber, I think that you are right.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Once you receive your "Permission to Transport Arms", you bring the gun into the country and register it at the armory that is responsible for your
residential address.
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No offense intended Jan but IMO, that's a really dumb idea.
I wouldn't want any Mexican authority to know I had a weapon.
Besides, you can buy black market cheaper than what you would pay in the States. And...no registration.
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bajabass
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 Thank you x 10!! I knew there had to be a legal way. Time to take up
sporting clays and competitive .22 plinking! Which means the 9mm and the 30-30 get exchanged for a 12ga pump and a TC .22 Fair trade.
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BillP
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
But, if you are serious, here is what the rules were for Baja when we applied for a license. I do not know if the rules have changed since then or
what the law is in Baja Sur.
1. You need to be a legal resident.
2. You need to join a sporting club that involves hunting and target shooting (Club de Tira y Pesca).
3. You have to make an application to the Ministeria de Defensa and they will do a background check.
4. You need to get a letter from your government of origin attesting that you have no record of criminal conduct and this will need to be notarized,
with apostille attached and translated into Spanish by an official translator.
When we went through the process, certain guns were not allowed. What I vaguely remember is that shotguns, rifles and .38s were OK, but 9mms and any
kind of semi-automatic was not.
Once you receive your "Permission to Transport Arms", you bring the gun into the country and register it at the armory that is responsible for your
residential address.
I don't know if this has changed, but the law was that you could only purchase bullets legally from the armory, and the restriction was ten bullets
per a certain time period. |
Jan, the regular, everyday .38 special is not legal in MX, the .38 super, which is an oddball round is legal.
When I ran Turners in the valley, we used to keep extra .38 super in stock for the Mexican residents. One who spoke excellent english explained it to
me, mexican residents could not own a gun in any caliber that the mexican govt (military, police, etc) used. The .38 super is a semi-auto round.
FWIW
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bill erhardt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Bring your 38 in stashed on your body (or preferably on your female companion) and keep it in your bedroom.
If you were to get caught bringing it in, there is a fianza (bailbond) of around $3000.00.
I feel a lot better when I'm home in Baja alone knowing that I know how to use a firearm, and will if the situation arises.
It doesn't compare to the weapons we have legally in Oregon, but it definitely is a manstopper. |
cjesme.......I assume that Loretana is speaking with tongue in cheek in encouraging you to smuggle a gun into Mexico, but if you are seriously
considering it you should be apprised that the $3,000 bond applies pretrial. Once convicted of illegal possession of a firearm in Mexico, you will go
to jail. And you would probably not like spending time in a Mexican jail.
One of the nice things about living down here is that you don't need a gun, and because of the restrictions on firearms there are not a lot of
paranoid fools walking around armed to the teeth.
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Barry A.
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Thru the years, most of the Mexicanos I came to know well (mostly on Rancheros, or in remote beach campos) had weapons (often guns)-------they just
didn't talk about them much, or expose them often.
There are a few bad people everywhere, and the police can't protect you-----they only investigate after something happens, and hopefully
prosecute------by then it can be too late (for you).
You can come to your own conclusion.
Barry
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bill erhardt
One of the nice things about living down here is that you don't need a gun, and because of the restrictions on firearms there are not a lot of
paranoid fools walking around armed to the teeth. |
I agree that I haven't encountered anybody down here with a bunker stocked with a huge arsenal but I have found that most folks who live outside the
metropolitan areas do own a gun. They just don't show it off to everybody - something different from most gun owners I have known NOB.
But don't kid yourself, they do have one. And they prefer that you don't know it...
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bajaguy
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just my 2c
For a handgun, it would be a 38 Super.....similar ballistics to a 357.
If you want a good all around weapon, try a Marlin .410 lever action:
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0074720217313a.shtml
Can shoot shot (pellets) for small game and birds, or slugs for larger 4 legged (or 2 legged) animals.
Also several loadings for personal defense:
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0070306217030a.shtml
However, I believe in pepper spray, a green laser and a kids aluminum baseball bat. That green laser can really reach out and touch someone that is
out of handgun or shotgun range.........just remember.....never, but never shine the laser in someones eyes!!!!!
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fishabductor
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Green laser? does it hurt or something?
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bajaguy
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May cause temporary or permanent blindness.......bad JU-JU for banditos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_pointer
But if you must have one.........
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013HR77S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp...
Works like a champ
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Mexicorn
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How about OC Spray?
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