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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:03 PM


How about it....works good out to about 10 feet. Have the wind behind your back....squirt and run. Although there are some people that it doesn't work on.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:08 PM


Yea but is it legal? I cant spend another night in a Mexican jail.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:11 PM


Well, nobody will know that you have it until you use it.......then hopefully, you will be about 15 miles away!!!!!!

If somebody is breaking into my place, that's the least of their worries........somebody is going to find them in a dumpster (or worse) the next morning




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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:55 PM


I have a Glock 25 that i purchsed a year ago from the Sedena store in Mexico City.



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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 12:23 AM
Be warned


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if you are seriously considering it you should be apprised that the $3,000 bond applies pretrial.


If caught with anything larger than a .32 you would legally not make bail. Even then, the chances of a gringo making bail with any unregistered weapon is very iffy.




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 12:24 AM


I realised years ago that I could use a bat, machete, fists, or whatever else was available to defend my self.....not that I'm some bad ass, just that I'm not a victim.....It's more about how you portray yourself...don't act like a potential victim and you probably won't become one.....dt

I flew Volaris from TJ to La Paz a few days ago. When I went through the line to go to the gate they made me go back to check my bag because I had a fishing reel in my carry on and it wasn't allowed. When I got to the inspector for my checked bag he looked at my tube of sun screen and the tube of pepper spray that was clipped to it.......I forgot about that.....

I told him it was sun screen.....glad he didn't try it out on me.....

[Edited on 7-15-2010 by dtbushpilot]




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 07:39 AM


A firearm will do you no good whatsoever because ninety percent of personal security issues arise through surprise or ambush. Where I live a burglar could break into my locked house, I could shoot him with a legal or illegal firearm and the ministerio publico is going to be me in a reclusorio for a year, period, end of subject.

Purchase a professional grade plastic bottle sprayer at home depot or lowe's. When you get to Mexico purchase seveal cans of Chilies Escabeches (pickled chilies). La Castilla is a good spicy brand. Filter the drainings through a tea strainer or plastic strainer sold at any ferreteria in Mexico. Dump the juice into the spray bottle and adjust the spray to the narrowest stream. You can also do this with a child's water gun pump or other toy. You can also prepare your own mix of spray liquid by boiling a handful of HABANERO chilies in a liter of water for fifteen minutes, allow to cool then filter the liquid into the sprayer. Add just a dash of liquid dish soap for wetting action. This preparation works excellent on dogs and humans. If threatened, aim for the eyes, but bear in mind this stuff can damage the eyes.

If you are worried about security issues at night, a hanfull of marbles placed on the floor near point of suspected entry works wonders.

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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 08:59 AM


All well and good but the overwhelming concern for most around these parts isn't home invasion. Discussion of personal protection among friends, Mexican and Gringo alike all revolves around concealed carry.

My home is well protected by Mr. Louisville Slugger.




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:07 AM


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but it (a .38) definitely is a manstopper. :dudette:


Actually, if I remember my firearm history correctly, the 45 was developed precisely because the 38 wasn't a manstopper--at least among those drug-crazed muslims who were such a problem to the invading English army. While the 38 did cause mortal wounds, it didn't blow the "aggresors" back so that they were still able to do bodily harm with their swords and knives.

Bottom line, if you live where all those drugged up hippies Skeet is always ranting about hang out, you might want to up it to a 45, just in case.
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:26 AM


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Originally posted by Dave
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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Once you receive your "Permission to Transport Arms", you bring the gun into the country and register it at the armory that is responsible for your residential address.


No offense intended Jan but IMO, that's a really dumb idea.


Dave
Just to clarify, Gypsy Jan was responding to a request for information by stating what the laws of the land are. There weren't any "dumb ideas" of hers expressed, but rather, as Joe Friday use to say, "nothing but the facts," other than her swag (scientific wild-assed guess--for non-Navy people) of the caliber involved.
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:45 AM


I have a spear gun, a high powered 22 cal air rifle that will shoot thru 3/4" plywood at 30 yds, 3 machetes, a 12oz can of bear mace that shoots 25' and has a 12' diameter and dyes what ever it hits bright orange, a flare pistol, a hictory ax handle as well as other items hidden around the house. I also have 4 dogs.

I was robbed last year, house was emptied. Now that I have an infant son, I am prepared for war!!

[Edited on 7-15-2010 by fishabductor]
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:48 AM


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I have a high powered 22 cal air rifle


I, for some reason, thought .22s were not allowed. They sell the .177 in the stores here, but I've yet to see a .22.
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:51 AM


I bought mine in San Jose del Cabo, they are definately legal. I am getting ready to buy another 22cal air rifle that runs off compressed air charged out of ascuba tank. It has 6 shots and the average speed is about 1200ft/s. They are however expensive at around $1000usd for the setup.


Here is a link to a Mexican airgun dealer.
http://www.co2airgunsmexico.com.mx/

I am looking at something similar to the Evanix AR6. however the AF condor is a hell of a rifle!!


[Edited on 7-15-2010 by fishabductor]
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:57 AM


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Actually, if I remember my firearm history correctly, the 45 was developed precisely because the 38 wasn't a manstopper--at least among those drug-crazed muslims who were such a problem to the invading English army. While the 38 did cause mortal wounds, it didn't blow the "aggresors" back so that they were still able to do bodily harm with their swords and knives.


IMO, handgun choice should be based on shooter accuracy. If on target, a .38 gets the job done.




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 09:58 AM


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Bottom line, if you live where all those drugged up hippies Skeet is always ranting about hang out, you might want to up it to a 45, just in case.


I would feel a whole lot safer with a bunch of stoned hippies than Skeet by the sounds of him recently:lol:

Seems like it is okay to tease him about his drinking, but not comparing him to a tweaker (person obsessed).....wtf is that about ?




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 10:14 AM


This looks like fun. Legal or not, don't get caught with it:

http://tinyurl.com/26x8fv4
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 10:16 AM


We can start carrying firearms into Mexico?

YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 10:21 AM


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This looks like fun. Legal or not, don't get caught with it:

http://tinyurl.com/26x8fv4


That is not legal...CO2 charged guns for some reason are not legal...But air charged guns are???? go figure.

I can't figure out why the mexico airgun site is called co2airguns mexico?
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 10:44 AM
IF


For Anyone who makes the choice to possess a self-defense handgun without legal documentation in Mexico, the MOST important thing you can do is make sure it is one with absolutely NO Paper Trail back to you.

Keep it secret, even from friends. Determine to use it ONLY in a necessary self-defense situation where the alternative would be a lot worse. It's not a magic-wand. Don't wave it around expecting awe and compliance. Never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. IF you have to use it, aim for greatest effect, especially with the light rounds you're likely to have available. If the privacy of the situation permits, immediately dispose of the "untraceable" weapon, dispose of any clothing that might retain residue and thoroughly scrub any exposed skin with Gasoline. You can always claim to have been working on your car. Get out of the area without attracting attention. Keep your mouth shut. Don't tell ANYBODY who wasn't there. Not your spouse and not your friends. Like Tony Soprano said, "You Never Admit to Nothing".

Since I don't spend time anymore exploring the wilds of Baja and am concerned mostly with home defense, I'm one of those who find the risk outweighs the likely benefit. Around home, I've got a Flare Gun, a Machete, Numerous Combat knives and Baseball Bats. Also, get a roll of Duct Tape to tape one of those knives to your fighting hand. Not an original idea, but effective.

In the U.S., where it's legal of course, I'm up to my Rump in Weaponry spread all over the place. Any home-invasion burglar is unlikely to leave alive. It sometimes puts off the salesmen who come to the door to be greeted with a pistol, but it adds to the rep. Doesn't seem to affect the Jehovah's, though. They never give up.
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 11:18 AM


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For Anyone who makes the choice to possess a self-defense handgun without legal documentation in Mexico, the MOST important thing you can do is make sure it is one with absolutely NO Paper Trail back to you.

Keep it secret, even from friends. Determine to use it ONLY in a necessary self-defense situation where the alternative would be a lot worse. It's not a magic-wand. Don't wave it around expecting awe and compliance. Never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. IF you have to use it, aim for greatest effect, especially with the light rounds you're likely to have available. If the privacy of the situation permits, immediately dispose of the "untraceable" weapon, dispose of any clothing that might retain residue and thoroughly scrub any exposed skin with Gasoline. You can always claim to have been working on your car. Get out of the area without attracting attention. Keep your mouth shut. Don't tell ANYBODY who wasn't there. Not your spouse and not your friends. Like Tony Soprano said, "You Never Admit to Nothing".



Excellent advice. But you didn't hear it from me...

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