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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 01:48 PM
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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 02:30 PM


No firearms really needed. I keep a sharpened machete in the garage for weed clearing, six dogs that bark like the dickens, a small stun-gun in the car door panel for driving (new since the last carjack attempt), and very sharp chef's knife set in the kitchen. We have several cans of long-distance wasp spray, although I've never seen a wasp here that had wings. A few dummy cameras outside and an security alarm help.

Don't know if any existing law covers TASERS here yet. They fire nitrogen-charged projectiles, but each cartridge is traceable to the purchaser, unlike bullets. If you were to get caught with a TASER or a handgun, which would be worse under Mexican Law ? I would think the handgun since existing laws are clear. Anyone know?




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[*] posted on 7-15-2010 at 02:38 PM


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[*] posted on 7-16-2010 at 12:09 PM


Hello, All. I have read this thread with interest. But much of the advice about alternative means of defense (e.g., machete, baseball bat, etc.) seem to require some male muscle behind them. When I move to Baja, I'll be a lone woman, possibly in an not-very-populous area. Aside from dogs (which I'll consider getting, although my cats might not appreciate it), does anybody have any recommendations for me? (I might consider getting a gun, but I guess it would be difficult to learn to use it in Mx, and I don't think I'm inclined to buy one and/or take lessons now, in the U.S.) Thanks in advance ....:D
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[*] posted on 7-16-2010 at 12:11 PM


PS: I suppose the pepper spray alternative might be the best. Where can you buy the stuff (ready-made, please!)
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[*] posted on 7-16-2010 at 12:21 PM


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PS: I suppose the pepper spray alternative might be the best. Where can you buy the stuff (ready-made, please!)





You can buy "the stuff" at most any sporting goods or hardware stores in the US. If you are in a medium to large US city, check the phone book for a uniform supply shop, they carry the pepper (OC) spray.

For a female (or anyone for that matter), I highly recommend the green laser......just push a button.....works like a laser pointer (which it is). Great for carrying in the car (above the visor), in your pocket or purse....looks like a pen.




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[*] posted on 7-16-2010 at 12:31 PM


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Hello, All. I have read this thread with interest. But much of the advice about alternative means of defense (e.g., machete, baseball bat, etc.) seem to require some male muscle behind them.


You'd be surprised how strong you'd become if you were faced in a life-threatening situation, armed with a machete.

I may not be big, or particularly strong, but I tell you what, if someone messes with my family and I WILL hack them to bits with my machete. Guaranteed.




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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 08:26 AM


Lots of information! Thank You! The Green laser sounds good. I don't think I want to spend time in jail so the gun is out. I am not jail material!! Pepper spray and a blow horn so neighbors know whats going on. Can't wait to get down to Baja!! I'll be seeing you this Friday Keri!! Baja is now HOME!



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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 09:03 AM


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Hello, All. I have read this thread with interest. But much of the advice about alternative means of defense (e.g., machete, baseball bat, etc.) seem to require some male muscle behind them. When I move to Baja, I'll be a lone woman, possibly in an not-very-populous area. Aside from dogs (which I'll consider getting, although my cats might not appreciate it), does anybody have any recommendations for me? (I might consider getting a gun, but I guess it would be difficult to learn to use it in Mx, and I don't think I'm inclined to buy one and/or take lessons now, in the U.S.) Thanks in advance ....:D


If I still lived in the US I would obtain a suitable firearm, learn to use it, practice and carry whenever legally possible. Biggest mistake we made was not bringing the Belgian Browning with us.

No one can get on our property without great effort, tools and causing a stir. But if they do....first they have to clear the dogs, then
I've kept wasp spray for years, can of Easy Off oven cleaner also. We have flare guns, other weapons. Be creative. As so recently publicized, it doesn't take much strength for a woman with a golf club to put a guy without a gun down and then become acquainted with the working end oF a French Chef's knife. These invasions aren't typically "pros". Their young, stupid, and often not completely sober.

It all sounds a bit much? Most suggestions came from my walled in Mexican friends, some of their homes are liked armed camps.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 09:10 AM


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It all sounds a bit much? Most suggestions came from my walled in Mexican friends, some of their homes are liked armed camps.


I agree most the mexicans I know don't mess around when it comes to personal protection. The new home I am getting ready to build will be fortified, with bared windows and heavy steel doors. .

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 09:13 AM


This would be cool to have in baja. It would definately get someones attention!!

Fully auto bb gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojjFfhpHRg&feature=relat...

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 10:04 AM
Male muscle? Oh my...


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Hello, All. I have read this thread with interest. But much of the advice about alternative means of defense (e.g., machete, baseball bat, etc.) seem to require some male muscle behind them.


Agreed. It's doubtful that the average woman could swing a machete or baseball bat. Too bad.

Long distance weapons: spears, throwing spikes and hatchets, gun

Medium distance: machete, baseball bat, cat-o-nine tail, gun

Close in: knife, taser, stun gun, small caliber pistol

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 12:43 PM
Bringing the Right Gun to the Fight


When choosing a self-defense handgun, While a small-caliber choice might be unavoidable, it's worth noting that relying on a small-caliber requires accurate placement or plain old luck. It's true that many professional assassins use 22s, but they are excellent at placement.

Years ago, there was an article in Guns & Ammo describing an alcoholic encounter between a Big guy and another couple. After being threatened by the bigger guy, the other male pulled out a .380. In defense, he shot and hit twice. At which point, the person shot proceeded to beat him to death. The female picked up the .380, fired and hit multiple times without scoring a disabling shot. The drunk with multiple-wounds then killed her.

It's said about a .45 ACP that ANY hit is a disabling one. The first rule of a gunfight has been expressed as "don't bring any caliber that doesn't start with a 4". That isn't always possible or practical, especially in Mexico assuming you could get a pistol permit.

Today's self-defense ammo somewhat mitigates the small-caliber disadvantage, but many semi-autos have less than consistent performance with other than Jacketed Ball ammo. I've got two compact .380s and a 9mm that will jam "too" frequently on other than jacketed ball.

Of course, the casual user looking for last-ditch self-defense is better off with a Revolver anyway. Less to think about. Just aim center-mass and shoot until the hammer clicks on a spent round. Unless there's more than one Bad guy.

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 06:07 PM
Mr. BillM, If You Invite Me Over to Dinner


I promise to show up unarmed and with dessert.

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 07:29 PM


http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy136/micpib1/26373_13950...

I was thinking that this would be a handy tool to keep around. You could build a fence at 300 yards while sitting in your lawn chair. You never know what else it could be good for. Haha JH

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 07:42 PM


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http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy136/micpib1/26373_13950...

I was thinking that this would be a handy tool to keep around. You could build a fence at 300 yards while sitting in your lawn chair. You never know what else it could be good for. Haha JH

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May cause temporary or permanent blindness.......bad JU-JU for banditos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_pointer

But if you must have one.........

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013HR77S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp...

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[*] posted on 7-17-2010 at 09:28 PM


I own no weapon of any kind. I sleep with doors and windows wide open. Right now my truck is in my driveway, widows down to cool off. Will be all night. I do not know where the key to my front door is or even if I have one. I buried my dog, a doxie, a few years ago and never got another. I gave all my baseball bats to the kids in Asuncion. I've thought about a machete but never got around to getting one. Once thought about getting a pistol and my buddy got his out to show me his and accidentally put a round right through a $100k orchestrion (player piano) we were restoring. My ears still ring from that one.
I'm working on the theory that the gods protect the idiots and simpletons and I'm happy with that.
I do, however, keep a two-handed spey rod over-lined a couple of weights with a big a** hook on the end; I'm getting pretty good at whipping it around a post and burying that sucker in where I think the jugular would be. No sense being completely naked out there, right?
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[*] posted on 7-18-2010 at 08:59 AM


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Quote:
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It all sounds a bit much? Most suggestions came from my walled in Mexican friends, some of their homes are liked armed camps.


I agree most the mexicans I know don't mess around when it comes to personal protection. The new home I am getting ready to build will be fortified, with bared windows and heavy steel doors. .

[Edited on 7-18-2010 by fishabductor]


:?: barred windows and heavy steel doors?????? :?::?::?:

that is sad. if you need bars and walls and steel doors to feel comfortable, you need to relocate. here in san diego we have no walls or gates and have had but maybe 1 burglary in neighorhood in 5 years. it's safe, no one has bars on windows, no one worries about arming themselves,...

if you are so worried about crime in mexico, you should move back to the states. if you want to live in rural low-crime community, there are many to choose from.
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