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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 10:02 PM
The ONE ?


A Socialist made it safe to Eat your Meat ?

BUT, ONLY if that's American Meat ?

ANOTHER reason to bring your own ?




[Edited on 7-24-2010 by MrBillM]
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 09:00 AM


Interesting topic. Prior to seeing this thread, I'd never given any thought as to whether meat is allowed or not into Mexico. I've driven into BCS six times and never made any attempt to hide it. I take all kinds .... steaks, pork, chicken, lamb. I buy at my local Costco, repackage into individual servings, freeze em rock hard, then put them into a sealed cooler with dry ice. The dry ice lasts 3 days, enough to get me to a freezer in BCS. My most recent trip was for 6 weeks, and I had plenty of meat, etc. for the whole time there.

Heading south, the only question I've ever gotten at the GN ag checkpoint has been about fruits or veggies, and they only asked that question on 2 of the 6 trips. They always seem intent on getting the 10 pesos for the under spray and passing me on through quickly. Twice, no one was even there.

As for the dog/cat food and litter situation going north ... my last trip through border agent station at San Ysidro I had a cat and a dog in the truck, both very visable to the agent, and I had no issue. Not even a question was raised, and yes, I had both food (kibble) and litter (cat) for my pets.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 09:11 AM


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Just an example of an over-bearing government robbing us of basic freedoms... like to eat healthy meat!


dk: your belly is an indication that you are exercising your freedoms :lol:
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 09:15 AM


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As for the dog/cat food and litter situation going north ... my last trip through border agent station at San Ysidro I had a cat and a dog in the truck, both very visable to the agent, and I had no issue. Not even a question was raised, and yes, I had both food (kibble) and litter (cat) for my pets.



They won't usually ask about pet food, but if they see it, they'll take it.
Then again, your experience is a good example of the inconsistancies your tax dollars pay for.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 09:44 AM


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As for the dog/cat food and litter situation going north ... my last trip through border agent station at San Ysidro I had a cat and a dog in the truck, both very visable to the agent, and I had no issue. Not even a question was raised, and yes, I had both food (kibble) and litter (cat) for my pets.



They won't usually ask about pet food, but if they see it, they'll take it.
Then again, your experience is a good example of the inconsistancies your tax dollars pay for.


I guess it is a USDA requirement
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/import_export/plants/manuals/ports...
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 09:56 AM


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"Basic freedom to eat fresh healthy meat"

Didn't you know? It's in the Bill of Rights!

:lol::lol:



It's an inalienable right. [what does that word mean, anyway?]


It means it cannot be taken away from you. :)
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 10:09 AM


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It means it cannot be taken away from you. :)


Thank you. I thought that only applied to my birthday.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 10:53 AM


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It means it cannot be taken away from you. :)


Thank you. I thought that only applied to my birthday.


Not sure about that---there is one thing that would take your birthday away----not a good alternative, however. :biggrin:

But the famous use of that fanciful phrase defining rights that do not exist, really is one of the best pieces of propaganda every written---

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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 12:14 PM


Hmmm, the Bill of Rights is "fanciful ... propaganda"? Fanciful maybe ...
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 12:37 PM


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Interesting topic. Prior to seeing this thread, I'd never given any thought as to whether meat is allowed or not into Mexico. I've driven into BCS six times and never made any attempt to hide it. I take all kinds .... steaks, pork, chicken, lamb. I buy at my local Costco, repackage into individual servings, freeze em rock hard, then put them into a sealed cooler with dry ice. The dry ice lasts 3 days, enough to get me to a freezer in BCS. My most recent trip was for 6 weeks, and I had plenty of meat, etc. for the whole time there.

Heading south, the only question I've ever gotten at the GN ag checkpoint has been about fruits or veggies, and they only asked that question on 2 of the 6 trips. They always seem intent on getting the 10 pesos for the under spray and passing me on through quickly. Twice, no one was even there.



Same here, never occurred to me that there was restrictions on meat...blissfully unaware all those times; I think I'll try and not remember this thread (Or go thru the checkpoint in the early morning or evening when they're less likely to be there...)
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:00 PM


Here, a DK ancestor makes sure Jefferson gets the spelling right - "R-I-B-E-Y ....".

signing-constitution.jpg - 46kB
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:26 PM


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Hmmm, the Bill of Rights is "fanciful ... propaganda"? Fanciful maybe ...


The preamble to the Bill of Rights talks about restricting the abuse of power. There were more than 10 Amendments proposed and the compromises that led to the acceptance of the 10 insured the ratification of the Constitution by the states.

The Bill of Rights does not talk about unalienable rights. That comes from the Declaration of Independence and it is that document that is a beautifully written document of propaganda---but it served its purpose of gaining support for the fighting that was already was occuring, and provided definition for what was happening.

Jefferson was a very excellent writer, and quite intellegent ---- not only was the Declaration of Independence full of hyperbole, and fanciful philosophy, it was addressed toward King George and he was not their problem----but if the war went the wrong way, it would be parliment who would put all of them on trial for treason, so it was better addressed to King George.

Here is that famous line----

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,

Simply take that statement apart--

Self-evident? To Whom?
Were all men created equal? Maybe, maybe not
Does the creator, whoever he/she/ or it may be grant unalienable rights? That concept did come from the Age of Reason, but certainly was not, nor is today accepted by everyone as a valid philosophy.

And Jefferson being a Unitarian with a Diest leaning, leaned toward believing that there might be supreme god, but one who created the earth like a clock maker----got it going and then stepped aside and let it run on its own.

The entire document is like that.

The preamble to the Bill of Rights is far more practical and addressed the reality that if they wanted certain rights, they needed to restrict the government.

OK, off soap box now----will stop bloviating ---opps that is one of Bill O'Reilly's favorite expressions---but right now I have a tiny bit of respect for him since he apoligized for reporting a false story. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:29 PM


I can only assume that I'm nowhere as fussy about what I eat than many of you. While I can certainly grasp the idea, especially when camping, and being able to avail oneself of dry ice NOB, it make some sense. However, we've shopped in places such as Soriana, Comex, Walmart, and CCC over the years, and never felt the need to bring our own with. Kinda seems like hauling cases of Samuel Adams down because you don't like Bohemia.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:35 PM


People in Baja are supposed to eat fresh fish. What's with all this meat stuff, anyway?
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:36 PM
WORD!


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People in Baja are supposed to eat fresh fish. What's with all this meat stuff, anyway?
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 01:45 PM


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I can only assume that I'm nowhere as fussy about what I eat than many of you. While I can certainly grasp the idea, especially when camping, and being able to avail oneself of dry ice NOB, it make some sense. However, we've shopped in places such as Soriana, Comex, Walmart, and CCC over the years, and never felt the need to bring our own with. Kinda seems like hauling cases of Samuel Adams down because you don't like Bohemia.


To reach one of those major stores in BCS we would have drive several hundred miles---except there is a Comex paint store but paint doesn't taste very good. :lol:




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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 02:02 PM


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Kinda seems like hauling cases of Samuel Adams down because you don't like Bohemia.


or because i can get a 30 pack of TKT in the U.S. for $16.99 + tax/crv AND get $6.00 back if i return a promotional flyer along with the receipt, until feb 2011.

even without the 30% discount it still is cheaper than paying +/- $1.00/can at the local tienda. Like Diane said, usually the nearest store is a 1/2 day away....... usually.




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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 02:18 PM
Savoring the Fish in Mexico


Nothing wrong with that. I have many times in the past.

Well, it tasted like Fish, anyway.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 02:36 PM


Yea, the GN boys have confiscated my food before.
Beef, chicken, pork.

Focus now....
Can anybody look up and provide the rule of Mexican law regarding importation of food into Mexico?

It's not like you see big signs or photos of confiscated food at the state border crossing, like you do at military check points of drug busts.

I just figure the boys at GN are hungry and these days my typical response to the question is, "No Fruitas, No Drugas, No Hoto's."

I smile, they laugh and they wave me along.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 03:07 PM


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Yea, the GN boys have confiscated my food before.
Beef, chicken, pork.


Unless it had a Vons or Albertsons sticker how would they know where the hell it came from?

Or is beef, chicken and pork illegal in BCS?




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