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Martyman
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Yellowtail techniques
Okay, I'm trying to learn how to catch these guys. I have some mirrolures to troll but am unsure of the speed. I have a 14 foot inflatable with a 15
horse Honda. I know you need to troll fast but at what speed? 10 knots is about where I start planing, I think. I don't have any instrumentation on
my little boat and usually fish "baja catch style". We will be fishing north of Loreto.
We will also try dropping iron and yo-yo. But where in the world are yellowtail hanging out. I caught yellowtail in BOLA before on a panga but we
were not that close to shore. Are rocky points my best bet? Any hot tips on colors and sizes for lures and iron?
I can't wait to go.
Thanks,
Martyman
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Pompano
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Jurel = Yellowtail to us gringos
Well Martyman, here's what you do:
If trolling Mirrolures do so with the lightest line you figure you can keep the big buggers on with..say 30-50 lb test...lighter the line, the
deeper and better action you will have on those Mirrolures. Also tie the lure directly to the line..no swivels or snaps..those will impede the action
considerably. Use a palomar or blood cinch knot. (check 'fishing knots' on internet if you don't know how to tie one). You can troll the 9" mirros
up to about 7-8 mph and then they start to pop. Fast troll is best..triggers a strike. Never troll a straight course...zig-zag, slow down, speed
up...changes in speed and direction will generate more strikes. Set the rod in a holder..never hold it. Set the drag semi-tight...not too
tight!..but enough to set the hooks. Look for birds diving, charter boats nearby, troll over known rocks, humps, near sharp dropoffs, you want some
kind of structure.
" 14 foot inflatable with a 15 horse Honda" is a little small for those waters...but you already know that. Be careful, it can get rough
fast. You will have to stick in close with that small a craft. Long points, underwater ledges, etc.
Your best fishing would be done with live bait. Bigeyes or green mackerel caught just before dawn. Use a 4 oz. sliding weight and a Circle
hook...free line it to the bottom...leave in free spool and set the clicker. Sit back with a Pacifico and listen for the buzzzzzzzzzz.....grab rod
and hang on! Good Luck...Bueno suerte! We are headed out manana too...also for big yellows.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Tommy A
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If you haven't alraedy, get a copy of "The Baja Catch" 3rd Edition
Here's the author's website-
http://www.bajadestinations.com
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Don Jorge
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IFP
IFP = I Follow Pangas!
That is how I learned to fish yellowtails and all the other fish in the Cortez,some 30 years ago and it is still an approved method.
First, go out a few times with a pangero in the area you want to fish. Second, watch what he does. Third, buy a cheap handheld gps, file an IFP plan,
mark the spots where they fish on your gps and have fun.
Back when I was learning there were no P-nche gps units. I tried to learn to use the landmarks the pangueros had in their heads. What a joke. I could
never figure out how they knew so many landmarks for so many spots. Hell, half of the time I couldn't even see what landmarks they were trying to
teach me! I was in awe.
Tom Millers, I think itas called, "Anglers Guide to Baja California" is a great book and does a great job covering technique.
Senor Pompano gave proven, solid advice on trolling and fishing live bait but, real men catch yellows with iron. White, white and blue, chrome and
chrome and blue are the standard colors. Use in sizes heavy enough to get to the bottom quickly. I use Salas jigs. 6x, 6x jrs, 7x and even their
bigger stuff. Big baits, big jigs catch big fish.
Current conditions dictate how heavy a lure to use. Drop to the bottom and real up as fast as you can. High speed reels loaded with 40, 50 or even 60
pound line are a must for iron fishing.
Good luck!
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
"All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.P. Box
"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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Don Jorge
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Whistler,
Indeed they do. In fact, one quickly learns when first learning to fish from your own boat, the hardest part of catching fish is finding them. Here's
a picture of our kids during a lesson on fish the men found!
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
"All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.P. Box
"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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Tommy A
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Senor Pompano gave proven, solid advice on trolling and fishing live bait but, real men catch yellows with iron
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There are lure guys and live bait people,I love to see a live bait streak form the boat and get nailed by a rooster, sierra etc. Plus fishing for bait
is fun also.
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vgabndo
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Last year north of Loreto...
the hot ticket for iron was a Tady 4/0 in Green and Yellow. The yellows had just come up and started feeding on the surface in the days after we
arrived, and my line never got to more than about a 45 degree angle before those buggers would be bruising my knees against the gunnels!!! Sort of
like yo-yoing, but without the second yo
I follow birds, and pangas too, if conditions allow it in my 16' tin boat.
T-minus 50 days and counting.....
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Pompano
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If you thought 'Grumpy Old Men' .....
was a documentary, than you are probably a died-in-the-wool fisherman like me. Baitfishing, trolling, pitching one of a 1000 irons, mooching,
yo-yo-ing, spinning, fly-lining, downrigging, jigging, surfcasting, from shoreline, boating, and once from a hot air balloon over Conception Bay
....In Baja, I do them all. Why? Like Thorieau said, "Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after."
I've been hooked since my Dad first took me catfishing by hand under the banks of the Missouri River. I was 6. The technique there was to wade along
(I swam) the bank's overhang and feel for the big cats with your hands, slide your fingers into his gillrakers and pull him out, whiskers, shaking
tail and all. Great fun..left lots of scratches on your skin..and sometimes a little bonus ride along the muddy bank. The bad part was spooking a
paddlefish...these guys got 6-7' long, were armorplated, and could bust your leg or arm in a flash. Those were great moments for a youngster and I
did the same thing with our boys and sons of friends. A mudbath while the fillets are cooking is just the ticket for kids!
Now the world is much bigger, the water is a whole lot clearer, and the catfish have been replaced by yellowtail, dorado, tuna, and a host of
other Baja catch. Thanks, Dad. You're still a part of it all..from the Missouri to Baja.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Pompano
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Mudbath boys........
Hey! anyone know where to find a good mudbath in Baja?
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Capt. George
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REAL MEN
Don't eat quiche!!!!
Real men use live bait just for the pleasure of driving a hook through them..
Real men use the long wand for self-
flaggulation.
Real men cry when they get a shot of penicilin.....
Real men sleep a lot.....
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rts551
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whistler
iron, rapala, sardinas.... Its all fun...
lets go at xmas... got 15 last year
you know where
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Capt. George
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????????????????
not without me banditos!!!!!
Vikingo
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george
sounds like the voice of experience
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george
we'll go before glen gets there and tell him al the stories
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Thanks, guys!
I don't know diddly-hoot about fishing, but this is sure an entertaining thread.
bajalera
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Capt. George
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GLENN WHO????
He'll be sleeping anyway or polishing his
long rod........or is that wand??
see you soon 15 or 19??
told Nacho 19
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rts551
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fishing with a rod is always entertaining
19th
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Don Jorge
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I'll take my tongue outa my cheek now and admit my Blackman has 2 bait tanks! Just kiddin around cuz its too muddy to plow and too windy to go to San
Clemente Island and catch some local yellows!
Keep the fish stories comin boys, I mean men.. Did I tell you the one about the 300 pound blue marlin I caught, stand up on a panga, no belt, 6/0 Penn
with staight 50 pound line, 3 hours to leader and I cried when I watched her swim away?
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
"All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.P. Box
"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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Don Jorge
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The Mexicans love our boat's name. It makes them smile and laugh, something I like to do too! Here it is docked at the Coral.
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
"All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.P. Box
"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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Pompano
Is that what they call a "Barred Pargo"?
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