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gnukid
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Just as well you may consider reading the history and background of the World Wildlife Fund for Nature and the 1001 Club founded by Prince Bernard and later headed up by Maurice Strong.
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Osprey
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I am not acquainted with Prince Bernard. I am well versed on the Fabian movement. I can still sing all the words to his hit "Turn Me Loose".
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wilderone
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gnukid - I'm sure your philosophies have much truth - but over my head, as they are entrenched within layers of other, complex, truths. I understand
what you're saying about UNESCO, but I believe serves a purpose when other intentions fall short, are weak or ineffectual. When the time comes to tip
the scales, power and authority can possibly be mustered to do so. For now, I think the area needs protection, and Mex. Govt. entities which should
do so, have come up short in this vein. Personally, I can respect a region where I can't camp, and can compromise for the greater good. I appreciate
your insight.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I am not acquainted with Prince Bernard. I am well versed on the Fabian movement. I can still sing all the words to his hit "Turn Me Loose".
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LOL. Yep, that guy could MOVE! 
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cutexianchick
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I am home, finally... wish I wasnt, now I have to unpack and go to work on Monday. We had a great time driving down and back, stayed at bob and
susan's two nights on the way back and had a great time (took the boat out).
I am looking forward to our next cabo trip possibly next July, will stay at a condo that we checked out before we left. I loved Cabo... I know some
do and some dont, but I am a cabo girl!!
Thanks so much for all your help... we got through our vacation with no problems. We got stoped on the way down in CC and let go and nothing on the
way back. We stayed and some great places that will be treasured. Our faviorte spots were San Ignacion, Mulege and Cabo (of course). Met some great
people along the way, thanks to my husband who talks alot and makes friends with the locals (i speak no spanish so I just sit and smile and laugh when
I think I am suppose to). LOL
Thanks to you all, you're all great!
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Bajahowodd
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Absolutely no need to feel embarrassed for liking Cabo. After all, most of the Hollywood crowd jets down there whenever they can. Members of this
forum come from all walks of life. There are surfers, campers, folks who live full time in Baja; some of whom even live in fairly ritzy digs, even in
Cabo.
For old- timers, there's always the nostalgia of what Cabo once was- a sleepy fishing village with a tuna cannery, when visitors were mostly fly-in
fishermen. Same can be said for Puerto Vallarta back in the day when Night of the Iguana was filmed in and about Mismaloya. Or the Mayan Riviera when
Playa Del Carmen consisted of a handful of buildings and a rickety wooden dock. It's like the old Joni Mitchell song proclaimed about paving paradise
and putting up a parking lot.
With tens of thousands of rooms, someone else must also enjoy Cabo.
The important thing is that you were able to partake of so much that Baja has to offer. You drove it. You saw soup to nuts. Sadly, too many of the
Cabo aficionados fly to SJD and take a limo. It's their loss.
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Bob and Susan
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yea that boat is getting a workout...
i just launched it again at 6pm
the guests that came right behind you are going for a "night cruise" to annas restaruant at santispac
fun fun fun
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
gnukid - I'm sure your philosophies have much truth - but over my head, as they are entrenched within layers of other, complex, truths. I understand
what you're saying about UNESCO, but I believe serves a purpose when other intentions fall short, are weak or ineffectual. When the time comes to tip
the scales, power and authority can possibly be mustered to do so. For now, I think the area needs protection, and Mex. Govt. entities which should
do so, have come up short in this vein. Personally, I can respect a region where I can't camp, and can compromise for the greater good. I appreciate
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The impulse to protect is absolutely imperative, individuals have a huge impact on education and can affect the region as did the Nomad here who made
a specific effort. It worked perfectly.
In regard to UNESCO, we all support the false marketing message, though certainly not the true history of eugenics or world evolutionary humanism, nor Wildlife Fund for Nature.
You can do the research, I certainly do not need to break it down. Though I am interested in history and I find the stories quite interesting and
enlightening. I have easily found myself a volunteer and supporter of these two groups in the past, now I am not. Instead of falling for marketing we
should stick to our goals, stick to ourselves and not expect a foreign corrupt entity to do our community work. More so, we can research the entities
who claim to be something and find out they are not, it's well documented.
For example, it's well noted that UNESCO was founded and sponsored under the Lucifer Trust which was led by Alice Bailey. The first president was Julian Huxley. The outlined goals are Eugenics-that is culling populations of less valuable people and encouraging bio-engineering a better common
human being under a global imperial empire, previously known as the Crown now it is called whatever they call it, NWO Global Governance, it is
neither.
The World Wildlife Fund for Nature aka Wildlife Fund for Nature was headed by Prince Berhnard, consort to Queen Juliana, who was later succeeded by Queen Beatrix. It was revealed that Bernard received 1.1 million dollar bribe from Lockheed. He admitted he hired mercenaries to infiltrate poachers and later they too were accused
of profiting from poaching.
Later WWF was headed by Maurice Strong. Strong, admitted to writing himself a check made out to Maurice Strong from the Oil for Food fund for $988,885. His associate who delivered the
check, Tongsun Park was convicted for bribery but Strong stepped down (he says he gave the money to WWF) due to the investigation into corruption in the oil for food fiasco. Maurice Strongis also the primary advocate for the private ownership of cap and trade--a profit based carbon trading market exchange based on AGW.
These facts are in every encyclopedia and in the news daily, to claim naivete is a poor excuse, besides the stories are quite interesting in detail
and are common knowledge yet, it seems some people, in this case the poster known as wilderone, responds that that's okay we should simply give up the
region to UNESCO and Wildlife Fund for Nature anyway? Is ignorance an excuse for support of criminal behavior?
The facts are what they are, know the facts, ask yourself why you would support these organizations to protect your community when you yourself are
far more reliable and capable?
The basic point is, any one who does collude with these two organizations must accept they are partnering with known consorts of criminal behavior,
and in every way shape and form you are working against the region, country and people in a manner which has been demonstrated to be illegal and based
in profit and eugenics.
The answer as to what to do is simple, go out and enjoy your environment, do not give up your independence and sovereignty, do not enter into illegal
agreements and do not collude with criminals. Do not make agreements with people who are posted on site to represent these groups. If you do you are
equally culpable, legally they are under zero authority to demand money, or restrict your access.
Quite honestly, I am being very gentle, the details of these people and their work is definitely a turn off.
BBC interview with Maurice Strong
[Edited on 7-29-2010 by gnukid]
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bajalera
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Okay, gnukid, but let's not allow those political maneuverings to obscure the fact that Osprey performed rather nobly when he arranged for vandals to
be forced to remove their desecratiions from a beautiful site.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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toneart
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A couple of pages back, gnukid posted several photos of the waterfall area. In one of the photos was a black snake. Does anyone know what snake that
is?
It looks like the deadly Fer de Lance snake that is in Costa Rica. I have seen one in a lagoon there. I don't think they are in Baja though. Anyone?
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Osprey
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It's a harmless water snake. By harmless I mean it lacks venom. Every one I caught to study a little closer bit the hell out of me, much to the
delight of my young Mexican companions in our mountain forays.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
It looks like the deadly Fer de Lance snake that is in Costa Rica. I have seen one in a lagoon there. I don't think they are in Baja though. Anyone?
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They can be nasty.
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woody with a view
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can you say MACHETE?
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I am not acquainted with Prince Bernard. I am well versed on the Fabian movement. I can still sing all the words to his hit "Turn Me Loose".
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To enlighten you on the "Prince" Bernard facts. He married into the Dutch royal family, (future queen Juliana) at the time consisting of 4 rather
homely daughters, of which Juliana was the crown princess.
Not exactly lapdance girl material. Not surprising, he had concubines, revealed much later, with some illigimate offsprings. In Paris I believe. Lined
his pockets with millions with some underhanded dealings involving the Dutch airforce and Lockeed, if I recall right. A real "Prince" alright. Kind of
reminiscent of the arrogant dork Elizabeth married in England. Besides this so called German aristocrat was a devout N-zi and part of the initial SS,
the dreaded German secret service. Time to resurrect those 1789 quillotines.
Plenty of participants in all of Europe.
One of the few things the French and Russians got right.
[Edited on 8-8-2010 by vandenberg]
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