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Cardon Man
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Check point ID requirements?
On recent trip up the peninsula from East Cape I was asked for my passport at the military check point just north of La Paz. On my way South a few
days later I was stopped again and asked for my passport at the same checkpoint.
I didn't have my passport but did have a copy of my FM3, which I offered to show they but they never actually looked at. They seemed a bit put out
that I did not have my passport and indicated I was obliged to carry it with me.
I've traveled the peninusla for a good number of years now and this is the first time I can ever recall the military guys asking for my ID let alone
passport. So, my question to the board... As a year round resident of Mexico am I required to carry my passport to travel by road within the state of
BCS?
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Bob and Susan
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when i get stopped and asked for id...several times recently
they like to see the fm2 instead of the passport
the fm2 is in spanish and easier to read
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David K
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Usually at the remote checkpoints, where they are bored... Every time when the Gonzaga Bay checkpoint is open, they ask for ID. I have shown them a
driver's license once and a passport once, but they never specified for a passport. Last time through Gonzaga was last month and the driver's license
was fine.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
they like to see the fm2 instead of the passport
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We arn't required to carry both, are we? Or, does that all depend on the time and place.
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Cardon Man
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The first time they asked me for the passport they settled for my driver's license. On the way south they didn't look at any ID and simply scolded me
for not having my passport.
the question remains...What are the ID requirements, if any?
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DianaT
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A partial answer to your question from the US Embassy in Mexico
Entry to Mexico: As of March 1, 2010, all U.S. citizens – including children -- must present a valid passport, book or card, for travel beyond the
“border zone” into the interior of Mexico. Entry by any means, for example by plane or car, is included in this requirement. The “border zone” is
generally defined as an area between 20 to 30 kilometers of the border with the U.S., depending on the location. Stays of less than 12 hours within
the border zone do not require a visa or tourist card.
Even before this requirement, we were asked for it at many stops on the mainland so like when in other countries, we always carry our passports along
with our FM3s.
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Lee
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Show them your papers
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
What are the ID requirements, if any? |
If I was passing through a checkpoint (routinely) that kept asking for a passport, I'd start carrying one -- if I hadn't been. It doesn't matter
whether a person lives in Baja full time or part time. And it doesn't matter what ID requirements are throughout Baja. It's all arbitrary,
anyway.
I always have my passport on me when traveling in a vehicle. Just how I see it. Along with vehicle registration, and MX insurance, and driver's
license.
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What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cardon Man
The first time they asked me for the passport they settled for my driver's license. On the way south they didn't look at any ID and simply scolded me
for not having my passport.
the question remains...What are the ID requirements, if any? |
Well, if you're "supposed to" have a passport to get back into the U.S., one would think you would have it when you go into Mexico. Sure, you can get
back into the U.S. with a bit of delay perhaps using the former required birth cert. and photo ID... just like you have gotten through Mexican
checkpoints without a passport.
It is pretty painless, other than the money, to get a passport... and that opens up the world should you ever become able to go beyond Mexico!
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mulegemichael
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maybe this is mexico's way of getting back at the crazy laws that arizona is trying to pass; tit for tat?...just a thought.
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monoloco
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From what I understand the only officials allowed to ask for a passport are agents of IMS.
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Bajahowodd
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Being Correct
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
From what I understand the only officials allowed to ask for a passport are agents of IMS. |
Doesn't grant much comfort when you're in the middle of nowhere in front of a bunch of soldiers. I do, however, fundamentally agree with Michael and
the Fish Guy that Mexicans must undoubtedly be sensitive to and reactive to the Arizona Kerfuffle.
I also note a considerable difference between the tourist who may cross the border often or seldom, v. folks who live there full time.
That said, since the IMM guy at the border requires one to present a passport in exchange for obtaining the FMM, why in the world would not showing
the FMM serve as proof that you are there legally?
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
maybe this is mexico's way of getting back at the crazy laws that arizona is trying to pass; tit for tat?...just a thought. |
That thought ran through my mind as well.
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gnukid
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I have asked about the requirement to carry visa and passport within INM and the officers there said that yes you may be requested to demonstrate your
visa and passport at stops. You are not however required to give up these documents nor drivers license, ever. That is why I carry many copies to hand
over when requested and I keep the original in my hand to display for inspection.
The INM has mentioned that they are aware there are many foreigners who live in the region of San Juanico and yet few applications processed for
permanent visas, so they are checking, especially if you look like you live here.
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Alan
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I love this forum. If Az wants to see immigration papers it's racial profiling. Now that Mx decides they want to see your papers it's no
problem???????
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Udo
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Is this another story like Osprey's "Radio Fishing?"
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Marc
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I have my passport on me at all times. A habit as a world traveler. As I think of it another habit; I do not unpack my suitcase when traveling. Makes
for a quick getaway. No suitcases in Baja...just throw the stuff in the back seat and go.
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BajaBlanca
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Do you know that Americans go to Brazil to train them in how to torture .... so strange to me as an American when I found out. Just not publicized
but it is the reality.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Do you know that Americans go to Brazil to train them in how to torture .... so strange to me as an American when I found out. Just not publicized
but it is the reality. |
Those are only the ones at the border checking old, scared Americans, Blanca. The nicer ones are out there looking for terrorists.
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MrBillM
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The Good Old Days
When a standard Photo ID was good everywhere in Mexico.
With a picture of Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Grant y otras.
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BajaDanD
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The only Baja checkpoint Ive ever been asked for passport or ID or car reg. is the one just north of LaPaz. I was told by other local people that it
was because of the ferry from the mainland. Seems to me that you would have had to have all that before you ever got on the ferry.
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