oladulce
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What's your address if the streets have no names?
Anybody else live in a remote area outside a city limit where there are no street names, addresses, zipcodes, mail service, city services, etc?
Because utility bills are required for so many official Mexican things, , we always have to jump thru some extra hoops for immigration, bank accounts,
etc because we don't live where there are utilities.
Likewise we have no official address- no house number and no street names out here. Rather than deal with the hoopla and extra red tape that having no
address is sure to cause, for FM3's and various other official things that require an address, we've sort of winged it and used our lot number and
some other reference to the area like "#44 El Faro" or "#44 Punta Something" (for the geographical location). It's worked so far except we haven't
been consistent or we forget what we made up the previous time so we really should find out if there is an acceptable way to handle this.
It's time for immigration docs again I'm looking at the online forms to see if it appears we could fill out the forms and upgrade from FM3 to FM2
ourselves, without the assist of an agent.
The forms seem pretty easy but unfortunately, "zipcode" has a mandatory asterisk and I don't think I'll be able to progress past that to complete the
forms.
If there is no mail delivery where you live, do you still have a zipcode? If we have a zipcode, can I look it up online somewhere?
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monoloco
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Domicillio conocido.
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Russ
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Big problem! I'm in the same condition in Punta Chivato. I've been using my Parcel # - Sec - and Lot # and use Mulege as a Zip. The gas man puts Punta
Chivato - conocido on the receipt. I hope it'll work for you. I have the inmigrado now so it has worked for a long time for me.
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gnukid
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S/C S/N Entre/Pueblo X Casa Roja Circa Tienda Tecate
which means No street name no house number enter the pueblo named whatever red house near the tecate store - they will find you
There is an official address registered with your parcel and taxes you can refer to that but they might not find you
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mcfez
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Hope you dont mind the translation
In little communities where the houses are not numbered and/or have no names for the streets, you usually say "domicilio conocido
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Domicillio conocido. |
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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La casa al lado el pino was my address in Mulege a dozen years ago.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
Anybody else live in a remote area outside a city limit where there are no street names, addresses, zipcodes, mail service, city services, etc?
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We are in the very same boat so here is what we were told to do and seems to have solved most of our problems in tramites where you need an address:
Depending on where you live and if you fall directly under a municipalidad or a delegacion, you can go to your local government offices and request a
"constancia de domicilio".
That will give a physical description of where you live and we have used that to get local satellite service, Cristina's change of address for her
federal voter ID card, drivers license and a local PO box.
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DENNIS
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It used to be, and perhaps still is, that house numbers and street names weren't evident, so....one had to look at the house for a plaque with the
pertinant info on the front of the house.
Falilia Garza
206 Calle Zaragoza
Something like that.
A lot of years back, and I do remember, the house number in rural areas was assigned as the new house was added to the block, so it wasn't unusual to
see a 204 next to a 126 next to a 512.
Who cared then.....they didn't have a mailman.
[Edited on 9-15-2010 by DENNIS]
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Paulclark
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You can go to your local delegado -- at the local or closest municipal building and get a carta residential, which is a letter written and signed by
the delegado stating your address and length of residence -- usually using the closest ranch or known location as a reference. When I did it I took a
map showing my location and we attached it to the letter.
You have a postal code -- Codigo Postal and you can get it at the local post office with a map or look in the phone book as they are listed there.
All ranches have postal codes and if you ask a Mexican neighbor to look at their IFE (voters card) you will see their address and postal code.
I had the same problem as I don't have phone or water service so I didn't have a receipt showing my residence. The carta residencial was accepted
everywhere instead of a water or telephone receipt.
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Dave
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Zip codes in Mexico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulclark
You have a postal code -- Codigo Postal and you can get it at the local post office with a map or look in the phone book as they are listed there.
All ranches have postal codes and if you ask a Mexican neighbor to look at their IFE (voters card) you will see their address and postal code.
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Here you go:
http://tucodigo.com.mx/index.php
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Depending on where you live and if you fall directly under a municipalidad or a delegacion, you can go to your local government offices and request a
"constancia de domicilio".
That will give a physical description of where you live and we have used that to get local satellite service, Cristina's change of address for her
federal voter ID card, drivers license and a local PO box. |
For a couple of years we couldn't figure out why our property tax info wasn't being sent to the nearest town a couple miles away where we could pay
it. Finally found out that we're not considered part of the town and our property taxes are paid 90 miles away in Constitución at the municipio
office.
The fideicomiso descriptions refer to us as "Parcel 44, Ejido Chula", municipio de Comondú. A little confusing because there is a pueblo named
"Chula" 7 miles away and most "Ejido Chula" members live there, but we're not part of that pueblo either. I'd guess a constancia de domicilio would
come from Constitución.
We got a "carta de domicilio" from the delegado of the town we're closest to (even tho we don't officially live in the town) and presented it when we
registered our FM3's in La Paz in March. The INM man wasn't very interested and returned it to us.
Right now I want to be able to complete the online immigration form which requires the following items with asterisks:
* Calle
* Número exterior
* Colonia
* Estado
* Delegacion o municipio
* Código Postal
I haven't tried using one of our creative addresses yet to see if it would be rejected by the inm website form but I think i'll try it . At least it
would be a number and (unofficial) "street" format that the online form requires. I wonder if a "Constancia" description of the property (although
official) would be rejected by the online FM2 form?
I think it's important that we obtain documentation of our "official address", but right now I'm most interested in making the transition from FM3 to
FM2 and the required paperwork as easy as possible and keeping the 5 hour drives to La Paz INM office to a minimum.
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bajajudy
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Is there any government building near you?
Our address includes atras de infonavit.
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We are to hell and gone from town..out on the beach listed on the tax plots as in the "Zona Turista"...which means our taxes are 6 times higher than
the regular homeowner's taxes. 
I just scribble Rookery de Rogelio for the last 40 years and it works..
But officially.I am in Adelaido, Municipo de Mulege..the name on the survey map. I have the original maps of the area..which helps. 
[Edited on 9-16-2010 by Pompano]
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BajaBlanca
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5 hours to la paz ? isnt santa rosalia closer to you ?
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