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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I believe Woooosh is right the bottom line is the border patrol can't deny US citizens entry to their own country |
Well duh, of course that is right. I wish people would stop saying that.
That's not the issue. The issue is the problems caused by not being able to prove you are a citizen when they are suspicious of you for whatever
reason. They no longer take simple declarations like they used to.
White skin, blue eyes, native English speaker, you're in. Otheriwse, who knows. |
How funny K-rico believes the Border Patrol has some kind of "white privilege" system "white skin, blue eyes" your in, but for everybody else all bets
are off. You just might have to endure a stay in Mexico like in the Cheese Martin movie "Born in East L.A."
A lot of time they will question the white skin, blue eye guy more than they will the Mexican-American who fits the profile of somebody passing back
and forth between counties.
But like I said everybody who is a US citizen makes it back to the US side after they verify who you are, and they don't just have to accept a simple
declarations although they could do that too.
If you give them your name or drivers license number they could pull up a picture of you, and I been told they could pull up your passport information
if you have one.
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sanquintinsince73
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I agree with most of what you say, Mulegena. But as you approach the actual little hooch where the officer is located, you will notice a metal sign
that proclaims "we are the face of America" and it shows several agents smiling back at you. Very rarely do you come up to an agent who is smiling at
you. If they are bored with their job's then go do something else, hell retire to Baja. Some of you do not agree with the skin color issue so I would
recommend reading "Black Like Me", I don't recall the author but it is good reading. In closing, I am not at all politically correct. I don't run
around waving a Mexican flag because I was born in U.S.A. I am American first.
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k-rico
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Joe, you mean I joined the blue eyed, white men club for nothing? Damn.
Sarcasm, Joe, sarcasm.
Whether or not you get hassled by the border guards not only depends upon you, but also each guard's prejudices.
[Edited on 9-19-2010 by k-rico]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
If they are bored with their job's then go do something else, hell retire to Baja. |
Could you have retired from the Corp in the late sixties in Saigon? That would be unthinkable as would a border customs officer retiring in Baja.
I've had them question me as to how I could possibly live here and it wasn't because they were curious. Generally, they don't care for Mexico.
As for their demeanor, they're acting pretty much as their superiors want then to act. It's just the degree of nastiness in the individual that
differs.
Everybody should grin and bear it. That's the path of least resistance.
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sanquintinsince73
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I concur, Dennis. Let's wrap up this thread and get back to talking Baja stuff.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by DENNISEverybody should grin and bear it. That's the path of least resistance. |
I just sit and wait it out since I know that I'm not one of the bad guys.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
I agree with most of what you say, Mulegena. But as you approach the actual little hooch where the officer is located, you will notice a metal sign
that proclaims "we are the face of America" and it shows several agents smiling back at you. Very rarely do you come up to an agent who is smiling at
you. If they are bored with their job's then go do something else, hell retire to Baja. Some of you do not agree with the skin color issue so I would
recommend reading "Black Like Me", I don't recall the author but it is good reading. In closing, I am not at all politically correct. I don't run
around waving a Mexican flag because I was born in U.S.A. I am American first. |
I always get a chuckle out of that sign... especially the first line where it says you will be given a cordial welcome back to the USofA. Anyone
ever get one?
[Edited on 9-19-2010 by Woooosh]
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1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Bajahowodd
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Closest thing to that was one time, after spending two weeks traveling the peninsula, the officer's first words were, "Boy, I'll bet you're glad to be
back in the US"! I didn't react. Fact was I was sad that I was leaving Mexico. Had such a great time. Just figured that if i took issue with his
statement, I'd find my journey interrupted.
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Gypsy Jan
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I Wish That This Had Been an Issue
When I had to commute from Baja to my job in San Diego.
"Hey, Boss! They wouldn't let me over the border, sorry!"
I would have turned around, headed home and gone back to bed.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
When I had to commute from Baja to my job in San Diego.
"Hey, Boss! They wouldn't let me over the border, sorry!"
I would have turned around, headed home and gone back to bed. |
That was a long time gone. Yes...indeed.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Closest thing to that was one time, after spending two weeks traveling the peninsula, the officer's first words were, "Boy, I'll bet you're glad to be
back in the US"! I didn't react. Fact was I was sad that I was leaving Mexico. Had such a great time. Just figured that if i took issue with his
statement, I'd find my journey interrupted. |
For that reason, I prefer to cross in Tecate. The crossing in Tijuana kills the fun much faster when dealing with the "linea" there.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Closest thing to that was one time, after spending two weeks traveling the peninsula, the officer's first words were, "Boy, I'll bet you're glad to be
back in the US"! I didn't react. Fact was I was sad that I was leaving Mexico. Had such a great time. Just figured that if i took issue with his
statement, I'd find my journey interrupted. |
For that reason, I prefer to cross in Tecate. The crossing in Tijuana kills the fun much faster when dealing with the "linea" there.
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Yeah, but do they have the drive-thru food court?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Gypsy Jan
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The Best Churros Are Sold in the TJ/SY Drive Through
Also, music CD's (very good quality), cell phone charger cords for 1/3 the price at the store, life size, paper mache Rottweiler statues. Too chicken
to try the tamales, burritos, or cocteles, but I hear that they are tasty and no one I know has ever reported getting sick.
Borderland, almost Disneyland; all the entertainment without the exorbitant prices.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Borderland, almost Disneyland; all the entertainment without the exorbitant prices. |
I like the Fire-Eaters. Are they still around?
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Borderland, almost Disneyland; all the entertainment without the exorbitant prices. |
I like the Fire-Eaters. Are they still around? |
Maybe they are out at night- just child jugglers for now. Don't be afraid of the food, the frozen yogurts or the great coffees. I think the sushi
place closed- that was the only thing I cringed at. Bon appetit!
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Gypsy Jan
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The Fire Eaters are at the Traffic Lights
On Cuahatemoc Sur (sp?), near the Aguacaliente intersection, but, I imagine they wander around, according to time of day, looking for the best
location for tips.
This is strictly speculation, but I think that they got chased out of the border area. All the vendors and charities have to be licensed and carry a
picture ID. I know that CRREAD does.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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OK...No fire eaters at the line.
How about the 6 year old kids who stand there and belt out a Ranchera Ballad at the top of their little lungs? That's always worth a buck or two from
me.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
OK...No fire eaters at the line.
How about the 6 year old kids who stand there and belt out a Ranchera Ballad at the top of their little lungs? That's always worth a buck or two from
me. |
Ya know- I miss them too Dennis. Def worth a buck. Those kids sing their hearts out. Maybe they are there on Saturday or Sunday afternoons when
more tourists are passing through. Hope so.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
OK...No fire eaters at the line.
How about the 6 year old kids who stand there and belt out a Ranchera Ballad at the top of their little lungs? That's always worth a buck or two from
me. |
Ya know- I miss them too Dennis. Def worth a buck. Those kids sing their hearts out. Maybe they are there on Saturday or Sunday afternoons when
more tourists are passing through. Hope so. |
Many of these little amigos are Oaxacan and I've read where they are forced to go out and sing/beg for money. Sadly, many are also victims of child
predators.
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Also . . . life size, paper mache Rottweiler statues. |
And the surfing chimp statues. I got one of those for my brother for his birthday. Told him it was the closest thing I could find to an actual
statue of him surfing.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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