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windgrrl
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We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away. The only risk so far is getting zapped when opening and closing the gate to pass
through the electrified fence. The owner always lets us know the bulls are there and, with a laugh, once said that if they bothered us at all they
might come and squash our nice truck by pushing/rubbing against it. He drives an old F-250 with a big cow catcher on the front!
For the most part, they are docile and avoid us, but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll
decide to go.
Lots of space and respect is a good idea for any unfamiliar being.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
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mcfez
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wait till your 8 ft away from him and spray
1200 hundred pounds of raw flesh running towards you at 15 MPH.....how you plan to spray this pepper spray into this raging bull? 
Perhaps if you must...an Marine air horn that comes in a can....we use these for camping up in Bridgeport Ca, where it's bear country
[Edited on 9-28-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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mcfez
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For your eyes only Dennis
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Not sure why Dennis is making fun of real tight pants with long pink socks and toe-dancing slippers........thats how I show who's Boss at this farm!
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Pictures please......one with you on your Harley will do just fine.  |
Sorry....this camera of mine is junk...so out of focus.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Jorge
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadock
my hiking trails. |
Gringos, mine mine mine. What a bunch of bull.
Whose hiking trails now? |
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pacside
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Uh I'd think twice hiking where bulls are after watching this video...EEEEEk!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39400602#39400602
In all fairness to the bull it does appear it was very agitated by all the drunken fools who climbed into the ring.   
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Should you be approached by cattle do not run - you run they run faster.
If being followed try to make to a area where the cattle will find it hard to access.......rocky...cliff
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And what if that bull or cow decides to chase you on the run to that hard-to-access place? That's not-so-funny in real life.
I'm not so sure I'd go with the tight, colorful pants right now, either. According to what I've been seeing on Mexican news in the past few months,
the bulls seem to be on to that one, sword and all.
I was once on a picnic with a group of Mexican ranchers and our path crossed a grassy area frequented by cattle. At some point, all of the ranchers
got pretty excited by the actions of a cow as it came towards us. Like you, I was clueless as to what to do, other than survey for big trees (of which
there were many, fortunately). What the ranchers did was start picking up fist-sized rocks and throwing them at the cow. They said that horns are
particularly sensitive to this treatment. I can't say that I had the urge to carry out a study on the spot, though, so I can't confirm that. I'd hate
for you to find out that this just peees them off and they follow you home.
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Bajatripper
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I would be really surprised if they didn't flee when you walk up to them, wave your hat/arms wildly and yell at them.
My favorite yell is "HYAHH! GITT!!"
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Not sure if you're being funny there, but you did remind me of another memorable picnic moment. I was driving down a river levee in the Philippines
with my girlfriend when a large carabao (water buffalo) wandered onto the levee in front of us and just stood there, much as the scene of the first
Crocodile Dundee movie. Since I have none of his charm with animals, I just shut off the car and figured we were going to have to sit there in the hot
tropical sun until the animal found something more interesting to gaze at. At that point, the 97 pounds of sweetness beside me got out of the car and
made the Filipino equivalent of your suggetion above, and away went the carabao. How could I not marry the woman?
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
i'm just sayin'....why not carry a can on your belt....i'm somewhat of a pepper spray expert also having carried it,(and used it) for over 20 years
and i know it will drop just about everything and anything in it's tracks...pretty good insurance if yer out hiking in the brush, bull or no bull
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Don't they sell this stuff, or something similar, as a bear deterrent? Or is that something else entirely? If I had it along and a bull decided to
test my speed, I'd certainly use it just before getting acquainted with those horns--and I wouldn't even care at that point which way the wind was
blowing.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away.
but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll decide to go.
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Especially when you are waving those colorful sails. And you probably even have on a tight, colorful outfit, huh?
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mcfez
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Bajatripper: And what if that bull or cow decides to chase you to that hard-to-access place? That's not-so-funny in real life.
Owning a farm up here....and having been chased by it all.....horse to goat to....turkeys too(!) ......yes...it aint funny. I agree with on that you
Sir!
However....being in the open field....trying outrun a bull wont happen. I only made my suggestions to really....stay at a distance...eyes wide open.
One must really bother these animals for it to even run at you....
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BooJumMan
Once in Costa Rica I was walking through some grasslands/forest and approached a very large bull. It was very hot outside and I could tell it was a
bull because he was dragging on the ground.  Anyways the second he saw me and my
friend he started charging us! My instinct told me to run, and I ran faster than I've ever ran, and we ended up crossing over a barb wire fence. I
lost both my shoes in the escapade!
If that fence wasnt there I'd probably would have climbed a tree or something. I wouldn't know what to do otherwise. Seriously, I don't think there is
much to do if a bull is charging you. I am all about NOT hurting animals in any way but it almost seems like the pepper spray might be worth it. Not
spraying directly in the eyes or on the animal, but if he's coming to spray in the air, maybe it would be a deterrent? |
Outrun your friend.
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Baja&Back
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To heck with pepper spray at 6 feet.
If anything, use a wasp bomb from 20 feet.
Legal in Mexico.
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Outrun your friend.
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sanquintinsince73
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Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.
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No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his
unselfish acomplishments in this country.
When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good.
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In the 70's on the way in to Cabo Pulmo in a 28ft motorhome we encountered a small herd of cows with one bull. Road was dirt in those days and that
whole area fairly desolate. I honked the horn and the bull turned to face us and started snorting and scratching the dirt with a front hoof. I thought
he would stick those nasty horns into my radiator for sure. Not knowing what to do, we decided to lay off the horn and stay motionless. It did work,
however it seemed a very long time before the animal decided we were no threat to his herd.
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windgrrl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
We often sail from a pasture with 10-20 big boys munching away.
but I always have an eye on them. Never know what might get in their heads and what direction they'll decide to go.
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Especially when you are waving those colorful sails. And you probably even have on a tight, colorful outfit, huh? |
Interesting thought picture...windsurfers bullfighting with their gear!!! We definitely do wear tight suits if it's cold, but the new colours are now
serious millenium black neoprene instead of flamboyant '80s day-glo. The better to look like seals and attrack sharks, eh?
I thought I was being chased by a cow a long time ago, but I'm not so sure pepper spray would work on cattle. It doesn't seem to be the thing that
wranglers use to herd cattle hereabouts. With a quick snap of the boom one can fill a sail and make it sound off like a shot though - sure scares my
dog.
I hope bulls can't swim...
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.
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No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his
unselfish acomplishments in this country.
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Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we
as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change chit to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.
[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73]
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I was running in the Swiss Alps a few years back and on my wayback in I was only about 1/4 mile from our house a herd of cows and bulls had decided to
settle right accross the trail there were probably 20 of them.
I thought " what the h#!! am I going to do now"? The only way home was through the herd. I waited several minutes trying to psych myself up to get
the nerve up to walk through the herd. I very slowly started walking though being careful not to make eye contact and to avoid even looking like I
was moving towards any of the calfs.
Immediately 2 of the rather large cows decided I needed watching and they started walking behind me. I stop and they stoped, I moved and they moved.
I started hearing some snorting so I stop again and now they were mad, luckly I was past all of the herd now except for these 2 who seemed to have it
out for me. I slowly moved backward away from them this time keeping eye contact and trying to show them I was in charge. In reality I felt like
crapping my shorts. I got about 100 feet away from them and just started running, and they went back to eating.
I spoke to my family about it after and they laughed and said that they were harmless, I'm not so sure about that.
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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Why f*** with the bull in the first place? You are a guest in a foreign country, hiking on land that is not yours, pick another trail.
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No he isn't. He's hiking in open territory.
Guest in a foreign country??? Absolute nonsense. He has every right available to be here. He paid for this and Mexico should be proud of his
unselfish acomplishments in this country.
When you're done bending over, stand up tall. It feels good. |
Like I said, hiking in land that isn't his. These ranchers were here long before we "discovered" baja or Punta Banda or what have you. That's why we
as Americans are hated everywhere now because we come in and try to change poop to our liking or way of life. Let the damn bulls be.
[Edited on 9-28-2010 by sanquintinsince73] |
In 1519, the first Spaniards arrived and quickly absorbed the native peoples into Spain's vast colonial empire. For three centuries, Mexico was a
colony...including Baja. It was not the evil American Empire........
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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