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Pompano
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I don't know that part that the US and Canadian officials are advising against visiting.
Guess I'll just play it safe and go back to Baja.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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La_Diva
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Very well said oxxo, Thanks for not being a scary cat
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Would not tell anyone not to go for a drive on Mex 1 all the way to Cabo... but be forewarned there are banditios out there... real ones.. not movie
kinds.. and they will take everything... and they might even shoot you too... that's life... down in Baja.. |
We have made somewhere between 12 and 15 round trips from Tecate to Cabo over the last 5 years, just two old fogies. We have never seen any hint of
bandits in those trips. All we have found is warm, friendly Mexican people that have helped us out in a pinch a time or two - refusing any kind of
compensation.
When was the last time a tourist was robbed along Hwy 1? When was the last time a tourist was killed along Hwy 1? That's not to say there aren't
thugs out there somewhere, but there are thugs everywhere. In my opinion, your chance of running into one south of Ensenada is less than NOB.
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"Banditios" is the operative word in that part of my recap summary of one year in Baja Norte, which is the area which was "identified" in said report.
As Dennis point out already, I also believe it is directed at those areas which are experience extreme violence.. Juarez, Monterey, State AG's, City
mayors, and other elected officials are being assinated, these areas are more likely the thrust of the advisory or bulletin which is the topic of this
thread..... I have not "read" said document and was only giving some "input" on travel in the North area which I'm somewhat aquatinted with, having
living there for the past year.
I don't believe I implied either directly nor indirectly that Mex 1 was unsafe... as a matter of fact I stated I would NOT advise against its use to
Cabo nor did I include the Mexican people as anything but super...
As far as deaths associated with driving on Mex 1, have not been keeping count by Nationality, sorry... but, I know a woman's baby was killed on Mex 1
by a rocks thrown by stupid young men.. they will pay for the rest of their lives for this stupid mistakes ... along with the family of the poor
little baby who was killed by a rock ...
I'm sure there our other examples of pain and suffering.. I don't try to stay on that stuff to much.... life is hard enough.. don't need to add more
too it.....
Was only suggesting, that one should error on the side of safety... while traveling in Baja...
My other statement as "worded" was intended to make it a bit lighter and humous, in a fashion, "Banditios" or bad folks are out there and keep your
senses about you... it's a vacation, but stay awake....
vios condios 
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knuckles
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
We have not been robbed, or anything close to it...
But, there is "action"going on at all times around you... if you don't think so..... well, you don't think so... does not mean it's not going on...
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And those who spend any amount of time down here are aware of it. There is a difference between what you see when you are on a "trip" versus trying
to live your everyday life. The long timers know it has changed a lot in the last 10 years.
Some of us are still drawn to the Baja we each know and love. I must be hooked like a junkie, yeah I know its bad for me but I still need my fix.
Dennis, I guess you have been to rehab and are over it. Hope you are not trapped and can make the move you desire.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Would not tell anyone not to go for a drive on Mex 1 all the way to Cabo... but be forewarned there are banditios out there... real ones.. not movie
kinds.. and they will take everything... and they might even shoot you too... that's life... down in Baja.. |
We have made somewhere between 12 and 15 round trips from Tecate to Cabo over the last 5 years, just two old fogies. We have never seen any hint of
bandits in those trips. All we have found is warm, friendly Mexican people that have helped us out in a pinch a time or two - refusng any kind of
compensation.
When was the last time a tourist was robbed along Hwy 1? When was the last time a tourist was killed along Hwy 1? That's not to say there aren't
thugs out there somewhere, but there are thugs everywhere. In my opinion, your chance of running into one south of Ensenada is less than NOB.
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Gotta jump in here again. I'm with oxxo on this. Go and have fun. The chances of you encountering a criminal situation are equal to or probably less
than in the states.
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wessongroup
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Now who in the hell said not to have a good time !!! ...
Jump where you want... but, I never said anything about having a bad time in Baja.. here is what I said... for the "record"
"Have a good time... but, don't think it's all roses and lilac's .... if you do ... hope your only looking out for yourself... not a family"
And that goes for anywhere ..... for the record ...
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DENNIS
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Yeah....Have a good time.
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Editorial in El Debate:
Lawless Cities
The violence in Mexico, as we know, does not have faces, names or a public conscience. The agenda of organized crime is but one: to take control.
And, here we are looking at small cities in various states where we mourn the loss of 11 mayors whose lives were ended by gunshots or stoning like
what happened to the City Councilman in Tancitaro, Michoacan.
What is worse is the gloom brought by such instances. As happened in Santiago, where Edelmiro Cavazos was murdered, one of the gangster triggermen
revealed that the Municipal Police had asked the Zetas to liquidate him because he simply did not get in line.
We are in a true state of failure where organized crime is settling its feuds in cities torn apart and deprived of security forces and order that can
prevail.
In Tancitaro, all the town council had denounced the threats and a councilman’s life was lost because of that stance. Mexico is losing its ability to
govern little by little. From the moment in which authority cannot survive the situation, we are in the hands of the underworld which drives the
pieces left of the government at its whims.
We saw this in the attacks on the news media and its reporters. Yesterday another reporter was murdered after barely reporting the robbery of arms
from the Chihuahua State Police. Here they (organized crime) were trying to control what is conveyed to the public and to report only what they want,
when they want.
The concern of the politicians should not be [which party wins]. The real reason to give them anxiety toward 2012 should be if there will be authority
that can reign with moderation and liberty in all corners of the country.
It is not merely because they are small cities. Hell should be enlarged.
http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/Articulos/ArticuloOpinion....
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Bajafun777
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Ok, I was traveling through T.J. yesterday and my Jeep stop right on the hill past Rosarito on Free road on my way to the Sentri. We were on the hill
incline and lots of traffic behind us. Had to get out and start flagging big trucks and cars around us.
My wife asked three guys in a truck passing to help us move the Jeep off the road that had a very deep drop off from the road. The three guys
stopped and jumped out and helped us and then a tow truck was going by on another call and the three stopped him and pressured him to take us to a
mechanic up the road.
The tow truck driver took us about 7 miles up the road to a mechanic and as we were off loading the jeep, I saw a wire hanging down under the jeep. It
appears the wiring to my electronic brain in my Jeep came off and the mechanic hooked it back up, tied it off to prevent it from happening again and
all he wanted for payment was two sodas. Had $10 left from the tow that cost me $30 dollars as I was planning to get money in San Diego that morning
after we crossed.
So, I know it is dangerous and yes I have worries too but there are sooooo many kind people in Baja don't judge them all because of the Rats!!! Sort
of like judging all of L.A. or N.Y. because of all the Rats, bad things happen but so do good things. I will not live my life in fear or stop my
travels because of the Rats but yes I will have my eyes wide open all the time!! Take Care and Travel Safe----- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN"
bajafun777
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krafty
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Dennis, what you said about 2012 could also be applied to the US- we are a world in flux-
and baja fun-that is a wonderful story and one I am not at all surprised at-we live f/t in Rosarito and cross often -no worries-we are always common
sense careful, as I was everywhere we lived-which was a couple of years in Guam, which is curiously similar to MX-
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wessongroup
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Bajafun777 Ditto's... have not meet anything but, the kindess people down here... when up at the house up north, I don't have women open doors for
me... or help me across streets... may be they are trying to pick me up or I remind them of the father... or most likely their grandfather ....
Have even had women, help push my cart to my car... the guys that help direct parking get my keys and open my Bronco for me at Walmart, when I come
out the door and puts my stuff in .. and then gives me a helping hand and/or push to get into the drivers seat...
I as for the folks causing pain a suffering... those that are doing wrong... maybe if they had a different chance growing up, different parents.. el
al.. they might have turned out differently... but, at this point you should just be "careful", like you said...
Don't condone any of the acts which hurt so many people.... in the movement of drugs and cheap labor up across the border to the United States.... and
all actions required should be employed as quickly as possible to stop the slow bleeding that both sides of the border are faced with from the
production, transportation, sales and use of drugs... of all kinds.... on the people at this time
Know it all been said before, but i haven't said here today.... soooo
Guam.... really funny a guy I know ... saw pictures of La Fonda in La Mision ...... said my "God it looks like Guam"... never been there... he just
said the rooms were moldy for the AC being on 24/7... (in Guam)
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krafty
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so true! very humid with a year round temp of about 85, give or take a few degrees. no time change so it is the same sunset time every day-the skies
are not to be believed there-was quite the awesome experience-the local peeps there are Chamorrans
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