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motoged
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Dirt road between Los Barriles and San Juan de los Planes
Nomads,
A while back a Nomad drove this road with no difficulties. Are there any fences/gates that restrict travel on this road?
My intention is to ride the entire East Cape "coastal" road down to San Jose del Cabo (KTM 690) in February. I have ridden from SJ north to Los
Frailes but went west through the mountains (foothills, actually) to the highway (beautiful terrain up top).
I have every reason to believe it is a simple route (research to date) and hope it is so.
I am also curious about roads from San Antonio/ El Triunfo area up and over dirt roads to Todos Santos area....
Thanks for your help. 
[Edited on 10-1-2010 by motoged]
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Nomads,
A while back a Nomad drove this road with no difficulties. Are there any fences/gates that restrict travel on this road?
My intention is to ride the entire East Cape "coastal" road down to San Jose del Cabo (KTM 690) in February. I have ridden from SJ north to Los
Frailes but went west through the mountains (foothills, actually) to the highway (beautiful terrain up top).
I have every reason to believe it is a simple route (research to date) and hope it is so.
I am also curious about roads from San Antonio/ El Triunfo area up and over dirt roads to Todos Santos area....
Thanks for your help.
[Edited on 10-1-2010 by motoged] |
motoged
Going by way of your bike...or other?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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bajajazz
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It has been too many years, but we used to drive the "road" between Los Planes and Las Barrilles (the first 12 miles of it, anyway) to a beach where
we had great private camping. The "road" was a washed-out track, really, very difficult driving but the camping was so great it was worth the trip.
Man, I am so glad we had what we had of this place at the time we had it.
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The roads and trails between El Triunfo/ San Antonio and Todos Santos are the best and most scenic rides in the Cape region. You can ride from
Pescadero to San Antonio without ever crossing pavement. Some of the highlights of that area are San Pedro de Frijolar, Valle Perdido, and San Antonio
de La Sierra. Beware that the Pemex in San Antonio is no longer open, there is a woman at the south end of El Triunfo who sometimes sells gas out of
drums, other than that the closest fuel is in Los Planes. I think we usually do about 120 miles round trip from Todos.
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YARDSAIL
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IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT IS WASHED OUT BETWEEN BOCA DE ALAMO AND LOS PLANES, BECAUSE OF THE RECENT RAINS, BUT IT WILL BE OPEN BY FEB. I WAS UP THERE IN
THE SPRING AND IT WAS FINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH...FOR A HIGH CLEARANCE OR SHORT WHEELBASE VEHICLE... IF I HEAR OF SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN UP THAT WAY I
WILL POST IT HERE...
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by YARDSAIL
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT IS WASHED OUT BETWEEN BOCA DE ALAMO AND LOS PLANES, BECAUSE OF THE RECENT RAINS, BUT IT WILL BE OPEN BY FEB. I WAS UP THERE IN
THE SPRING AND IT WAS FINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH...FOR A HIGH CLEARANCE OR SHORT WHEELBASE VEHICLE... IF I HEAR OF SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN UP THAT WAY I
WILL POST IT HERE... |
Wow! Guess what I just did? Picked up the wrong set of eye glasses and saw HUGE print from the last post here. Now...where are my specs to read
with......
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
motoged
Going by way of your bike...or other? |
McFez,
I will be on my KTM 690....if the stars line up
Don't believe everything you think....
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Your good to go, you will enjoy the trip.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Ged,
Just for clarification - are you talking the road that's a straight shot south of Los Planes to the Hwy (which is now paved), or the coastal dirt road
through El Cardonal, and Punta Pescadero?
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
motoged
Going by way of your bike...or other? |
McFez,
I will be on my KTM 690....if the stars line up |
Just curious since I am a rider too...but street only.
Your auxiliary tanks give you how much more of a ride...if you have em?
[Edited on 10-1-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | | Quote: | McFez,
I will be on my KTM 690....if the stars line up |
Just curious since I am a rider too...but street only.
Your auxiliary tanks give you how much more of a ride...if you have em?
[Edited on 10-1-2010 by mcfez] |
I'm going to wager a guess here that someone mistook the bike model for a reference to the planned kilometers of the trip.
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BAJA.DESERT.RAT
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Hola motoged, if you are asking about the road from san antonio off of mex 1 to los planes and just north of the old pemex by about a quarter mile, it
is paved and is in pristine condition as of last week after georgette as we took it from los barriles to go fishing off of las arenas de la ventana.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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There are some awesome sites south of La Paz... Jack Swords has photograped many, and I made a web page to show them (many with GPS data):
http://www.vivabaja.com/swords/
Specifically, El Oro (south of El Triunfo) may have been the hacienda of Don Miguel de Ocio, see on page 6 and 7... Here is the intro:
El Oro: Possibly the hacienda of Don Manuel de Ocio
Manuel de Ocio was a Spanish soldier born in 1700, stationed at Loreto around 1733, saved the life of a Jesuit priest (Father Taraval of Todos
Santos), and got involved in California's pearl industry.
Pearl harvesting had been steadily declining, but by 1748 Ocio had claimed the rich silver fields of 'Santa Ana', south of today's San Antonio, south
of La Paz.
California's first mine 'Real de Santa Ana' was the creation of Manuel de Ocio, who also raised cattle, built ships, and was California's first
tycoon.
Don Manuel de Ocio was mudered in 1771 by two miners while they robbed his storehouse.
The following photos, from Jack Swords are very likely ruins of Ocio's hacienda, dam, and other structures. Located about 30 miles south of La Paz at
N23°45.05', W110°05.67'
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motoged
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Nomads,
I am talking about the coastal road that goes east out of Los Planes over the hills to the Sea of Cortez and then south to Los Barriles, Los Frailes,
and on to San Jose del Cabo past all the windsurfing beaches, etc...., NOT the recently paved road that headed to Los Planes from the main
highway....and am riding off-road motorcycle with auxiliary tanks.....because I am experienced and know what I am doing
26 litre capacity gives me about 400 kilometer range...no problema
I have about 15,000 kms motorcycle experience in Baja since 1994....Race routes, Lizard Lady/Bill Nicols routes, and getting lost and back on my own
routes...and am here still to find some yet-to-be-explored routes.....as the one we are talking about here.
Not wanting to sound arrogant, just sayin' that I am not a total newbie here
Some examples:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124833 [/url]
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199166
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433323&h...
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woody with a view
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whatsa kilometer? 
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YARDSAIL
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MOTOGED...CHECK YOUR U2U
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
whatsa kilometer? |
to convert Canadian measurements to 'Merican numbers, just DOUBLE IT and ADD 30!
Like when they say in Vancouver... "It's cloudy and 20 degrees"... 20 + 20 = 40 + 30 = 70... it's our 70 degrees! 
If the shrimp weigh 2 kilos: 2 + 2 = 4 + 30 = 34 pounds of shrimp. 
If you want 10 gallons of gas... 10 + 10 = 20 + 30 = 50 liters... However, at Santa Rosalia it will always be more on the pump and less in your tank!
Now, the important conversion... If you want a SIX PACK of Beer... 6 + 6 = 12 + 30 = 42... 42 METRIC BEERS!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Nomads,
I am talking about the coastal road that goes east out of Los Planes over the hills to the Sea of Cortez and then south to Los Barriles,
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That road is severely washed out for cars, but you should have no problems on a bike. My buddy did it last year on an ATV.
BTW: DK and others interested. If you walk thru the restaurant at Bay of Dreams (was called El Cardonal last year) another 50 yards, is the stone
ruins of a 17th Century Spanish pier and warehouse. The Manila galleons used to stop here to water and replenish. It is now a dinghy dock.
Worth seeing!
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Thanks Barry.. someday I would like to visit that area...
The history of the pier and warehouse is a bit more recent, per Peter Gerhard who writes it was built by the Boleo Company in 1924 as a shipping point
for El Triunfo silver.
For 250 years the bay of San Lucas (Cabo San Lucas) was the occasional calling port of the Manila galleons traveling between Acapulco and the
Philippines. Pirates (like Thomas Cavendish) hid behind the arch Cape of San Lucas and surprised the galleons. 122,000 gold pesos was taken from the
"Santa Ana" and divided between Cavendish's two ships... one sailed across the Pacific, the other headed north, never to be seen again!
(history from the 1962 Lower California Guidebook, pgs 187,188)
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Went that way last summer in our GMC 4X4 diesel pickup. Didn't use the 4X4 at all. The road is just a track, but beautiful views and country. It
was really hot, but there is a great beach every 20 minutes or so, so we just stopped, swam/snorkelled, and moved on. The last part is paved and
moves away from the water. Going to try to upload photos. Ojala! Oops, can only post one picture. I'll try more later.
[Edited on 10-3-2010 by roamingthroughbaja]
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