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socalrat
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Travel WARNING?
If I remember, Mexico had been under an advisory for awhile. While starting the planning for a December trip, I realized State downgraded Mexico to a
Travel Warning in September, now putting it on par (to the State Department) with places like the People's Republic of Korea and Afghanistan.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
I'm a bit worried. Should I be planning a 900 mile drive down Baja? Should I consider crossing someplace other than Tijuana?
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mcfez
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=48096
This should give you the inside scoop....
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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bajatravelergeorge
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Travel in Mexco isn't a problem, just bring your uzi & AK47 to scare off the narcotrafficers who are trying to kidnap you. Don't bother to bring a
phone because any sort of police etc. you try to call are all corrupt and in on the kidnapping. NOT, LOL.
That whole travel thing was a ploy to get the peso to devalue so Mr. & Mrs. Clinton and their buddies could make millions working the exchange
rates. Payback for their support of her run at becoming president. Don't believe me, check out the dates of the announcements and the value of the
peso. Remember when the peso got to 14.7.
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socalrat
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Travel in Mexico with firearm is generally a bad idea.
And I know that most of Baja, outside the TJ to Ensenada corridor, is pretty much uninvolved in the narco-war. Thinking of crossing from San Ysidro
into TJ around 5:00 am and being outside of Ensenada before 10:00 am
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David K
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Go to the Nomad BAJA TRIP REPORTS FORUM, and read and see for yourself if we are making it back alive and how many bullet holes are in our trucks!
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Mulegena
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Well, I'm a single female-type person who just drove the road and crossed north alone.
It really isn't a problem, imo and experience. Just be smart and don't be stupid, does that make sense?
Be kind and respectful and expect to have your good attitude returned. It will be.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by socalrat
If I remember, Mexico had been under an advisory for awhile. While starting the planning for a December trip, I realized State downgraded Mexico to a
Travel Warning in September, now putting it on par (to the State Department) with places like the People's Republic of Korea and Afghanistan.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
I'm a bit worried. Should I be planning a 900 mile drive down Baja? Should I consider crossing someplace other than Tijuana?
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Socalrat what are you worried about? According to your post in 2008 you made a couple of trip to San Felipe, and I take it you already made the trip
to Los Barilles because you were planing that.
Conditions are basically the same since 2008 as the drug cartels were active back then, and the US state department as issued "travel advisories" for
years now. If you didn't heed the travel advisory in 2008 then why are you so concerned now a year later?
Hell I'd worry more about my 4WD breaking down than I would worry about traveling through the Tijuana border that I travel down all the time and
still live to talk about it.
I Made the trip from Los Angeles to the tip of Baja before, and it's a long ride. So now I try to fly. San Felipe I still have nightmares about
camping over night there, although I still go but stay in hotels.
I don't know Socalrat because from your posting it looks like you should already know if Mexico is too dangerous than it was last year, or the year
before when you took a hard long journey most people wouldn't make even if Mexico was declared safe.
If you ask me Mexico is basically the same as it been the last couple of year with the exception a few more heads are rolling around in certain areas
of Mexico, and the trip your making should bypass most of those areas.
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Socalrat post from 2008
Los Angeles to Los Barilles
Spent last Christmas and New Years in San Felipe
Want to spend this year in Los Barriles.
Leaving from Los Angeles. Plan to make the trip in 2.5 days, traveling only from late dawn to very early dusk.
What do I need to know?
Is there a list of locations (with distance) for the Pemex stations?
Anyone have a recommendation for a portable GPS system which includes Mexico maps?
I'm driving an FJ Cruiser (4WD), pulling a 19ft Airstream. What areas (if any) should I expect any problems?
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socalrat
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@JoeJustJoe
yup - we did a trip to San Felipe. Was a great time and we were thinking about San Felipe again this year. The Los Barilles trip was planned and my
wife ruptured a disc, so the trip was cancelled. Last year I was neck deep in alligators at work. We want someplace warmer this trip, so Los
Barilles is back on the list.
so, one trip, back in 2007 (was it that long ago?) and a couple of planned trips that never happened. Maybe just my memory, but things seemed a bit
calmer in 2007. I don't remember a State Department warning, for example.
I've purchased a Garmin with Mexico maps. I've researched mounting some spare gas cans on the FJ. I've come to my senses and realized I ain't going
to drive the route in two days.
I've been stealth on the board since 2007. I'm think I already knew the answer I was going to get, both serious and troll. I'm not all that worried.
But I want to be able to tell my wife that we really don't have anything to be concerned about. So, I'm hoping to get a lot of useful advice and
tips, stuff that might make her think I did my homework and 'everything will be okay'.
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bajabass
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Senor Rat, be wise, and stay advised! Once you are half a day into Baja, earlier according to your plans, you will be well south of any "danger"
zones. My wife has driven from Socal to La Paz, back, and to La Paz again in the last 6 months, and enjoyed every minute of the three trips. Have a
great time!
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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socalrat
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@bajabass
yeah, that's my thinking too - should be south of Ensenada / Estero well before 1:00 pm.
@joejustjoe
can't fly, taking the dog (65 lbs of Malinois). And really like the beach camping you can do in Baja. So, driving down.
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comitan
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socalrat
Flat tires!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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mulegemichael
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i've driven the spine 6 times round trip in the last year with absolutely no, and i mean no, problems....let yourself have fun, amigo...and let the
bad guys do the bad guys...really
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I doubt if your "Rubicon" has ever seen the real enchilada --- the little sluicebox, the big sluicebox, the honest wentworth springs to tahoma jaunt.
That was hazardous to both man and especially machine.
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krafty
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you guys are tooo funny-get by TJ before dusk? we go back and forth once or twice a week-see more action in Cali-common sense prevails, here and
there-we live just south of Rosarito and live to talk about it!
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Travel in Mexco isn't a problem, just bring your uzi & AK47 to scare off the narcotrafficers who are trying to kidnap you. Don't bother to bring a
phone because any sort of police etc. you try to call are all corrupt and in on the kidnapping. NOT, LOL.
That whole travel thing was a ploy to get the peso to devalue so Mr. & Mrs. Clinton and their buddies could make millions working the exchange
rates. Payback for their support of her run at becoming president. Don't believe me, check out the dates of the announcements and the value of the
peso. Remember when the peso got to 14.7. |
Hey, about time we've got a new troll.
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castaway$
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Just get past Ensenada and it's no problem, Go have a good time.
Live Indubiously!
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
Travel in Mexco isn't a problem, just bring your uzi & AK47 to scare off the narcotrafficers who are trying to kidnap you. Don't bother to bring a
phone because any sort of police etc. you try to call are all corrupt and in on the kidnapping. NOT, LOL.
That whole travel thing was a ploy to get the peso to devalue so Mr. & Mrs. Clinton and their buddies could make millions working the exchange
rates. Payback for their support of her run at becoming president. Don't believe me, check out the dates of the announcements and the value of the
peso. Remember when the peso got to 14.7. |
Hey, about time we've got a new troll. |
My sentiments exactly.
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Mulegena
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| Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
Just get past Ensenada and it's no problem, Go have a good time. |
What?
Do you really think there's no danger south of Ensenada, as if its some magical line the Bad Guys can't cross? Perhaps there's a time-line involved in
Bad Guy activities also?
T'aint so.
Just be smart, not stupid. You're more safe in Baja than many parts of any city or town in the US.
Please just enjoy yourself, be aware and "read" your environment, relax and have a good time.
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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krafty
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I'm with you Mulegena-north of Ensenada is ok too; just use your brain-and I truly believe in the Golden Rule-
do on to others as you would have them do on to you
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MrBillM
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Baja Safer than U.S. ?
Having traveled in Baja on my own since 1964, I have never let any warnings of Dangers influence those travels. However, the nonsensical advice that
"Some" places in the U.S. are more dangerous than Baja, produces the same thought each time I read it.
Well, Yeah But ! Nobody travels to those areas in the U.S. for recreation. Adventure, maybe, of the worst kind.
I was born in South L.A. not many blocks from Watts proper, but I haven't driven through there on any jaunts for MANY, MANY years and have no
intention to do so. The areas I do travel through are pretty safe when compared to the Urban areas of Baja.
AND, as I've said before, when traveling daily in the U.S. I can take assurance in the fact that I'm probably as well-armed as most of those with bad
intent I may come in contact with. Unfortunately, not the case in Mex.
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