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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lesd
FYI , I live in Los Angeles. We have about a murder a day here, and yes, that is mostly gang stuff.
Guatemala City has about 10X that, with a smaller population. ( and the homicide rate is very likely under reported there, as their police and justice
system is total crap )
The other difference is in Los Angeles, tourists are generally not targets because they don't stand out and they are not gang members. I was just on
Jury duty on a gang member-gang member murder trial, learned a few things there .
The thing that prompted me to post my initial question is the numerous posts on adventure travel sites that alerted me to the out of control sounding
crime rate in C.A. . I am trying to see if it is greatly exaggerated, and how it relates to white dudes with cameras. I don't feel like being a war
photographer on my time off, if that's what it would be like carrying my Pro gear. Slinging a $7K camera *may* be a problem.
The thing that really irked me about your post is the implied assumption that I am a goof ball American tourist that hesitates to leave the USA. Not
the case here, bro. I've been all over SE Asia and India, countries with a lot of poverty, and never had any issues with possible crime. And I'm not
talking tour bus trips with fat assed Farangs, I'm talking riding a small motorcycle in the most remote regions of Vietnam near the Chinese border, as
well as Hanoi where the traffic would blow your mind.
The concern is that reports of crime against gringos in C.A. is much much higher that those other places I've been.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
This will only help if you are traveling through Los Angeles on your way to a dangerous foreign country.
Compton, Gardena, Hawthorne...that's Freeway 110 running up the middle. It is only the blue and red areas that are controlled by heavily armed
terrorist gangs. Just be careful not to trample on their Second Amendment rights.
http://www.streetgangs.com/maps/southla_turf.html
Enjoy Central America. I LOVE Belize.
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For all my friends here:
Farang is the generic Thai word for a Westerner. Sounds degrading eh? Its not.
Sorry lesd......your assumption of peaceful Los Angeles's crime rate is incorrect. Dare you to take your bike and camera to Bell, Ca for a
stroll.....The dope heads will attack skinny and fatty Farang there, or anything else that moves at night. ...even Russians will get their share of a
head banger....to buy a dope bag.
No one implied that you are naive. You were just getting information from our perceptive minds. You should be saying "thanks for the help
all"........and just digest the information that is useful to you. Hell...I never take anything here personally (0)(0) !
[Edited on 10-28-2010 by mcfez]
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I was there
| Quote: | Originally posted by rob
Has anyone on the board been there?
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San Salvador City was quiet. It didn't look dangerous at all. I was there in 2008.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndoAs a patriotic American, I just thoroughly resent that there are a LOT of places in the state where I was born
and raised which I can't safely visit (if I wanted for some insane reason to know what a cesspool like Compton looked like.) because the places are
controlled by domestic terrorists.cancer untreated it'll kill you faster than breathing the air. |
I visited there in June at the home of my relatives. A young Latino rode his Horse down the street where my family lives, and the small plot of land
behind their house was being farmed. It looked like it did in the 80s when I visited there more frequently, but crime is still a problem there.
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I will take the usual precautions, and it should be OK, I guess.
L.A. is pretty bad, I didn't mean to paint it in nirvana terms. I work here because it's where my line of work is. After the economy collapses a bit
more, it will start to look more like C.A. , I am pretty sure. I am working on a plan to evacuate before it gets too bad. I am a patriotic person as
well, and am proud of the country that the last two or three generations built. I too am saddened by what has happened : The freedoms that built this
country so well have now over-shot and come around to bite us in the form of an entitled generation of clerks and cashiers with few real skills. But I
digress.
I'll be taking my truck to Baja once again in November, for just a few days, I always feel more free down there for some reason.
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lesd what route have you decided on? Place here the route and we all can advise you on road conditions ........to great places to visit. Keep us
posted and have a great trip.
BTW: I love Mexico. Been going there for ever.... 30 or so years. I love it because it seems that there is much more freedom than any other country I
have ever visited (or lived in!)! I concur with you about the freedom Sir!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lesd
I will take the usual precautions, and it should be OK, I guess.
L.A. is pretty bad, I didn't mean to paint it in nirvana terms. I work here because it's where my line of work is. After the economy collapses a bit
more, it will start to look more like C.A. , I am pretty sure. I am working on a plan to evacuate before it gets too bad. |
After visiting the barrios of Cartagena and Barranquilla, the bombed-out northern section of Lima, seeing that country's Military Police patrol their
section of the Amazon looking for Shining Path ParaMilitary Troops, is Los Angeles really that bad?
Not really.
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