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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 03:06 PM


One more thing....since you already know all about it, why do you ask?
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 03:07 PM


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Thanks, David. I tried Geico but they won't write temporary insurance.


Get the Geico policy and just stop it after your month is up. They will even refund the unused portion of the policy.




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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 03:19 PM


MsTerieus

Call Elena Bretts at the numbers that Dennis provided and see what she can do for you.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 03:26 PM


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Call Elena Bretts at the numbers that Dennis provided and see what she can do for you.


MsT might fear disbarment for speaking with a Canadian in Mexico about US insurance. There must be a judge out there somewhere who would find that terribly egregious. :cool:
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 05:55 PM


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Where are the false statements? Where is the violation of the "letter of the law?" ... Where are the false statements? There are none. ...


First of all, here is a sample of the policy language I mentioned:

"RISK NOT COVERED UNDER THIS POLICY.

"THIS CONTRACT SHALL NOT COVER ANY RISK MENTIONED AT SECTIONS 1 THROUGH 6 OF THESE GENERAL CONDITIONS, WHEN THE INSURED IS IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CASES:

"a. Is a resident or has a domicile within the Border Area.
"b. Stays in the Mexican Republic for 183 days or more in a calendar year.
"c. Maintains within the Mexican Republic one or more houses or domiciles in which he kept or garaged his vehicle."

Second, possibly, the application for insurance asks for information about, e.g., where I reside, how much time I spend there and/or whether I am "traveling" there or am a "tourist." Many application forms also make the applicant affirm the following (or words to this effect):

"I have read the above application and any attachments. I declare that the information I provided is true, complete and correct to the best of my knowledge & belief. This information is being offered to the company as an inducement to issue the policy for which I am applying and no coverage is offered at this time."

Third, and most risky, IMO: All of this would come up only if I made a substantial claim that the insurer did not want to pay, and it could lead to litigation. It would be in the litigation that I might well have to either (a) admit defeat or (b) make a false statement (e.g., in interrogatory answers or a deposition) to support my position.

Now all of this might seem overcautious to you or others, and maybe it is. If so,

well E X C U U U S S S E M E E E! :o

Still, that's no reason for you to (yet again) get personal and nasty, Mr. Hyde. If you're feeling depressed, why not get off the PC and scream at the walls or the TV or something, rather than posters?!
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 05:58 PM


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One more thing....since you already know all about it, why do you ask?


What I don't know is how to get decent coverage for occasional short trips to the U.S. that I don't have to worry won't be there when I need it. Fine, I'll talk to Ms. Brett ...
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 06:46 PM


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Still, that's no reason for you to (yet again) get personal and nasty, Mr. Hyde. If you're feeling depressed, why not get off the PC and scream at the walls or the TV or something, rather than posters?!
:?:


Oh...I don't know. I guess I was just being..uh...what was your word? Oh, yeah...cavalier. I guess, again, that's SF attornese for SASSY.
I'm gonna bite my tongue now so you can put your whip [a definite SF toy] away.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 07:33 PM


I apologize for offending you with the word "cavalier." I actually had some others' comments on my mind when I chose that word.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 07:44 PM


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I apologize for offending you with the word "cavalier." I actually had some others' comments on my mind when I chose that word.



What??? One minute you bestow upon me high praise and the next minute, you tear off my epaulets.
I was hoping to be just like my hero:

http://mapiles.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Lebron-Ja...
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 07:51 PM


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I apologize for offending you with the word "cavalier." I actually had some others' comments on my mind when I chose that word.



What??? One minute you bestow upon me high praise and the next minute, you tear off my epaulets.
I was hoping to be just like my hero:


I actually went to "Grover Cleveland High School," and the football team was called the "Cleveland Cavaliers." :D
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 08:07 PM
A Licensed Attorney ?


SO, you know the answer to "What do you call 50 Dead Lawyers at the bottom of the Ocean" .
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 08:21 PM


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SO, you know the answer to "What do you call 50 Dead Lawyers at the bottom of the Ocean" .


That joke is even older than YOU are. (A good start.) :(
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 09:04 PM
Yeah, I know.


The reason that Lawyer jokes are SO old is that they've been a problem for so long.

As they say, the only thing wrong with the Legal Profession is Lawyers.

Nothing personal, of course. It's just that the 99 percent of bad ones give the good ones a bad name.
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[*] posted on 10-29-2010 at 09:24 PM


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Nothing personal, of course. It's just that the 99 percent of bad ones give the good ones a bad name.


It's big of you to say so, Mr. Bill. :saint:
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[*] posted on 10-30-2010 at 09:23 AM


The way I see it:
1. my MX insurance only covers me in MX and not in US
2. my US auto insurance only covers me in the US and not in MX
3. when I'm in the US my car is garaged at the location specified
4. since I'm only in the US about once a month for a day or 2 my US insurance allows me to claim that I drive less than 2000 miles/ year while I'm up there and gives me a huge discount on my annual premium since that is the only time they are at risk.

There are no false statements made anywhere in this policy and living in MX is no different than living in Canada except that my US policy would cover me there (as a tourist)


[Edited on 10-30-2010 by durrelllrobert]




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[*] posted on 10-30-2010 at 10:29 AM


Thanks, Bob. Sounds like a good plan, as long as you can continue to garage your car (or at least use the address) at your same address. I can't do that, as I plan to rent out my US house, and I can't have my mail going there while it's rented. : {
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[*] posted on 10-30-2010 at 10:44 AM


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Thanks, Bob. Sounds like a good plan, as long as you can continue to garage your car (or at least use the address) at your same address. I can't do that, as I plan to rent out my US house, and I can't have my mail going there while it's rented. : {


Why can't you receive your mail there? You pay taxes on the property, doncha?
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[*] posted on 10-30-2010 at 11:20 AM


I suppose I could ASK my tenants to please forward forward my mail to me (and not to return it to the post office, as they legally would be entitled to do). However, I don't want to rely on or impose on tenants to do this. (Furthermore, if there were ever any question about residency, I could hardly expect the tenants to lie to my insurer for me.)

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Thanks, Bob. Sounds like a good plan, as long as you can continue to garage your car (or at least use the address) at your same address. I can't do that, as I plan to rent out my US house, and I can't have my mail going there while it's rented. : {


Why can't you receive your mail there? You pay taxes on the property, doncha?
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[*] posted on 10-30-2010 at 11:45 AM


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I suppose I could ASK my tenants to please forward forward my mail to me (and not to return it to the post office, as they legally would be entitled to do). However, I don't want to rely on or impose on tenants to do this.


If your tenants wouldn't go that little bit out of their way to hold your mail for you, what good are they.

One thing to remember...an alternative to home delivery would be Postal Annex. I mention them because I use them.
Anyway....you could forward all of your mail to your new address with them, but they won't forward it back to you when you return and you would be left to make all of your changes of address yourself. They're very one-way about that.

Don't under any circumstances arrainge mail delivery in Mexico....forwarded or otherwise. Arrainge for a friend to get your mail from your house occasionally while you work out a way to get it brought down here.
There's always a way.
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