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Martyman
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Scaring dogs with skyrockets
I loves me skyrockets! Some dog owners do not like me. I try to announce that small explosions will be happening to whoever may be around. The way
I see it...the more loud explosions dogs are exposed to, the more they'll get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong?
That dog cujo @ gecko, tried to grab the lit rocket out of the air.
Last spring i didn't get the biggest skyrockets, but since the Giants won the world series i will get the big ones this time. Sorry dogs.
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Russ
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You sound like my neighbor. He's running down his warehouse of fireworks but I'm pretty sure he's got enough for Thanks Giving , Xmas & New Years
and maybe a few in between. Lucky for me Mason goes back to sleep after the first round goes off. His, Mr. Fireworks, wife has to hold the barking dog
during the shows or it would grab one mid launch.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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DENNIS
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Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital.
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DENNIS
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If you're lucky.
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BajaWarrior
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One of my Rottweillers is now 11 years old now and still if he hears a "boom" even in the far off distance he want in the house and proceeds to one of
the shower stalls in our house or a corner.
He's a great dog and many Nomads even know him but the sound of fireworks really scares him.
But ya' know? Over 30 years of Baja travel/residing and I'm pretty much tired of those fireworks. Go blow them up far from where people live and camp
please.
He's the one lying down.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by BajaWarrior]
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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mcfez
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Some professional advice from Dr. McFez
Your post sounds like you are trolling..............
Either you:
[a]. Hate dogs.
[B]. Have developmental disabilities.
[c]. Dogs and humans hate you.
Undesirable behaviors are learned through interactions with the social and physical environment. Man....you must have had a real bad childhood. Sorry.
Try to do extraordinary things with you life. Makes one feel better all inside. Start with being nice towards others...and dogs.
You Sic marooon.
.........The way I see it...the more loud explosions dogs are exposed to, the more they'll get used to it. Maybe I'm wrong?
No dude...no. It hurts their hearing in a major way. Painful. They bark because of the pain.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Packoderm
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Are you setting off bottle rockets high into the air like I see so often in Baja, or are you deliberately pointing them at dogs? I'm trying to
determine if you're a marooon or just a rowdy. Maybe it's that you'd be considered more of a marooon if you set them off in white, gated communities.
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I kind of think that since it is legal in baja and Marty is notifying his neighbors it's no big thing. It's not like we live stacked one on top of the
other down there.
By the way, no dog I have ever owned was too concerned about fireworks so that has not been an issue for me.
All these rules..... |
I'll give you that, some dogs are not affected at all so it can't be the hearing it's bothering? My female Rotty is not affected by the fireworks at
all.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I kind of think that since it is legal in baja and Marty is notifying his neighbors it's no big thing. It's not like we live stacked one on top of the
other down there.
By the way, no dog I have ever owned was too concerned about fireworks so that has not been an issue for me.
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Pure Bull Sht. Everybody knows this crap drives pets nuts. It's the rare dog who will be numb to it.
What the eff is it about explosions that make a grown man wet his pants?
No military background...for sure.
If people here where I live ever get into explosives, they had best understand physical violance at the same time. I promise that's what they'll see
from me and they won't be able to deal with it.
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Packoderm
Maybe it's that you'd be considered more of a marooon if you set them off in white, gated communities. |
Camp Gecko is the lilly-whitest place I've ever been to and yes, we do have a gate. Sort of. Doc put up a chain across the entryway to camp in a vain
attempt to keep over-night campers out, but people were too lazy to put it back up after driving thru so now it lays in the dirt and we drive over it.
We do have an Irish problem on the south side of camp and I swear I can hear banjos coming from the last row late at night.
Marty's a good guy - he takes the time to tell the camp that at so-and-so time he's gonna shoot off fireworks. Seems reasonable to me.
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monoloco
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I had a rottweiler and when someone lit off a string of firecrackers at a party she jumped right in the middle of them and was trying to bite them as
they exploded.
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Woooosh
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Dogs hate them. Even gun dogs hate them because there is no reward for the noise. No retrieve, no swim, no taste of feathers, no "atta-girl!" One
of our dogs would shake and suffer a lot during the really loud M80-type fireworks- but he's deaf now so no problemo for him.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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lizard lips
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I live in the city of Ensenada and at Christmas and New Years the noise lasts forever. You even get to know what neighbors have automatic weapons.
I HATE EM AND MY DOG HATES EM WORSE!
I turn up the music LOUD in the house and go have dinner with the family at my mother in laws. When I return "Booger" is still shaking. It really
hurts his ears. I say if you really want a blast grease up a M50 and shove it up your culo and light it.
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Let off that crap around my dog and you'll be trucked to the hospital. |
Or Put in a George Foreman grill.
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toneart
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My dog hates loud booms and so do I. !!!
I hate any kind of noisemakers. My dog starts shaking and stays right by my side during the Fourth of July, gun blasts and thunderstorms. He never
sleeps next to my bed except for those times. I certainly relent. I also pet him and talk to him in a calm voice. That does help because he trusts me.
But a dog doesn't understand what explosions are. They are very threatened and scared. Just imagine if you were a dog and lacked the intellectual
capacity to understand.
Hunters who say dogs can be trained to learn to like gun shots, if that is your experience, fine. I don't believe it. I can assure you my dog does
not like them.
Many dogs leave home because they are so scared and distressed. They become disoriented and keep running. Many are lost forever and some get hit by
vehicles and killed.
Grow up, Marty. Loud explosions are obnoxious and consequently, so are you. That is not an indictment of you as a person. I don't know you, so it only
applies to your penchant for making loud noises. Please be more considerate.
You put it up here on the board. I hope you will take the majority of unfavorable comments and learn.
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Martyman
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Passionate about the dogs are we. Hey, i like dogs too. Mine have never had problems with the noise. Lets see, I'm a sic (nice spelling) marooon.
Had a terrible childhood, a troll and need to grow up. And (will be) trucked to the hospital.
It seems with all the therapy I've had, I should be further along. Do you guys always write such nasty things about people you've never met? Sounds
like facebook.
No i don't aim skyrockets at dogs...jeez people.
Thanks for sticking up for me soulpatch and santiago. Glad you are my neighbors!
Did the rest of you just need to vent? Having a bad day are we? Hope you are feeling better.
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Pompano
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Tony, I understand where you are coming from..but you are wrong about loud noises and dogs.
Sure, it's very unsettling when your dog has a fear of thunder, fireworks or other loud and sudden noises. They will express their fear in
destructive behavior, barking, cowering, and throwing various fits.
But...there are two mistakes we often make which only make the situation worse. First, never reprimand or punish the dog for being afraid. He will
only become more frightened. Secondly, never verbally or physically try to reassure or comfort the dog when he is acting fearful. If
you stroke, cradle or hug your dog while saying things like, 'Oh poor baby, it's OK, there's nothing to be afraid of,' the dog doesn't understand your
words, but he does understand that he is receiving a gentle, soothing reward by your actions and tone of voice. The dog usually concludes it is
doing the right thing by acting nervous because you are so approving of it. Remember, this is a dog..
Sometimes simply stopping the unintentional reward stops the fearful behavior. But until the dog is over his fears, it is best to confine him to a
place where he can't hurt himself or completely destroy your property. A crate is ideal.
Brush up on some obedience training and teach your dog a few tricks and games. It is difficult for a dog to be afraid when he is enjoying his favorite
game of fetch. It is difficult to think about the thunder storm outside when the dog is concentrating on a quick series of Come Here, Sit, Heel, Sit,
Shake Hands, Down, Roll Over, etc. The idea is to distract the dog from the noise. You can then shower the dog with lots of affection and attention,
but for obeying a simple command of sit-shake hands, instead of for acting fearful.
The key is patience and practice.
Do not wait until the night before the thunder storm or the third of July (fear of fireworks) to begin teaching your dog a few tricks. Be sure he
knows them well beforehand. He will probably have trouble concentrating at first, so the better he knows the games and tricks, the easier it will be
for him to perform them under pressure.
Another method of helping your dog overcome his fear is to slowly and gradually accustom him to the noises that frighten him. This can be done by
making a recording of the sounds and playing it back to the dog while he is enjoying everyday life and activities. Many music stores have soundtracks
of fireworks, thunder storms and rain that you can purchase. Start by playing it back at such a low volume that you can barely hear it, but the dog's
keen hearing will. The dog should show no signs of fear at this volume. Gradually, over the course of weeks or months, increase the volume by tiny
increments. The volume is increased so slowly that the dog hardly notices the change. Eventually he will be used to hearing the sounds at full force.
If at any time, your dog shows signs of fear, decrease the volume again and proceed a little more slowly. This procedure will work more quickly if you
combine it with distraction training.
Making loud noises, like banging that pot with a spoon while feeding him will also help..he will learn to associate the noise with a reward..his food.
All of this works, Tony..and Paco will like the attention you shower on him.
http://www.gundogsupply.com/richard-wolters.html
My best recommendation to you is too look up the book above on Amazon books and buy it. Wolter's is/was a magician in the training of any
dog..hunting, family, or mere pet.
I've trained a few dogs in my time..none remained afraid of noises for long....and looking forward to the next one soon! Co-Pilot wants a boxer..she
loves that breed.
As for shooting off fireworks (the OP's main point)..nothing so terribly wrong with that...My Mexican neighbors love them!...although I got past that
stage when my hearing started to fail... 
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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woody with a view
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go get 'em Marty! ever aimed at cats?
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Tbone
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Well said Pampano, enjoy Marty
Mas Pacifico
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Woooosh
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all third world countries celebrate with fireworks to scare away the demons. Comes with the territory, literally.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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