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Mexicorn
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Looking for good tires for northern Baja
Fellow Nomads looking for input for tires for my SUV. Northern Baja in winter is hard on tires as we all know. Can you please tell me what is the best
set for the money? Two wheel drive full size SUV with little or no off roading if I can avoid it. Should I buy in Mexico or the US?
Costco or Discount tires?
Please tell me what you think and Merry Christmas.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Depends on if you think you may have to rely on a warranty. I have never found tires that were warranteed against road hazard or tread wearout
anywhere in Mexico. Solely manufacturer's defects workmanship and materials.
Mexico imports lots and lots of cheap made in China tires. They may have famous brand names stamped on them. I have historically purchased BF
Goodrich.
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woody with a view
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best advice anyone can spout:
get 4 !!!! other than that there are too many types/vehic's/places and you will end up stuck.
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larryC
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Corn
I have a 2000 ford f350 that I bought tires for a couple of years ago. I bought Michelin 285/75R16, and I am very happy with them. A little larger
than stock, but spread out nicely when I let the air out to drive on soft stuff. Work well for me but for sure your milage will vary.
Larry
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Hook
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I have a 2000 F350 and have been getting about 45k on my Michelin 265x75x16 LTX MS II tires. That's with a cabover camper on the truck about 50-70 %
of the time. Three steel belts in the tread. Full siping ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TREAD. Good traction in snow, dirt or water. VERY highly rated by
users on tirerack.com. Not cheap.
I bought my latest set in Oregon w/o sales tax. I went to a Discount tire store and there was a Costco less than a 1/4 mile away. Discount tire said
they would match the price of Costco. "Problem" was, when we both looked the Costco price up on their website, Discount was already cheaper by
5.00/tire.
Not a fan of BFG, but we've been all over that, haven't we?
Other than Michelins, the other tire manufacturers that I have had good luck with in the past are Bridgestone Duelers or Yokohamas.
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bajatravelergeorge
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The new Goodyear all terrain with the kevlar belts is the hot ticket right now. I hate the BFG all terrains I have on my truck now.
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajatravelergeorge
I hate the BFG all terrains I have on my truck now. |
Why???
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David K
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Stay away from BFGs... way over-hyped and over priced... the tires that beat the Baja from BFG are not sold to the public.
Best price with quality all terrain types include:
Discount Tires or Express Tires: Hankook DynaPro, Toyo Open Country AT or Cooper Discoverer ATR. I have not yet tried the Hankooks but they are
getting superior reviews from owners. The other two I did have on my last Tacoma... very good, quiet, no flats.
[Edited on 12-23-2010 by David K]
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Barry A.
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I run 3 4x4 vehicles, all in Mexico in the past, now in the states-----all 3 are on their second sets of BFG All Terraign AT KO's with nary a
problem other than a few repairable flats.
Isuzu Trooper, Nissan X-terra, & Ford F-250 with 1000 lb camper, all 3 run extensively on bad roads for years.
The cheaper BFG Rough Countries that came with my X-terra were terrible, and I ruined 2 in short order with sidewall tears, and too many flats with
staubs thru the face of them. Put on BFG All Terraign AT KO's and no further problems.
Just my experience, of course.
Barry
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bigboy
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I'm in step with Barry A. with the BFG AT KO's. I too had the less expensive BFG Rough Countries had had nothing but trouble with them.
I have the BFG KO's on three 4X4's and have never had a problem with any of them. I had a set of them on my Bronco with over 40,000 miles on the
tires. They had about 60% tread left and I put them on my Scout II and bought new ones for my Bronco. I also have a set on my Excursion 4X4 and tow a
8000# trailer with them.
All three of these trucks see a lot of dirt roads and are not babied at all.
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David K
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Yah, you either love them or hate them... I was riding with Amo Pescar woth brand new All Terrain TAs on a sandy road (Yubay road) and the sidewall
ripped... Ken Cooke can tell you how many he has seen ripped... I see them all over Baja on the side of the road.
My Tacoma trucks (3) all came with BFG Rugged Trails ... the posters on Tacoma World forums call then 'Rugged Fails'... I have had two flats with them
under 16,000 miles... rocks not nails. I lost count on how many flats I had on my first Tacoma with BFGs.
Baja Angel had All Terrain TAs on her CJ-5 and loved them... They are either real good or real bad. Too risky for me to spend $185 per tire on a 50/50
odds bet.
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mcfez
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Stay away from BFGs... way over-hyped and over priced... the tires that beat the Baja from BFG are not sold to the public.
Best price with quality all terrain types include:
Discount Tires or Express Tires: Hankook DynaPro, Toyo Open Country AT or Cooper Discoverer ATR. I have not yet tried the Hankooks but they are
getting superior reviews from owners. The other two I did have on my last Tacoma... very good, quiet, no flats.
[Edited on 12-23-2010 by David K] |
DavidK.....u have 4w ?
This is a question that I need answered too. My Dodge Ram 2w....what is best for sand and that smooth road up by Coco's 
Txs in advance
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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David K
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Ummm, yah... it wouldn't be possible to go to all the great Baja places or easily on Shell Island without 4WD... and a locking rear differential and
now Active Traction Control (A-TRAC)... which is like front and rear automatic lockers.
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I just stuck a set of Kumo tires on my Ford 4X4 long bed crew cab diesel truck. Replaced the BFG's. I was in CO deer hunting a month ago and my
brother has BFG's on the exact truck. He could not go through the mud and snow without spinning a lot. We took my truck and had little issues. They
are not noisey tires and are $60 less a piece than BFG's. I am sold.
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bajamigo
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Quote: | Originally posted by bigboy
I'm in step with Barry A. with the BFG AT KO's. I too had the less expensive BFG Rough Countries had had nothing but trouble with them.
I have the BFG KO's on three 4X4's and have never had a problem with any of them. I had a set of them on my Bronco with over 40,000 miles on the
tires. They had about 60% tread left and I put them on my Scout II and bought new ones for my Bronco. I also have a set on my Excursion 4X4 and tow a
8000# trailer with them.
All three of these trucks see a lot of dirt roads and are not babied at all. |
Can you tow boats with them?
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by wakemall
I just stuck a set of Kumo tires on my Ford 4X4 long bed crew cab diesel truck. Replaced the BFG's. I was in CO deer hunting a month ago and my
brother has BFG's on the exact truck. He could not go through the mud and snow without spinning a lot. We took my truck and had little issues. They
are not noisey tires and are $60 less a piece than BFG's. I am sold. |
What model Kumo ?
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gunit
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All this talk about brands is not as important as buying heavy duty. Only buy "LT" tires with load range E rating and you will not have any problems.
All of the current car mfg. deliver their 1/2 ton trucks and suv;s with "P" rated passenger car tires. This is a crime, they are all wothless when it
comes to Baja. The OEM tires are just good enough to drive the car to the tire shop at thats all.
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Hook
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Quote: | Originally posted by gunit
All this talk about brands is not as important as buying heavy duty. Only buy "LT" tires with load range E rating and you will not have any problems.
All of the current car mfg. deliver their 1/2 ton trucks and suv;s with "P" rated passenger car tires. This is a crime, they are all wothless when it
comes to Baja. The OEM tires are just good enough to drive the car to the tire shop at thats all. |
Well, there is some truth in what you say but load range E tires are expensive and rather hard riding on pavement. Which, last time I checked, you
have to drive on a bit of pavement in Baja.
I use load range E tires because I HAVE to, not because I want to. But I havent had any flats on the LTX MS tires in about 120k miles. Maybe luck,
maybe not...................
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gunit
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The cost difference is insignificant and certainly less than the cost of one ruined light duty tire. If you run them at 35-40 psi they are not rough
riding. My wife has them on her Expedition.
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Diver
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Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I have a 2000 F350 and have been getting about 45k on my Michelin 265x75x16 LTX MS II tires. |
Next time you go to Oregon for tires, check out the Toyos at Les Schwab. I get 45K on my F350 for a lot less $ than the Michelins.
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