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motoged
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Road southwest out of Agua Verde
Nomads,
Google Earth has me seeing a road out of Agua Verde in a southwesterly direction that leads to Constitucion. Has anybody driven that or know about
it?
And I don't mean the highway
[Edited on 12-11-2010 by motoged]
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DavidE
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I wonder if that can be the original brecha?
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David K
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What's a 'brecha', Dah-veed?
Ged, I have heard of this 'unmapped' road... but don't recall any recent reports on it... Might have to search all Agua Verde Road posts?
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motoged
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"Brecha" is a "gap".....
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Ask
Graham he walked it. 
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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motoged
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The Google Earth imagery for Agua Verde is dated July 28, 2007, so may be inaccurate as a few hurricanes have swept through since that time and
Graham's "hike".
If one were to look at GE, the wash that runs south from the E-W road a km or so west of the AV fish camp, and follow that wash south and then west
for a few km's (a road is faintly visible in and along that wash). you will see (where the "brown map" joins the "green image") a road switchbacking
southeasterly and then southerly....and eventually westerly to end up at the east end of Insurgentes or Constitucion..... THAT is what I am referring
to.
Several years ago a late nomad from the east cape tried to get through on a quad but could not find his way through http://www.rancholeonero.com/memorial4roy.html )
and..... http://www.rancholeonero.com/divertido.html
[Edited on 12-11-2010 by motoged]
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I have used the Agua Verde "back door" several times the last few years. Its narrow and very steep. Driven carefully any 4x4 should be able to do it.
track file here:
http://www.baja101.com/GoogleEarth/agua verde road.kml
images here:
http://carlosnpainter.smugmug.com/Events/Agua-Verde-back-doo...
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larryC
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4x4abc
the first link is broken, takes you to a site in german that says that the page cannot be found, but the link to some pictures is working. I could not
tell from the photos where you are exactly. Can you tell me where you get onto that road exactly. I would love to try it. I try to go into agua Verde
once or twice a year. the only road I know of takes off hiway 1 at about the km 64 marker south of Loreto. Great little restaurant right there run by
a family that used to live in AV. Beautiful road.
thanks
Larry
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4x4abc
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changed the file name - should work now:
http://www.baja101.com/GoogleEarth/agua-verde-road.kml
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Baja has so many more "surprises" to offer - I am working on digging as much of them up as possible:
http://www.baja101.com/first-adventure/
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Keep me in the loop. Agua Verde is one of our hot spots to jeep.
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Brecha is a primitive "road". Gringos know them as "Jeep Trails".
Terreceria is a graded road.
If interested refer to any Guia Roji atlas. Even though the two words are slang, the Mexican mapmaker marks his legend with them.
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motoged
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Thanks, guys....It sure would be nice to see a few picks of the rough stuff....an enquiring dirtbiker wants to know...
That's the route I figured on Google Earth....but GE is not the trail 
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David K
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It sure does...!
A life time of Baja traveling and exploring, and I will never see all of what Baja has to share!
Your web site reminds me of what Harry Lewellyn used to do in Baja... show people how to use their 4WD vehicles and show them Baja... Did you know
Harry? He authored 'Shifting into 4WD' and many articles.
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David,
Harry is a good friend of mine. We briefly worked together in 1987/88 or so.
Harald Pietschmann
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here is the loop:
http://www.baja101.com/first-adventure/first-calendar.html
Harald Pietschmann
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Just drove the Brecha 4 weeks ago to Aqua Verde- no problems but some spots with wash-outs and very rocky- slow going. 4x4 is a must and a tire
repair kit is also. We saw mountain goats near the coast, in the steeper mountains and two bobcats. There is a rancho, about half-way, that sells
Cokes and fixes tires, or so the sign sorta says.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 4x4abc
David,
Harry is a good friend of mine. We briefly worked together in 1987/88 or so. |
Harry attended my Viva Baja #3 event in Oceanside, back in 2002... I also bumped into him the year before in San Cosme off the Agua Verde road... the
tide was too high to drive to the hot springs... He called himself 'Silver Fox' I think when I first met him?
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4x4abc
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Yup - Silver Coyote
Harald Pietschmann
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4x4
Thanks for fixing the link, I learned something today. My first trip into AV was in the mid 80's around 85 or so not too long after they finished the
other road. I had no idea that your road existed. Usually when we go in there we camp at Playa Bonita, and then go into AV by boat so we would never
see the turnoff to Constitucion. I wonder how long that road has been there? Looks like a fun trip, I'll have to try it sometime.
Larry
PS I ran into a guy and his much younger wife at Bahia Animas years ago and as I remember he called himself Silver something, could that be the person
you and DavidK are talking about? He was leading a group of about 10 small SUV's on a tour of Baja.
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