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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by larryC
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Thanks for fixing the link, I learned something today. My first trip into AV was in the mid 80's around 85 or so not too long after they finished the
other road. I had no idea that your road existed. Usually when we go in there we camp at Playa Bonita, and then go into AV by boat so we would never
see the turnoff to Constitucion. I wonder how long that road has been there? Looks like a fun trip, I'll have to try it sometime.
Larry
PS I ran into a guy and his much younger wife at Bahia Animas years ago and as I remember he called himself Silver something, could that be the person
you and DavidK are talking about? He was leading a group of about 10 small SUV's on a tour of Baja.
[Edited on 12-27-2010 by larryC] |
Yah, that was him Harry Lewellyn...
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by larryC
4x4
Thanks for fixing the link, I learned something today. My first trip into AV was in the mid 80's around 85 or so not too long after they finished the
other road. I had no idea that your road existed. Usually when we go in there we camp at Playa Bonita, and then go into AV by boat so we would never
see the turnoff to Constitucion. I wonder how long that road has been there? Looks like a fun trip, I'll have to try it sometime.
Larry
PS I ran into a guy and his much younger wife at Bahia Animas years ago and as I remember he called himself Silver something, could that be the person
you and DavidK are talking about? He was leading a group of about 10 small SUV's on a tour of Baja.
[Edited on 12-27-2010 by larryC] |
Yah, that was him Harry Lewellyn... |
His old tour web site is still up:
TRIP LEADER: Harry Lewellyn
This exciting 4WD camping tour brings the mysterious Baja peninsula to life.
The tour description below is from a previous trip and is intended to give you an idea of what we'll do on this exciting trip onto the Baja Peninsula.
WHAT:
As we move down the peninsula, an unexpected desert forest unfolds like something out a movie. The giant card�n cactus and cirio "trees" line
our trail. We'll first scurry south to see an onyx quarry and get acquainted at out potluck dinner. Then, we'll work our way west to the ocean for
the night and the most spectacular little canyon and panoramic vista of the Pacific Ocean in Baja. From there, it's farther south to Guerrero Negro
for a night in town (hotel and group dinner included).
On another night, we'll camp at Mision San Borja and visit the remarkable well preserved Indian cave paintings. A massive herd of elephant trees,
deep blue water and sky, and offshore islands then herald our arrival to Bahia de Los Angeles and eventually Bahia de las Animas, about 40 miles to
the south.
At Las Animas, we'll trade our 4Xs for inflatables and take a closer look at the nearby offshore islands and bay for a few days. Here we can go
clamming and fishing, so bring your gear and some garlic!
Far too soon, the time comes to head north. On the way, we'll stop at Gonzaga and/or Puertecitos on our way to San Felipe for a night in a local
hotel. Tide permitting, we'll conquer the sands of the Sea of Cortez on this day's northerly run.
Our exit back to the U.S. will bring a contrasting surprise: Laguna Hanson, a pine forested, tropical storm fed lake area at 5,000 feet! From here,
it's just a few hours to our painless Tecate border crossing that will ease us back into the USA.
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Neal Johns
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Harry is a good dog! When he first started his tour business, he had no insurance, and used to cross the border near Signal Mountain!  That was before 9/11.
LarryC, you forgot to mention that "younger wife" was drop dead gorgeous, and smart too!
Harald, what you doing now? Met you once with Harry.
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Neal Johns
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Looking at Google Earth, I can't believe the dozens of ranches along/near the route after getting up the mountain! Interesting.
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Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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4x4abc
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yup, the "Silver something" guy with a much younger wife was most likely Harry Lewellyn. Not too many guides are active in Baja.
Harald Pietschmann
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larryC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
Harry is a good dog! When he first started his tour business, he had no insurance, and used to cross the border near Signal Mountain! That was before 9/11.
LarryC, you forgot to mention that "younger wife" was drop dead gorgeous, and smart too!
Harald, what you doing now? Met you once with Harry.
Neal Johns |
Neal
She was, and probably is, much more impressive than Harry, I can still picture her, but if I was to trip over Harry in the desert I wouldn't recognize
him. Fun people, everyone in their group seemed to be having a great time.
Larry
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elfbrewery
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Harald,
I noticed from your Google Earth trail that you went from Constitucion to AV. Is this true? The trail info indicates a 22% drop going into AV and
that the trip took 3.5 hours, of which 90% of the distance was covered in the first 2.5 hours. It appears you slithered down into AV.
Which way would you think would be better (with a 4wd jeep-like vehicle with a couple kayaks on top) -- Constitucion to AV or AV to Constitucion? (We
would take the other road to the NW of AV for the other segment.)
Thanks for the info and any advice you can provide.
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Marc
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Very nice. You may be hearing from me.
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bajaking76
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Nomads,
Google Earth has me seeing a road out of Agua Verde in a southwesterly direction that leads to Constitucion. Has anybody driven that or know about
it?
And I don't mean the highway
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According to the map from from Secretaria de Comunicaciones Y transportes(Mexican for the planning division) that I forgot to send to David (sorry).
There is a brecha from Agua Verde, it starts in San Jose de La Noria in a northwesterly direction and crosses through the villages of Sto. Tomas, EL
Pedregoso, San Miguel de Quepo. It shows it intersecting the main road into agua verde just west of Los Cerritos.
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David K
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I am patiently waiting for any and all Baja maps... always!
I would really like to have the Auto Club map from 1970-1973... I have one that is badly damaged and marked up... The auto club produced a very
detailed map of northen Baja on a large scale (as far south as just below El Rosario & Puertecitos) and on the reverse side was their older style
map of the rest of the peninsula.
If I can get a copy, I will scan and share it for a good look back at the roads in Baja 40 years ago...
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bajaking76
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Hey David, I just received the baja (Upper and lower) maps that I ordered from NatGeo, they are very detailed and cost me all of $20. Weather and tare
proof....here is the link...the maps I said I was sending you will be in your email today... ...
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/maps/travel-a...
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaking76
Hey David, I just received the baja (Upper and lower) maps that I ordered from NatGeo, they are very detailed and cost me all of $20. Weather and tare
proof....here is the link...the maps I said I was sending you will be in your email today......
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/maps/travel-a... |
Thanks!
Yes, I do have the Nat'l Geo maps (both sets... as the first printing had errors, like placing Mision San Pedro Martir at San Telmo, oh my!).
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