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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 10:07 AM


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You have a great way of getting us to like you.



Yeah....the troll came out of his closet.

Relax there, Chris. None of your imagined statistics mean anything. Just get up on your bike and ride. Until that day when you lube the CV Joints of a Kenworth with your entrails, have a good time.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 10:11 AM


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ignore negativity here.


I wouldn't do that. It's all part of the learning process. Part of life.
If you want to learn, pay attention to all of it.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 10:13 AM


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Lay off chrisx already. He knows now to bike off Mex. 1 for his own safety and others.

........... Have a great trip, and ignore negativity here.



Negativity???? YES


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Originally posted by chrisx like i said yanks are rotten to the core asking this retard to act nice is without hope


Stability? :?:

[Edited on 12-29-2010 by DianaT]




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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 10:18 AM


ChrisX, about what I posted in an earlier thread about you coming out swinging after your trip down the peninsula due to some honey breaking your heart down there, there's a place in Ensenada called Anthonys..............



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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 11:27 AM


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Unfortunately 90% of the aggressive drivers have US plates. mostly California and Arizona. Sadly people posting hatred towards bicycles realy drive that way. All bicyclists I talked with agreed with this statement. The 90%, not the posts. Not knowing how to drive is ignorance. Saying bad driving is the way to live, ... there are some sick sick people in the world, and the % with gringo plates is disproportionate.


It's not aggressive or "bad" drivers that are the problem, it's statistics. Sooner or later, on a blind curve, a truck, a car and a bicycle are going to all come together. I resent that the bicyclist puts the other drivers in the position of having to make the split second decision - "do I head-on the truck, or do I hit the bicycle". I only see one answer and I don't want to live the rest of my life with the consequence. If you want to ride Baja highways on two wheels, make sure it has at least 50 hp and can go 100 kpm.


if you cant see the problem you are the person this whole rant is directed towards
why are you driving beyond the capability of your brakes
why didn't you slow down instead of attempting to squeeze through
no car should ever be traveling so fast it cant stop if something appears in the road.
you say you were forced to suffer an ill emotion because you drive to fast and caused pain and death
why didn't you slow down
who is the most dangerous driver on the road?
not the foul mouthed mcbeer, probably has a pickup and only drives to the liquor store on Tuesday
not the tattooed punk looking for trouble he has fast reaction times and has only killed half his brain cells
not the guy in the semi truck they have professional training

the most dangerous person on the road is the person without the knowledge to hit the brakes and slow down.
the speed limit is not 100 kph
its 80 kph = 50 miles per hour
that's right the speed limit on Mex 1 is 50 mph max
not knowing or not caring makes you the most dangerous person on the road
in places were visibility is low it slows to 60 or even 40 kph that's not miles per hour, kilometers per hour
a person driving the speed limit would not have to make a split second decision. because you don't know that, you are the most dangerous person on the road
27 mph 40 kph = about 27 miles per hour

THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

the thoughtless driver is the most dangerous person on the road
instead of resisting the idea of safe driving, the rest of you should be helping to to educate or convince the thoughtless to drive in a safe manner.

[Edited on 12-29-2010 by chrisx]
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 11:53 AM


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We have seen many really bad accidents and one of the worst was when a motorcycle hit a cow.


Diana,
How much damage to the motorcycle??? :biggrin:

Was the cow on drugs or just stupid....or was it riding a bicycle ???:?:

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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 11:58 AM


Lots of archaeological sites, but you have to know what you're looking for - they're not signed or on the map because they've always lacked professional scrutiny. E.g., the entire Bahia San Ignacio area is covered with indigenous indicia. Not many structures to see - what you'll be looking for are tools, points, agave roasting pits, pot shards.

Simply looking for a nice place to camp sometimes shows traces of the days long before Mex 1 existed. The one time I showed some archaeologists an ancient fire pit and some stones used to crush? food of __--? They dug it up, its gone now. Camping the same place as people did ?,000 years ago is certainly a highpoint in the journey. Anymore if I find something I don't remember where it was. I would rather see it left alone than in someones private collection

there is plenty of history out there
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 12:10 PM


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We have seen many really bad accidents and one of the worst was when a motorcycle hit a cow.


Diana,
How much damage to the motorcycle??? :biggrin:

Was the cow on drugs or just stupid? :?:


The cow probably had a grudge against motorcycle riders---maybe they don't hit the brakes often enough. Or maybe some of them are drunk and just rotten people. :biggrin:

Seriously, this one really sticks with us because we came along so soon after it happened.

If I remember, I believe it was tripledigitken who also came upon this accident---that was before we knew him.

Anyway, it was awful. It was a group of hearing impaired riders---many couples who were touring Baja. It happened not too far north of Guerrero Negro.

It was on that stretch of road that everyone thinks is so straight and so it is safe to drive really fast---what they don't see are the many, many dips in the road where many accidents happen.

This couple was the lead couple and evidently by the time they saw the cow on the highway, they could not stop. The cow and the front rider on the motorcycle were killed and the passenger was in critical condition---never did hear if she made it or not.

Could list several more----nothing like dead bodies on the highway to slow you down. Also, it is a rare occasion that we drive the highway where we do not see an overturned big truck or at least the evidence of one recently overturned.

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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 12:15 PM
motorcycle hit a cow


Actually...on my motorcycle, I hit a cow on the back road here in the Sacramento Valley. Place called Green valley Road up behind the Nut Tree off I-80.

Rolling hills and lots of curves. Good thing I was slowing around before the bend....a cow just standing there.

One never knows whats to come...when driving.




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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 12:18 PM


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You'll have to barter or purchase from those whom you will meet along the way, or you will treated to the generosity of Baja Californios. Maybe get a truck ride for a span? But that's the charm of Baja CA.
Maybe check in here for more specific route planning as you progress.

Manny people offer me food and rides in there pickup. I'm very reluctant to accept free food. The one time I did, I gave the guy 50 pesos. I wonder what is appropriate? If someone gives me something I'm obliged to give them something, but what? Money? How much? Buy a carton of cigarettes and trade them for coffee? what is normal, or acceptable?

People in the back country offer me a ride all the time. I have yet to accept, My intended destination was to wonder the hills. getting there in safely is the problem, no little truck offered me a spin up Mex 1
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 12:37 PM


"I gave the guy 50 pesos. I wonder what is appropriate? If someone gives me something I'm obliged to give them something, but what? Money? How much?"

Difficult call in some situations. Most people just want to do you a favor. But an offer of expenses probably welcome, not expected. Someone once asked me to come over for coffee at a campground. I accepted and when I was leaving, tried to give him 20 pesos. It's certainly what I would have expected to pay for a cup of coffee somewhere, and I was happy to have it prepared for me. He was almost insulted that I offered to pay. I really wanted to give him something - little business for him - so I told him how much I appreciated other aspects of his campground. He finally accepted it. If I invite someone over for a shared meal, he/she is a guest; I believe the sentiment is likewise. Once when camping, I had an emptly plastic gallon container. Someone asked if he could have it and I gave it to him. I was happy to let him have it if he felt that it was valuable to him. Check in and let us know how your trip is going.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 12:43 PM


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We have seen many really bad accidents and one of the worst was when a motorcycle hit a cow....................

If I remember, I believe it was tripledigitken who also came upon this accident---that was before we knew him........................

Anyway, it was awful. It was a group of hearing impaired riders---many couples who were touring Baja. It happened not too far north of Guerrero Negro.



Diane,

You remembered correctly. I will never forget the sound of a women yelling/crying knelling next to the downed rider.

:(

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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 01:07 PM


The carnage of vehicle accidents is upsetting for all of us, regardless of the reasons for it.

We take risks everyday without necessarily recognizing the degree of the risks....as habits and routines keep things "normal"....seeing the injured and dead wakes us from that trance and magnifies the vulnerabilities we feel.

As an aside, it just occured to me that ChrisX is perhaps venting (with poor spelling and grammar, and a bit of bile) some sense of injury/trauma that he has experienced while bicycling Baja....his response seems more like that of a trauma victim than someone simply being disgruntled... I think his adventure presented him with experiences that didn't mesh with his expectations/trip fantasy.

The guidebook for that isn't in the travel section of the bookstore...:light:




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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 01:22 PM


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As an aside, it just occured to me that ChrisX is perhaps venting (with poor spelling and grammar, and a bit of bile) some sense of injury/trauma that he has experienced while bicycling Baja....his response seems more like that of a trauma victim than someone simply being disgruntled... I think his adventure presented him with experiences that didn't mesh with his expectations/trip fantasy.



I doubt it. He would have used the story to illustrate his points....unless he was one of the drivers.
I think he's just being cantankerous and came across a way to voice those skills.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 01:25 PM


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Then again, I am primarily Irish in descent.


That just makes you a better person. :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 01:30 PM


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.....Then again, I am primarily Irish in descent.


What are you in ascent?:lol:

I have some Irish blood in me....is that why I am good a recognizing someone being a dick, too?:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 02:51 PM


I am really confused... I thought he was asking about 'backroad guide books'... :?: :rolleyes: :lol:



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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 03:17 PM


David:

"Yes".....and "yes".....:biggrin:

Happy New Year :saint:




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You too Ged... Happy Boxing Day! (or has that passed already... and what is it, anyway?)



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[*] posted on 12-29-2010 at 03:32 PM


Are Patti and Tom Higginbotham, authors of Backroads Baja in this forum? Is this book available in Mulege. Sorry, for the on topic question :)



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