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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 10:55 AM
shocks suspension and Baja roads


Thanks for the great advice on the tires fellow Nomads I wenr with the LTX's due to your advice.

Now moving onto another important subject. Shocks and front end suspension
when is the right time to change them out?

MONROE? Sensatrac? BILL STIEN?
Pitman, rocker/crazy arms etc.
Please shsre your thoughts.
PS The free road between Rosarito and primo tapia is extremely dangerous when driving after dark due to all the pot holes.
Be careful this new year and all year fellow Nomads.




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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 11:11 AM


I would love to get some input on this as well. Last time I took my car in for service the mechanic was astounded by the amount of dust in every crevice in my car as well as the shocks on the front end being pretty much destroyed.



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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 11:16 AM


Bilstein... built for Baja... great on washboard roads... and low price! 5100s
Fox... on level higher.. more $$
King... the king of shocks, for a king's price $$$




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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 11:41 AM


Bilstein 5100s. 100%. Not excessively pricey, built very tough, great customer service. AND, they still ride well on the highway (whereas other, offroad-specific shocks do not...will kill your back). I have them on my Tundra and they have performed incredibly well in Baja.

If you do carry heavy loads at times, I would also augment with some Ride Rite Air Bags (which, I believe I learned about from David). Off-road with a loaded bed, they make a HUGE difference in stability.
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 11:53 AM


Great.....thanks for the info....Billsteins it will be!



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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 01:41 PM


I throw a vote in for Bilsteins also. Except for the old road to GONZAGA BAY.Melted two different sets on two different trucks....and I go "slow" also.
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 01:48 PM


Most anything will work if you know how to drive on rough roads.:light:
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 01:48 PM


Hehe. That very road is part of why I need new ones!



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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 02:43 PM


Quote:
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Most anything will work if you know how to drive on rough roads.:light:

Cypress, I'll bite, what is the proper way to drive on rough roads?
Larry
PS, As my avatar shows I'm not that great even on paved roads

[Edited on 12-30-2010 by larryC]
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 05:13 PM


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Cypress, I'll bite, what is the proper way to drive on rough roads?


Answer: Fast enough to reach the coast by sunset, slow enough to keep the Tecate from splashing in your lap.
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 05:16 PM


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Quote:
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Most anything will work if you know how to drive on rough roads.:light:

Cypress, I'll bite, what is the proper way to drive on rough roads?
Larry
PS, As my avatar shows I'm not that great even on paved roads

[Edited on 12-30-2010 by larryC]


everyone knows you must drive fast on bad roads. not only does it end sooner but you feel less ruts because you are flying over them instead of pounding into the bottom of every one....

unless, of course, you are heading southwest from san ignacio. that road will hurt you if you try to fly.....




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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 07:27 PM


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Bilstein... built for Baja... great on washboard roads... and low price! 5100s
Fox... on level higher.. more $$
King... the king of shocks, for a king's price $$$


Will Kings work for a Tundra? A bit heavier than your Tacoma.
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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 07:31 PM


You can get Kings for anything from a VW to a Trophy Truck.



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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 07:41 PM


Use the Bilsteins with the adj. spring seat. It will level the truck out depending on clip position choice, and they work great! My 06 Tundra loves them!



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[*] posted on 12-30-2010 at 09:03 PM


CONSIDER…
http://www.hellwigproducts.com/products/sway-control/truck-s...
For a Ford van, Bills rear cured rear axle steer. Adding Front Bills turned the van into a sloppy sedan not a delivery truck.
But the Hellwig rear bar planted all four wheels on the ground together almost all the time approaching an IRS effect on smooth roads. Reminds of the old Tiger Paw commercials.
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[*] posted on 12-31-2010 at 04:35 AM


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[*] posted on 1-2-2011 at 06:31 AM


Yesterday I replaced the right front Stabilizer Bar kit on my 2003 Ford Ranger Baja Mobile as it was toast. It took me a little over one hour. Here are some before and after shots.

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Next on the agenda is to replace my upper and lower ball joints.


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[*] posted on 1-2-2011 at 07:22 AM


A little tip David, those lower ball joints are pressed in, soak them with a good penetrating oil a few days before you do the work, you or your mechanic will be glad you did! The whole spindle will need to be pulled out of the way to pound out/press in the new joint, meaning the C.V. axle will need to be pulled out of the spindle, so soak that outer axle nut also. Try to find a new joint that has a zerk fitting so you can grease them later. The cheap ones, and the O.E. ones have no zerks. Same for the upper control arms/upper ball joints. The good replacement units have a replaceable ball joint with a zerk, the cheapies are one solid unit with no zerk and a cast in place ball joint. Have fun, I never have to do those damn Ford front ends again!!!



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[*] posted on 1-2-2011 at 08:06 AM


Thank you Bajabass for the information. I will heed your advice. I have been doing some research and found that the upper control arm and lower ball joints made by MOOG may be the best ones. Those have the zerks.

PS: I found these two instructional videoa on-line. What do you think.

David





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[*] posted on 1-2-2011 at 10:36 AM


If you drive really rough roads very often like the Gonzaga road I would suggest going with a Bilstein 5160 or a Fox with the external res. Both are in the $200 per shock range and are rebuildable, but you'll never need another shock for Baja.
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