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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 10:29 AM
Questions about things to take on Baja trip


So I am outfitting my WVO sprinter van for a trip next year. Here is how it is shaping up so far.

WVO powered sprinter van with diesel heater, oak insulated paneling, several sunroofs, and 3 bunks in back. Also have lots of extra parts & tools in the van. Putting an extra full size spare on a modified brush guard in the front, so will have two fulls size spares.

Would put my XR600R motorcycle in back. This could be used for exploring, and if the van breaks down I have a way to go get parts.

Pretty much have all the sweet camping stuff including coolers. Of course would need to bring $$$.

Getting into kiteboarding here in the Columbia River Gorge so would of course bring all the kiteboarding gear.

I am a big time fisherman. Don't really want to trailer my 18 foot avon down, so was thinking a small aluminum boat on top of the van might be the way to go (I have a nice yakima rack for the van). Could have a wheels on the transom with big fat tires good made for sand to get the boat down to the water, then strap a motor on back once it is down at the water.

Any body have experience with use of small open aluminum boats down in baja, would a small inflatable be better? Either way I would get a small gas motor. The inflatable would be good because I could deflate it put it up on the rack, then still have room for other stuff.

[Edited on 1-14-2011 by mackconsult]

[Edited on 1-14-2011 by mackconsult]




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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 10:53 AM


Wind is your friend kiting, but your enemy camping. Buy one of those swap meet type shade rigs with the flat tarp top and eight poles with four corner pieces. Legs are six footers and the horizontal pieces are ten footers (1" galvanized tube). Then get at least 22 feet of 6 foot wide shade cloth and enough clamps so you can wrap the cloth around two sides of the structure to keep out wind and sun. You can see through it, but it keeps the wind out. Now you have a bomb-proof 10X10 place to cook and hang out when it blows all day.



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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 11:04 AM


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Any body have experience with use of small open aluminum boats down in baja, would a small inflatable be better? Either way I would get a small gas motor. The inflatable would be good because I could deflate it put it up on the rack, then still have room for other stuff.

[Edited on 1-14-2011 by mackconsult]

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 11:17 AM


Thanks, I will buy it next paycheck.

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Originally posted by mackconsult
Any body have experience with use of small open aluminum boats down in baja, would a small inflatable be better? Either way I would get a small gas motor. The inflatable would be good because I could deflate it put it up on the rack, then still have room for other stuff.

[Edited on 1-14-2011 by mackconsult]

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http://www.coastguardcaptain.com/
http://www.go-sail.org/

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 11:18 AM


Actually a sprinter van makes for a great block against the wind. I already have plans to bolt some attachment points around the van so tarps can be used to shield from sun and wind. My trip report will show everything I did.

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Wind is your friend kiting, but your enemy camping. Buy one of those swap meet type shade rigs with the flat tarp top and eight poles with four corner pieces. Legs are six footers and the horizontal pieces are ten footers (1" galvanized tube). Then get at least 22 feet of 6 foot wide shade cloth and enough clamps so you can wrap the cloth around two sides of the structure to keep out wind and sun. You can see through it, but it keeps the wind out. Now you have a bomb-proof 10X10 place to cook and hang out when it blows all day.




97 XR600R Honda Dual Sport Motorcycle
98 18\' Avon RIB w/ 90 HP 4 stroke Yamaha
95 TDI Passat VW Wagon
05 2500 140\" sprinter van w/ v3 frybrid kit
08 Laser Pro #194171

Sail Smart, Sail Hard, Then think about Sailing Fast !!!!!

http://www.mackconsult.com/
http://www.coastguardcaptain.com/
http://www.go-sail.org/

Someday I will sell everything, invest in a 50ft sailboat, then turn left at the Columbia River Bar .
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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:23 PM


Yes, I would do the same with my van as a wind block. But, you can't always park your van in the ideal spot or at the ideal direction for wind blockage. That is why I liked the portable setup.



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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:41 PM


Tough call. Inflating/deflating a boat is rarely so quick and easy that you're always motivated to do it, but lugging a skiff up top takes up all that precious cargo space.

One thing I would say, if you can rig a detachable bimini of some sort to the skiff, go that route. The sun is murder fishing in Baja.

One mod I would strongly suggest for your rig - assuming you can find 'em to fit - is a set of Rite-Rite air springs. It sounds like your rig is gonna weigh a ton and those things make the offroad ride so much better. I cannot believe I survived for years w/o 'em...and they're not that pricey.
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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:46 PM


Actually the sprinter is a little better at loads than most vans. I already loaded it up for 10 days in yellowstone, including tons of WVO/wood/food and it did fine.

Mine has big 16" wheels, E rated tires, and planing on putting the KONI's on .....




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http://www.mackconsult.com/
http://www.coastguardcaptain.com/
http://www.go-sail.org/

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:53 PM


Copy that...but with a heavy load up top (ie skiff), will it sway/feel top heavy on the turns? In big winds (common) on sharp turns (common) I'm not a big fan of top heavy.
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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:54 PM


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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 12:56 PM


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I'm not a big fan of top heavy*.



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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 02:50 PM


Have you seen a sprinter van??? Good luck getting a heavy load up there .... which is not what I am talking about. Any boat I put on top of my van would be max 200 lbs. I have already driven my van down in the gorge with my laser on top and it was not a problem.

Besides I am going with an inflatable boat any ways.

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Copy that...but with a heavy load up top (ie skiff), will it sway/feel top heavy on the turns? In big winds (common) on sharp turns (common) I'm not a big fan of top heavy.




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98 18\' Avon RIB w/ 90 HP 4 stroke Yamaha
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05 2500 140\" sprinter van w/ v3 frybrid kit
08 Laser Pro #194171

Sail Smart, Sail Hard, Then think about Sailing Fast !!!!!

http://www.mackconsult.com/
http://www.coastguardcaptain.com/
http://www.go-sail.org/

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 03:01 PM


Air compressor (spend the money on a good one)
shovel
Tow Straps
Cans of Fix a Flat
Gas and water jugs
Spanish English dictionary
Give away items (clothes, toys, sporting goods, bottles of hooch)

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 03:34 PM


Thanks man. Already have the air compressor, shovel, tow straps, & fix a flat.

I like the give away items .... kids would like doing that

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Air compressor (spend the money on a good one)
shovel
Tow Straps
Cans of Fix a Flat
Gas and water jugs
Spanish English dictionary
Give away items (clothes, toys, sporting goods, bottles of hooch)

Bien Viaje
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98 18\' Avon RIB w/ 90 HP 4 stroke Yamaha
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05 2500 140\" sprinter van w/ v3 frybrid kit
08 Laser Pro #194171

Sail Smart, Sail Hard, Then think about Sailing Fast !!!!!

http://www.mackconsult.com/
http://www.coastguardcaptain.com/
http://www.go-sail.org/

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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 10:12 PM


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[*] posted on 1-14-2011 at 10:16 PM


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Good Swiss Army knife


Instead of a bad one? :lol:

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[*] posted on 1-15-2011 at 06:30 PM


I once saw some bad ones for sale--lightweight and sleazy, but they had the silver cross.

What I gotta question is Curt's list. Take booze to GIVE AWAY????




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[*] posted on 1-15-2011 at 06:47 PM


I would (and do) bring anything and everything I can think of, you never know but better to have it and not need it



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[*] posted on 1-15-2011 at 06:50 PM


OK Dennis. Give it to 'em.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2011 at 08:35 PM


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OK Dennis. Give it to 'em.



No can do, Marc. I had to promise not to post "The List" again for 30 days. They're pretty sure that's what took down the site the last time. :lol:
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