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toneart
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Cancer Treatment Centers in TJ
Gypsy Jan wrote in the MLK string:
"Coretta Scott King, after traditional U.S. medical treatments failed her, sought refuge in Rosarito for alternative medical treatment? Sadly, her
illness was so advanced she died shortly after arrival."
Does anyone know if any of those alternative cancer treatment centers in TJ and Rosorito are still operational? I knew a woman who was healed in one.
It was operated by a beloved doctor who also played the guitar and serenaded his patients.
They are considered unorthodox by some and for others, they insist that they perform miraculous healing.They are not bound by the restrictive,
expensive and conventional AMA cabal.
If so, what do you know or hear about them, reputation wise?
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DavidE
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One suggestion is to ask a reputable Mexican M.D. what he or she thinks of whatever clinic you're think about. I've found most Mexican doctors to be
brutally honest about other doctors and hospitals.
Like anything else related to the field of medicine, what you see is what you get. There is a popular saying that goes "When a rich gringo becomes
sick beyond the help of American hospitals he goes to Mexico, when rich Mexicans get gravely ill they head to the "United States".
A doctor that I've trusted for thirty years is Dr. Marco A. Molina Collins, in Ensenada. He works at the IMSS hospital and sidelines at his office
near the hospital. He speaks English and is one of the few truly gifted medicos that I have ever dealt with.
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I posted on that other thread. Noting that Steve McQueen's treatment regimen consisted of such things as coffee enemas, frequent showers and the
administration of laetrile. We all know how well that went.
That said, in this serendipitous world, there continues to be unexplained results from unconventional treatment. However, granting that anyone who is
faced with a grave diagnosis will understandably grasp at any possible alternative, I have to believe that there is no plausible reason that the
medical community in the US would suppress information that has any track record of success. If you can cure cancer with coffee enemas, and make a
profit, everyone would be at Starbucks for the raw ingredients.
[Edited on 1-17-2011 by Bajahowodd]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I posted on that other thread. Noting that Steve McQueen's treatment regimen consisted of such things as coffee enemas, frequent showers and the
administration of laetrile. We all know how ell that went.
That said, in this serendipitous world, there continues to be unexplained results from unconventional treatment. However, granting that anyone who is
faced with a grave diagnosis will understandably grasp at any possible alternative, I have to believe that there is no plausible reason that the
medical community in the US would suppress information that has any track record of success. If you can cure cancer with coffee enemas, and make a
profit, everyone would be at Starbucks for the raw ingredients. |
 
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Does anyone know if any of those alternative cancer treatment centers in TJ and Rosorito are still operational? I knew a woman who was healed in one.
It was operated by a beloved doctor who also played the guitar and serenaded his patients.
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Yesterday's paper said that the late pope John Paul is being canonized for healing someone with Parkinsons.
Perhaps we should submit the good doctor's name to the Catholic Church. One more miracle and he's eligible for sainthood.
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Gypsy Jan
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OK, My Very Small Two Cents Opinion
First start with Hospital Angeles. Ask them for referrals, they can help you in English.
Second or maybe first, start with Cento Medico Excel - hey. they did my double heart bypass and I am still annoying you guys.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Sallysouth
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Why would one want to go to Mexico for cancer treatment?Only if said person has been deemed inoperable or something else?(untreatable?) What I do know
is that the Cancer treatment Center here in So. Cal has healed my daughter, and it didn't cost a penny.There is so much new information and many
different treatments that they are using now.I would like to know the pros and cons of going to TJ or Rosarito for cancer treatments.We never know
when or if it will be us or a loved one.....the more info the better.
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sallysouth
Why would one want to go to Mexico for cancer treatment? |
Last resort. It's a sickening thing.
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stevelaubly
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Crappichino?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
He works at the IMSS
one of the few truly gifted medicos that I have ever dealt with. |
That is probably one of the most blatant oxymarooons to come my way in my life.
Social Security???? Gifted medico???????............Please..
More body bags roll out their back door in a month than came out of Saigon in a year. The place is a death sentance.
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There's another place in SD which I have heard nothing but good news and praise for curing cancer: http://gerson.org/GersonTherapy/gersontherapy.htm
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"The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the
treatment and cure of chronic debilitating illness."
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I repell from claims such as this. If the body had such healing mechanisms, it wouldn't need the parasitic assistance of Gerson.
Crap like this is no better than the Donsbach method in Rosarito.
How they avoid the scrutiny of the law is beyond me.
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We know several folks that came down as a last resort-sadly I can not think of one that is still with us
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sallysouth
Why would one want to go to Mexico for cancer treatment?Only if said person has been deemed inoperable or something else?(untreatable?) What I do know
is that the Cancer treatment Center here in So. Cal has healed my daughter, and it didn't cost a penny.There is so much new information and many
different treatments that they are using now.I would like to know the pros and cons of going to TJ or Rosarito for cancer treatments.We never know
when or if it will be us or a loved one.....the more info the better. |
"I would like to know the pros and cons of going to TJ or Rosarito for cancer treatments.We never know when or if it will be us or a loved one.....the
more info the better."- Sally South
This was what I wanted to know too, the pros and the cons.
Looks like most do not give them much credence.
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DavidE
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Sir Dennis,
May I have the opportunity of telling you about a California Health Clinic that had me on the short list to recieve new kidneys because a doctor's
finger drifted down one line as she was reading a lab result? Or the cardiologist that placed me on one of the world's most deadly medications
(amiodarone) on a maintenance basis simply because "He thought I needed it"?
Doctors are people. Many are imcompetant. Some should go into Real Estate. But I dearly hope when I take the time to list someone who I feel is
genuinely endowed with lots of common sense as well as medical knowledge that a fellow forum participant would at least consider the possibility that
I happen to know what I am doing. I studied medicine for several years before I became an EMT 2.
I did not endorse the "Importa Madre Su Salud" system. I identified it solely to help anyone interested in obtaining medical help in Ensenada to find
a good, reliable English speaking doctor.
Even a really bad automobile repair shop can have a talented mechanic and verse-visa.
Thank you.
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Lo Siento, Toneart...I'm still trying to master this !@%&*# copmuter stuff.
steve 
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>>"I repell from claims such as this. If the body had such healing mechanisms, it wouldn't need the parasitic assistance of Gerson." -
Dennis<<<
Most people and even a large perecentaage of physicians don't know how to take care of the human body. They don't know how to turn on the built-in
healing mechanisms. Diet and nutrition plays a huge difference in your health and vulnerability to disease. Gerson and others like them use nutrition
to cure you. If you get ahold of Dan Buettner's book "Blue Zones". This is an in-depth study of the areas in the world where people regularly live to
be over 100 years old. The most glaring commonality among these centurions is their diet... very much like the diet used by Gerson and other Natural
and
homeopathic healers. I have seen it work miracles.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
I did not endorse the "Importa Madre Su Salud" system. I identified it solely to help anyone interested in obtaining medical help in Ensenada to find
a good, reliable English speaking doctor.
Even a really bad automobile repair shop can have a talented mechanic and verse-visa.
Thank you. |
Well said. Thanks.
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The only time I would go to Mexico or any other country for treatment is
when there is a treatment that has already cured people
outside of the USA, but has not passed trials in the USA yet.
If it appears that it is safe and on the cutting edge of science,
and the disease will most likely kill you before the treatment is approved here. There are lots of places that unfortunately
will offer "cures" just to milk you out of what money you have /or do not have. Reminds me of the Doctors in the Philipines that via slight of hand
would pull out all manner of
bloody tissue from your body. Believe it or not!
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vacaenbaja
The only time I would go to Mexico or any other country for treatment is
when there is a treatment that has already cured people
outside of the USA, but has not passed trials in the USA yet.
If it appears that it is safe and on the cutting edge of science,
and the disease will most likely kill you before the treatment is approved here. There are lots of places that unfortunately
will offer "cures" just to milk you out of what money you have /or do not have. Reminds me of the Doctors in the Philipines that via slight of hand
would pull out all manner of
bloody tissue from your body. Believe it or not! |
Exactly!
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