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Pescador
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Tony, check out Quackwatch.com for some really interesting information about the Tijuana and Ensenada medical facilities. Anytime someone reports
lots of anecdotal records they always have a lot of cures and information, but when you dig into the info you may come up with different responses to
the whole thing.
I have a good friend who had cancer and went to one of the clinics in Tijuana because their theory was that they gave you insulin due to the theory
that cancer cells thrive on sugar, and then they would give you very small doses of chemotherapy, which was mostly watered down Cisplatin. Of course
they had all the anecdotal information about what was going on but no real data or scientific studies to back up any of that.
When my wife got lung cancer it seems that the reports of all the quacks and alternative medicines came out of the woodworks and a good number of
our friends kept sending me all this information about some new "miracle cure". Some even were very offended when I did not run down and get her
involved in "coffee enemas" and "vitamin overdoses" and the best of all, ground up tree bark from an Indian Reservation. Mostly what I found was
people who were hoping for a "Cure" and people who were willing to step outside of the "Traditional Medicine" alternatives but there was very little
if any evidence of effectiveness other than the anecdotal cures.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
We know several folks that came down as a last resort-sadly I can not think of one that is still with us |
back in the 60s when my father had inoperable cancer I used to take him to the (forgot name) clinc in TJ for laetrile treatments. on the first vist
they brpought a frail looking old lady in on a streacher and about 6 vists later I saw walk out; but did dhe actually have cancer or was she a plant?
all I know is that when my father died they told me that he waited to long to come down 
Bob Durrell
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Paulina
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My father was diagnosed with cancer. The tumor went from his lungs, up his neck and into his brain. My parents chose to take the TJ route vs. chemo.
They lived in their motor home at the border and were bussed across to the cancer doctors daily.
They were told that Western Medicine would be put out of business if the different treatments that were available in TJ were allowed to be used in the
U.S. The doctors also did their best to alienate my parents from the rest of our family by saying that we wouldn't understand what they were going
through and would only care about the $ they were spending.
After months of treatment and thousands of dollars he wasn't getting better, at least in our eyes. The doctors had them convinced that the reason he
was having seizures and lost the ability to talk was because the treatments were doing their job by shrinking the tumor, leaving air in the spaces
were the tumor used to be.
The time came that they moved my dad from his motor home to a clinic in TJ where he could get closer attention as he improved.
When I got the call from my mom to come take them home I found them in a piece of sheit, hole in the ground, old motel in the bowels of TJ. It was
around midnight so no doctors were on duty. The "clinic" was empty of any medical staff. I was able to use the phone at the front desk to call out to
the U.S. to our family doctor who was able to pull some strings to get an ambulance from the states to come down and take him home.
I also called the "doctor" who proceeded to tell me that I could not take my dad out of his clinic. He said that he was owed more $ and that if I did
try to take him out anyway he would call the Police and the US border officers wouldn't allow him to cross back into the states. He wanted me to wait
till morning when he could come down to the clinic and explain what my dad was going though and the progress he had made.
The ambulance was sent from San Diego and crossed through without any issues. We were in Glendale early that next morning.
He died three days later.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
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Sad Sad story. I am so sorry.
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Sallysouth
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Oh Crap.Thats a horiffic story, but very believable.Musta been very tough and painful for you and your family.So sorry Paulina.Thanks for sharing.
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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krafty
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Paulina-lost my mom to lung cancer as well, which metastisized into colon cancer-terrible couple of years-I feel for you. Thank you for sharing
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toneart
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Paulina; Krafty; Pescador, and others-
I am very sorry for your losses.
When I initiated this string I was just curious because I had known a woman who said she was cured by Dr. Contreras. I accompanied her to the clinic
(in the late 1980s) and saw lots of hopeful people undergoing infusions. Dr. Contreras was a kind person.
The extent of my inquiries was merely curiosity about whether they are still in practice and what the reputations were.
I thought we could all benefit from the information.You never know. I am skeptical by nature. It seems like there are a lot more like me. One needs to
sort through the experiences and weigh the biases of others.
Thank you for your responses. I hope it didn't unnecessarily dredge up any unhappy experiences in your memories.
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