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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
sounds like one leader with no sense, and 7 followers with less sense. |
Thanks for sharing, Goat Words of wisdom from you will be cherished
forever
Our intrepid leader (sort of) has read the posts and seems to have come to his senses...not that he was as stupid as Goat would believe 
Isn't it wonderful how a simple question gives rise to a plethora of unsolicited basura
Pompano, good to see you are still in the 'hood and thanks for the detailed
breakdown of times.
I will look for you between Feb 14-16th while I am in the Mulege area to say hola 
Don't believe everything you think....
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bent-rim
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I've had to drive at night out of necessity in Baja and it can be dangerous but it's doable. Go slow, there's lots of cows out there and I wouldn't
pass anybody. When driving in the States at night I use the oncoming headlights to judge whether it's safe to pass, however, in Baja I've noticed
alot of cars driving at night with no headlights, turns out they're "saving" them. I don't recommend it but I'll bet a bus full of hosers will do ok.
[Edited on 1-31-2011 by bent-rim]
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bent-rim
..... I'll bet a bus full of hosers will do ok. |
Hey, like take off, eh!  
If you didn't air-down so much, like you wouldn't bend the rim, eh!
Hoser: Canadian term referring to someone clumsy or stupid who drinks beer excessivly.
We should fit right in with many Nomads,eh!
Don't believe everything you think....
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elgatoloco
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http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data...
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Guerrero Negro (longitude W115.3, latitude N28.0):
Tuesday
15 February 2011 Universal Time - 7h
SUN
Begin civil twilight 06:55
Sunrise 07:19
Sun transit 12:55
Sunset 18:32
End civil twilight 18:56
MOON
Moonrise 14:53 on preceding day
Moonset 05:01
Moonrise 15:58
Moon transit 22:56
Moonset 05:49 on following day
Phase of the Moon on 15 February: waxing gibbous with 91% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.
Full Moon on 18 February 2011 at 01:37 (Universal Time - 7h).
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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Pompano
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CONTINUED - TRAVEL TIMES
Okay, we continue from where we stopped yesterday at El Rosario:
El Rosario Catavina
1 hour 40 minutes
Catavian BOLA turnoff
..1 hour 10 minutes
BOLA turnoff - Jesus Maria
1 hour 5 minutes
Jesus Maria - GN checkpoint
25 minutes
GN Vizcaino
.50 minutes
Vizcaino SAN IGNACIO
.60 minutes
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Subtotal hours El Rosario San Ignacio 5 hours 5 minutes
MY ACTUAL TOTAL DRIVING HOURS FROM TIJUANA SAN IGNACIO
10 HOURS 35 MINUTES
(about 540 miles)
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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motoged
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Pompanao,
Muchas gracias, senor 
Don't believe everything you think....
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captkw
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motoged,baja will accomadate 8 more
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David K
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Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?
i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?
Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos?
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos? |
David....what is this? Seriously. They charge for inspections and spraying for what?
Or did I miss something here and posted a very stupid question? 
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?
i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?
Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos? |
It was very early..barely dawn..when I pulled in at the Parallel 28 highway checkpoint. Also drizzling and cool, so it was no wonder nobody was
outside at the booth.
I stopped and waited a bit, then finally 2 guys came out..said one said good morning..asked me if I had any frutas? Munching on my banana, I said
.."Not any more...gulp."
The guy smiled... and then I asked how much was the spray today? I knew already of course...and handed him a couple 10 peso coins. (It's been 20
pesos since forever.)
They never asked for any ID's..tourist visas, my FM 2, etc..nor if I had any meat products. They have not asked for any of those items for quite a
while now. Going north is a little different, as they 'sometimes' ask for visas, ID's, etc.
The odd part was...as I drove away and across the built-in undercarriage sprayer, nothing happened..no spray..nada?
Hmm..? Your guess is as good as mine. All I can say is...nothing in Baja surprises me anymore.
edit: mcfez..just saw your question. They have been checking for fruits and meats coming from the north for many years now. Part of the controll
program for contaminated fruits..(insects, etc) and meats (thanks to the Mad Cow scare from Alberta a few years back..remember?)
This photo is from yesterday morning at the checkpoint..
[Edited on 2-1-2011 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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dtbushpilot
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Hey Ged, just got home to BV, weighing in a little late but better than never.
I was standing in line to get inspected at the border when Pompano pulled out of the inspection area. I would have stopped him to introduce myself but
he was concentrating on getting out without hitting anything so I didn't bother him.
They looked in the trailer and for the first time since I've been crossing with motorcycles asked to see the registration then tried to find the VIN
number, I didn't help much but was hoping they wouldn't make me unload it. He gave up and let me go, total time at the border:30 minutes.
I took off to try to run Pompano down but was unsuccessful. I drove between 60 and 65 mph on the straight sections and wasn't in too much of a hurry
and got to San Quintin at 5:00. I had to stop twice to tie the bike back down. It tried unsuccessfully to escape from the trailer, I narrowed the
problem down to the tire changing stand (yes, I travel light) bouncing against the release tab of the tie down. I stayed at Jardines...hard to beat.
Took off at about 7:30 heading South. Picked up the pace a bit and was doing about 65 to 70 mph on the straight road.
I arrived in San Ignacio 7 hours later without stopping for anything but gas and checkpoints.
Total time: 12 hours. Keep in mind that the first days travel was on Sunday which is the best day for traveling in Baja. The stretch between Ensenada
and San Quintin can be brutal on the wrong day and time....like Saturday or during the week.
I drove fairly conservative as I was pulling a small trailer but I doubt that you will make better time than I did. Don't try to compete with
co-pilot, she obviously learned to drive in Italy.
I know you and your friends are Baja veterans so I won't add to what has already been said except to say that: I know you want to have 10 days of
riding, 9 days are a lot better than no days.....nuff said.
I will be at Ignacio Springs, if your friends scare you have them drop you off and I will come up and get you.....looking forward to meeting you and
your friends and seeing some country.
be safe.....dt
[Edited on 2-2-2011 by dtbushpilot]
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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woody with a view
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don't tell anyone.... cross at 3.5-4am and until sun up you are on the toll road or cruising thru ensenada/maneadero and pulling the hills towards the
santo tomas checkpoint as the sun comes into your grill(s)..... nary a care in the world!
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David K
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Deno, for over 10 years they have been spraying the undersides of you car as you enter Baja Calif. Sur on Hwy. 1...
They charged 10 pesos originally I thought, and then 20 pesos. The guy wearing the gas mask asked me for a beer, but accepted a soda (or visa-versa)
in 2001.
Also at the state border... just south of the traffic circle/ monument, the immigration officer walks up to your window and asks (or used to ask) for
your papers (tourist card)... and sometimes did as you drove back north, too.
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dtbushpilot
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When I came through around noon yesterday they asked about veggies but didn't ask for 20pesos and didn't spray my car. They probably realized that
they had run out of spray when Pompano went through a few hours earlier......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Pompano
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dt...I am truly sorry we did not get a chance to meet. Our trip was..shall we say...'fast'....and some of it was at night.
Next time for sure.
Glad you were riding drag...just in case.
[Edited on 2-2-2011 by Pompano]
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dtbushpilot
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I kept an eye out for you, I stopped and said hi to Mike and Roz in Mulege on the way by, would have stopped at your place but wasn't sure where it
was. I'll be back up that way with those crazy canuks in 2 weeks, maybe we can meet up then....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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windgrrl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?
i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?
Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos? |
Came through in Dec. 2010 with a 23' lightweight RV. Paid and got sprayed by some weak solution. Transport truck in front of us was opened and
checked. Back doors swung open to reveal a truck full of ice chips.
It's worth watching the speed limits taking regular breaks and getting camped before sunset. We crossed early in Tecate, stopped at Catavina day one,
Loreto on Day 2 and finished up in the East Cape by mid afternoon on Day 3.
My tip is to stock up on low-sugar protein drinks and bars, freeze a bunch of high protein cooked meat-free meals like Tofurkey sandwiches on thick
bread and bean burritos to thaw on the dash so you don't have to cook or stop for meals. Stay healthy, get a good sleep and fill a thermos with
espresso at breakfast. Make frequent, quick pit stops and take brief walks at PEMEX stations. Once you reach your destination safely...it's margie
time!
Enjoy your trip!
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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DavidE
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I like to carry some cans of "Old Milwaukee". They'll ask for a cerveza the first time but I guarantee you they won't thereafter. At one reten way
down in Mexico I gave a mooching state cop half a roast beef sandwich smeared with tule lake horseradish set between sourdough buns. His face turned
purple and for a moment I was afraid he was going to draw his gun on me.
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by windgrrl
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Roger, what happened at the Eagle Monument/ State Border?
i.e., did they ask for your tourist card or FM-3?
Did the spray the underside or check for meat products... charge you 20 pesos? |
Came through in Dec. 2010 with a 23' lightweight RV. Paid and got sprayed by some weak solution. Transport truck in front of us was opened and
checked. Back doors swung open to reveal a truck full of ice chips.
It's worth watching the speed limits taking regular breaks and getting camped before sunset. We crossed early in Tecate, stopped at Catavina day one,
Loreto on Day 2 and finished up in the East Cape by mid afternoon on Day 3.
My tip is to stock up on low-sugar protein drinks and bars, freeze a bunch of high protein cooked meat-free meals like Tofurkey sandwiches on thick
bread and bean burritos to thaw on the dash so you don't have to cook or stop for meals. Stay healthy, get a good sleep and fill a thermos with
espresso at breakfast. Make frequent, quick pit stops and take brief walks at PEMEX stations. Once you reach your destination safely...it's margie
time!
Enjoy your trip! |
Tofurkey sandwiches......now that's funny, I don't care who you are.....
windgrrl, I'm in BV, lets get together for a beer......dt
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mcfez
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Thanks for explanations Pomp and David
It's all news to me! Asleep again I must be
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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