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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:35 AM


IWPA,

You had asked for advice and I gave you my honest opinion based on what I would do.

What some have brought up here is perhaps, more important to you and I understand that; one buys a house for a long-term occupancy, to enjoy. One should NOT consider a house as an investment, especially during these times. You have expressed that yours is a quality of life choice with the intention to live there for many years.

So, pending diligent research, go for it! I would suggest, however, that your mind was already made up before you posted on The BajaNomad. You were just looking for encouragement that would support your decision. Given the reputation and desirability of the Club Marena Condo Development, you have indeed found the support you were seeking.

To those who suggest that IWPA has "money to burn", I doubt whether he considers that he might have. I think that his decision is based on visualizing a life in the Club Marina.

In my experience, the more money one has, the more they feel threatened that they may lose it. I have never known any wealthy people who feel they have "money to burn" except for the "Nouveau Riche. For them it is all about the flash and the bling.




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:49 AM


I think Club Marina looks glorious in the real estate ads I googled. go for it!

now if anyone wants to help a poor deserving Bajanomad reach such a lifestyle, only 25k a day would make a big difference in the life of little Robertita (insert photo of big eyed child here). checks and money orders welcome or we can set up an autodeposit account for your convenience....




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:53 AM


Roberta.
25K , $25.000 a day?? Aren't you a little extravagant.:biggrin::biggrin:




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:08 AM


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You had asked for advice and I gave you my honest opinion based on what I would do.



You don't have to explain yourself, Tony. lwpa's request for knowledgeable input on half million dollar condos here was not much different from asking the Mixtec field hands in Maneadero what they think of your new Ferrari.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:14 AM


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You had asked for advice and I gave you my honest opinion based on what I would do.



You don't have to explain yourself, Tony. lwpa's request for knowledgeable input on half million dollar condos here was not much different from asking the Mixtec field hands in Maneadero what they think of your new Ferrari.


Would love to see a picture of your new Ferrari.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:17 AM


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Would love to see a picture of your new Ferrari.


Tony has the new Ferrari. Not me. He's having a winch installed next week so he can go off-road.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:20 AM


Keep your fingers off it...and get off my lawn!:lol::lol:

Uh, the word is wench, not "winch". :P:lol:

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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:21 AM


"... all cash, about $580,000. Are we making a huge mistake?"
Will this be your primary residence? Will your heirs have to sell it? Did you see many, many other properties in comparison? If you're going to spend a majority of the year in Baja CA, I would definitely see what else $500,000 will buy. And definitely get your own buyer agent. Can you rent a month or two before you make up your mind? Test the waters? The concept that a comparable property would be worth $3 million in the US is just too simplistic - don't let that sway you.
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:24 AM


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"... all cash, about $580,000. Are we making a huge mistake?"
Will this be your primary residence? Will your heirs have to sell it? Did you see many, many other properties in comparison? If you're going to spend a majority of the year in Baja CA, I would definitely see what else $500,000 will buy. And definitely get your own buyer agent. Can you rent a month or two before you make up your mind? Test the waters? The concept that a comparable property would be worth $3 million in the US is just too simplistic - don't let that sway you.


Uh, you're too late for the moving day party, Wilderone. ;)




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:46 AM


IWPA, Always remember to look both ways before you cross the street.:yes:
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:50 AM


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"... all cash, about $580,000. Are we making a huge mistake?"
Will this be your primary residence? Will your heirs have to sell it? Did you see many, many other properties in comparison? If you're going to spend a majority of the year in Baja CA, I would definitely see what else $500,000 will buy. And definitely get your own buyer agent. Can you rent a month or two before you make up your mind? Test the waters? The concept that a comparable property would be worth $3 million in the US is just too simplistic - don't let that sway you.


Uh, you're too late for the moving day party, Wilderone. ;)
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:54 AM


Asking for advice on this purchase is complicated.

Some won't even stop in RB.

Most don't have the money for a $580,000 house in the US, let alone to spend in Mexico.

It looks like a beautiful area and if you can afford it, I mean really afford it, and you will be happy to live in RB, go for it.


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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:54 AM


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"... all cash, about $580,000. Are we making a huge mistake?"
Will this be your primary residence? Will your heirs have to sell it? Did you see many, many other properties in comparison? If you're going to spend a majority of the year in Baja CA, I would definitely see what else $500,000 will buy. And definitely get your own buyer agent. Can you rent a month or two before you make up your mind? Test the waters? The concept that a comparable property would be worth $3 million in the US is just too simplistic - don't let that sway you.


now that he has explained his purchase of large penthouse and that he is retired, sounds a little better.

best advice for sunset years is spend, baby, spend, because you can't take it with you!

of course, that is good advice for all years!
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:56 AM


You guys and gals remember when one of the buildings burned up at club Morena? They just patched it all up again? Just redicoulos? Or am i just nutts? That tells alot about that place im sure theres a few of you that know what im talkin about? Why dont you ask the management group at club morena about that situation? Theres is no value in a burnt building thats been put back together. Maybe thats not the one your buying but that tells a lot about a place im just sayin~:-)



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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 11:59 AM


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If it were located anywhere in the US on the ocean the price would range from around 3.6 to 5 million.


maybe so in so cal, but even in so cal you can get condo on beach for under $3.6M. and if you go to more remote locations, $3.6M will buy some pretty nice waterfront RE.

anywho, sounds like you found a place you like, and I say go for it (just don't use the condo mgt staff as your buyers agent, that sounds like ripe opportunity for COI)
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 12:04 PM


Also i just remember that the hospital next to Club Morena is always dumping hospital bio~hazard in the water, one time i was surfng there at k~38 and all this crap was coming out from that place it was disgusting it looked like an oil spill just so sad that small bay was awesome back in the day ~



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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 12:16 PM


A couple of comments/questions:

1) The $580k for this place is the listing price. Are you paying asking price?
If so, this is going to be one happy seller. I hope you end up being a
happy buyer too.

2) What is the amount of HOA fees?

Sure sounds like a lot of money for a condo is "today's" real estate market, more so in Mexico. I have been seeing some people doing a lease/option. This allows them to get a full feel for the place they are buying just to ensure they really want the place and also to fully learn everything about the individual unit and issues with the association etc.

You should keep in mind: YOU ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT!! Make sure you get everything you want. It is just so easy to fall in love with Baja. I have seen too many people buy a place for a big chunk of change and then it just sits empty for many various reasons. Was just down in the immediate area for the past month and the place we stayed had a good view of these towers. Could hardly see the place at night and remember saying to my wife "look at that...you can not even see those big towers like you can in the daytime...no lights on in any of the units."

I wonder how many total units are in this place, how many fulltime people reside there whether they are owners or renters. Also, how many people that own there are in default on the HOA dues.

It does really sound like you posted to get an endorsement rather than input. Not may people running around Baja plunking down a half a Mil or more for places at the moment. You are a rare commodity is this market, more so for Baja.

If I were spending the money I would grind on the price, grind some more and then grind a little more. You may find you can keep some of your money in YOUR pocket. And, I would not give a hoot that the place "was" worth $1.5M at one point in the time, the owner orginally listed the place at $1.2M and has reduced it blah, blah blah.

Have heard nothing but good things from other people that either own or have lived in this development.

Good-luck!!
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 12:21 PM


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Originally posted by lookingandbuying
A couple of comments/questions:

1) The $580k for this place is the listing price. Are you paying asking price?
If so, this is going to be one happy seller. I hope you end up being a
happy buyer too.

2) What is the amount of HOA fees?

Sure sounds like a lot of money for a condo is "today's" real estate market, more so in Mexico. I have been seeing some people doing a lease/option. This allows them to get a full feel for the place they are buying just to ensure they really want the place and also to fully learn everything about the individual unit and issues with the association etc.

You should keep in mind: YOU ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT!! Make sure you get everything you want. It is just so easy to fall in love with Baja. I have seen too many people buy a place for a big chunk of change and then it just sits empty for many various reasons. Was just down in the immediate area for the past month and the place we stayed had a good view of these towers. Could hardly see the place at night and remember saying to my wife "look at that...you can not even see those big towers like you can in the daytime...no lights on in any of the units."

I wonder how many total units are in this place, how many fulltime people reside there whether they are owners or renters. Also, how many people that own there are in default on the HOA dues.

It does really sound like you posted to get an endorsement rather than input. Not may people running around Baja plunking down a half a Mil or more for places at the moment. You are a rare commodity is this market, more so for Baja.

If I were spending the money I would grind on the price, grind some more and then grind a little more. You may find you can keep some of your money in YOUR pocket. And, I would not give a hoot that the place "was" worth $1.5M at one point in the time, the owner orginally listed the place at $1.2M and has reduced it blah, blah blah.

Have heard nothing but good things from other people that either own or have lived in this development.

Good-luck!!
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 01:56 PM


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Roberta.
25K , $25.000 a day?? Aren't you a little extravagant.:biggrin::biggrin:


hey, I'll settle for 25 cents a day, but this is Baja...think big!




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 03:26 PM


:also..the is talk about building a marina in the area..don't know if its' true or not...look into it...could be goo or not....but the break will change
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