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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 09:05 AM
Fuel price changes mindset


Due to the high cost of fuel being predicted ($5.50 by June1), I am buying a smaller "get around" car. 40mpg to my 10 mpg Dodge truck....change is in need. My truck is not needed every time I head for Baja.

Here's my question....

Should I ever drive this little car to Baja...are parts reasonable avail for these brands: toyota echo or kia rio




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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 09:10 AM


Get a used Chevy Tracker or a Suzuki Vitera, 2dr, softtop, 5sp, 4x4

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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 09:13 AM


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Should I ever drive this little car to Baja...are parts reasonable avail for these brands: toyota echo or kia rio



Kinda depends on the car, Deno. If it's one of them Maseratis, you may have a problem. Any common, working man's car, no problem.
What are your intentions? To immediatly tear hell out of your new eco-ride?
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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 10:13 AM


Any color other than red you will be fine!!:o



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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 10:21 AM


the new Kiaota would be the ultimate small car for Baja:




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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 11:40 AM


Or get one of these. Hook up a set of horses and fill 'er up with a couple of bales of hay...

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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 11:45 AM


--------or invest in the Vanguard Energy Fund which MORE than compensates you for the higher fuel prices. :spingrin:

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[*] posted on 3-5-2011 at 05:45 PM


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Should I ever drive this little car to Baja...are parts reasonable avail for these brands: toyota echo or kia rio



Kinda depends on the car, Deno. If it's one of them Maseratis, you may have a problem. Any common, working man's car, no problem.
What are your intentions? To immediatly tear hell out of your new eco-ride?


.......tear hell out of your...
I do that already :-(

I'm old fashion.....it kills me mentally to pump $80 into the tank every other day. I have to take my son into town from the farm for his private school. ...plus routine stuff. Driving to Baja in the truck is 827 miles ./. by 10 mpg @ $4.00 PG = $640.00 per round trip. A toyota echo or kia rio will pay for itself within 14 months.....from the savings of non weekly use of the truck.

The Ram will be used strictly for the landscape contracting business. I'll secure a truck or rail and keep that at the Baja House.

[Edited on 3-6-2011 by mcfez]




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 07:56 AM


I just love my Prius and it goes beyond the 45 mpg. It's a well built car with all the room I need.




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 08:07 AM


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I just love my Prius and it goes beyond the 45 mpg. It's a well built car with all the room I need.


Excellent Howard...txs for your feedback. Have you gone long distances with it? Comfee ?




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 08:58 AM


i'm feeling SOOOO good about my 13.5-15 mpg in my tundra right now. but she only gets out when i head south, so not really a problem for me. plus, living 7 miles from the border means that all of the miles are in baja so i don't mind. it's why i bought her after all.

edit: AND with gas being +/- $.50gal cheaper in baja it's like i have more money to spend on Srhimp (not a typo!) tacos!

[Edited on 3-6-2011 by woody with a view]




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 08:59 AM


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I just love my Prius and it goes beyond the 45 mpg. It's a well built car with all the room I need.


Excellent Howard...txs for your feedback. Have you gone long distances with it? Comfee ?


lots of nice econo cars out there. prius is fun, but visually boring.
the new mini countryman is nice looking. mini on steroids, capable of seating 4 comfortably, with room for some luggage. has higher ground clearance too.
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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 09:36 AM


In Baja I have a 1998 4 cyl Toyota Tacoma 4x4 that gets 14 mpg in town. At home in So Calif I have a 2000 Toyota Echo, 4 door, that I bought about 5 years ago for $5,000 USD (it had 60,000 miles at the time). I consistently get 40mpg plus on the Echo with a combination of freeway and in town driving (mostly in-town driving) employing 'hyper-miling' driving techniques (e.g., driving the speed limit, coasting as often as possible, modest accelerating off the line, staying under 70 mph on the freeway, anticipating stop lights and slowing down early instead of using only brakes to come to a stop). The Echo is extremely reliable and comfortable, zippy, great peripheral vision capabilities for safety, great a/c, heater, and very road worthy. I am happily married and not looking for women to admire me, so I don't give a potter's dam what people think of me when I am seen in my Echo in Orange County.

Considering getting a similar Echo for Baja (it would be great for easily parking in-town, La Paz, a crowded down town city). Makes absolute perfect sense to do so. I would hope that we Americans would start using some wisdom and maturity and go to much smaller cars for basic transportation.


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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 10:21 AM


My opinion only, but as I see it there is no supply problem. Higher prices are the result of oil speculators taking advantage of unrest in the middle east to bid up the futures price. The bubble will pop at some point in the next year and prices will come back down slowly, prices being sticky downward, to near where they were a couple months ago. However, I think they will settle a bit higher than the last low we saw. So, can you ride it out for 12 months or so in your guzzler?
Looks like we might have to put off the cross country motorhome trip this summer. Too bad.

On the topic of economical cars. I think any little somewhat newer car you buy would be no problem for highway driving down here. They are all pretty darn reliable.




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 01:05 PM


I think many have!


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Considering getting a similar Echo for Baja (it would be great for easily parking in-town, La Paz, a crowded down town city). Makes absolute perfect sense to do so. I would hope that we Americans would start using some wisdom and maturity and go to much smaller cars for basic transportation.


[Edited on 3-6-2011 by MitchMan]
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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 01:28 PM


The old VW Bugs would get 30MPG, if they got stuck you could easily push/pull 'em to solid ground. Air cooled, high milage/gallon,skid plate, etc. and now we have what?
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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 02:55 PM
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I have gone from L.A. to Sacramento several times, camping into the Sierra's and find it very comfortable. I am a big person and have no problem getting in or getting out. Lots of room in back and does not ride like a small light car probably because of the weight of the batteries. 70,000 total miles, no problems at all. One time I had it up to 90 MPH with the air con on and it had no problem doing that. You can U-2-U me if you need any other feedback. It does not get to good of gas mileage in the hills.




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 03:23 PM


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I have gone from L.A. to Sacramento several times, camping into the Sierra's and find it very comfortable. I am a big person and have no problem getting in or getting out. Lots of room in back and does not ride like a small light car probably because of the weight of the batteries. 70,000 total miles, no problems at all. One time I had it up to 90 MPH with the air con on and it had no problem doing that. You can U-2-U me if you need any other feedback. It does not get to good of gas mileage in the hills.


Well...great info coming in here from my Noman tribesmen! Please....keep it coming in.

Howard...txs 4 that info...as we do too run to the Sierras / coast often. I myself am not a skinny ol boy.

All this could be worst....waiting in the lines like back in the 70's!!! :mad:




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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 03:38 PM
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A few days back in the L.A. [Socialist] Times Business section, there was an article wherein one analyst speculated that a LOT of people were going to make the mistake of running out and buying New Fuel-efficient vehicles based upon the "Current" Run-up and who would then find themselves with Buyers remorse when prices once again moderated given how long it would take for the purchase to reach a Break-Even point.

He said "It's like looking out the window at the rain and thinking it's going to rain non-stop for four years".
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[*] posted on 3-6-2011 at 04:12 PM
My personal observations thus far..


My Jeep Wrangler Rubicon on 33" flotation tires gets 16 mpg (combined city/hwy) when driven conservatively. When I drive the Honda Pilot, I get 19 mpg in combined city/hwy use.

My question to McFez is - if you bought a small run-about for Baja use, how would your family fit inside?

Would you pack this car like a family of backpackers?

When driving at night, how safe is your family in a small run-about vs. your full-size pickup? Is this worth taking a chance??




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