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heike
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Best Fish Identification book for Baja
Hello Everyone
I would like to get a good fish identification book for baja fishing... any recommendations?
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Alan
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http://www.amazon.com/McClanes-Field-Saltwater-Fishes-Americ...
I think this is the same book I keep on my boat but it is a newer edition so the cover is different.
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coronamike
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Fishes of the Pacific Coast. By Gar Goodson. Great book. Small paperback. Has every fish I've ever seen in Baja. Good luck
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ElFaro
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Try this...
Excellent rendition of each species.
http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Fish-Pacific-Vic-Dunaway/dp/0936...
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Skipjack Joe
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The Gar Goodson is really great and probably better than this one for what you need. But this one is more comprehensive. This is the one I've been
using for years.
A Field Guide to Pacific Coast Fishes : North America (Peterson Field Guides)
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Alan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by coronamike
Fishes of the Pacific Coast. By Gar Goodson. Great book. Small paperback. Has every fish I've ever seen in Baja. Good luck
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Bingo! That is the one I have!
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marv sherrill
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Here are 2 books that I use all of the time - Nice little paperback - Gulf of California Fishwatcher's Guide by Thompson and McKibbin, and the Picture
book by Daniel Gotshall - Marine Animals of Baja California. Also Reef fishes of the Sea of Cortez - hard back - is absolutely the best, but more
expensive.
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JaraHurd
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As far as a fish ID book for fishing, there is a chapter in The Baja Catch (3rd Edition) with a decent description of most fish you are likely to
catch in Baja. It is not a great fish ID book but the chapter is helpful and the book itself is a fun read and break down on fishing Baja..
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mcfez
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The Baja Catch....it does have a decent chapter on this subject.
You may want this book too.........if your out fishing for dinner
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by coronamike
Fishes of the Pacific Coast. By Gar Goodson. Great book. Small paperback. Has every fish I've ever seen in Baja. Good luck
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x2 times 1,000,000...damn good book.
The baja catch is for newbies, it is great if that is you and you rarely fish in baja, but it leaves a lot to be desired on all accounts. It says that
you are most likely to catch a striped marlin while fishing out of a tin boat on the eastcape for petes sake!! I probably have fished 1500-2000 days
on the eastcape in a tin boat and have had only 3 marlin hookups. must be that I am not using rebel fast tracks!!
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redhilltown
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I gotta defend Gene and the Baja Catch here!!!!!!! Where does it say you are "likely" to catch a Marlin fishing their style? I love it and use it
and I am by no means a newbie to fishing in Baja...it just might not be YOUR particular style of fishing. You don't get the 20 rods (re:
$5,000.00...er, $10,000) flying in the breeze, or the soft compy seats, or the nice bait tanks but you get up and close and personal to the real Baja
coast...if you wanna tie up and jump onto that little island and walk around you do it. If you wanna get way off road with your car topper and launch
in the middle of nowhere you do it...away from the crowds and the boat ramps and the drunken, chest beating "I caught a 150 pounder" types. Which is
fine...but not for everyone.
That said, your "fast track" comment is pretty damn funny and right on! 
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redhilltown
I gotta defend Gene and the Baja Catch here!!!!!!! Where does it say you are "likely" to catch a Marlin fishing their style? I love it and use it
and I am by no means a newbie to fishing in Baja...it just might not be YOUR particular style of fishing. You don't get the 20 rods (re:
$5,000.00...er, $10,000) flying in the breeze, or the soft compy seats, or the nice bait tanks but you get up and close and personal to the real Baja
coast...if you wanna tie up and jump onto that little island and walk around you do it. If you wanna get way off road with your car topper and launch
in the middle of nowhere you do it...away from the crowds and the boat ramps and the drunken, chest beating "I caught a 150 pounder" types. Which is
fine...but not for everyone.
That said, your "fast track" comment is pretty damn funny and right on!
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look in your copy under plumo shoals, it is under the likely catch...i haven't read it in yrs, but I still remember it. If I am wrong I will buy you a
ballena!
The baja catch was a favorite book of mine several yrs ago when I first moved to the eastcape, and after fishing countless days here I don't think
they fished many days on the eastcape. Maybe the book is Tit's on up north, but I find it very limited for this area. My baja fishing experience is
limited to the eastcape area
only 20 rods?? that is child's play....
I only take 6 roads with me, I have no seats I tore them out, as I did with every other thing in the boat that was not necessary, so I can beach
launch a 16' bayrunner solo. I like catching fish, lots of fish..if it weighs 150lbs or more all the better. Sorry to say I have never landed a fish
that size...my biggest to date is a 75lb roosterfish from the beach...and it wasn't on a Rebel.
To each his own, the baja catch is great is you are after reef fish or other shallow water species. I like to troll fast and cover a lot of ground. A
rebel leaves the water at about 5mph, I troll about 12-14mph, but then again, I am looking for Wahoo, Dorado, Tuna and hopefully I'll finally catch
that striped marlin, the last 2 broke my 20lb line
[Edited on 3-20-2011 by fishabductor]
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redhilltown
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I was messin with ya in the best spirit of grumpy fisherman abductor! Your style sounds great and I am jealous...maybe I have "boat length envy" 
Now, go catch a 100 pound roosterfish! I have the Advil ready.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redhilltown
I was messin with ya in the best spirit of grumpy fisherman abductor! Your style sounds great and I am jealous...maybe I have "boat length envy"
Now, go catch a 100 pound roosterfish! I have the Advil ready. |
No worries...no offense taken or meant
I actually did have a possible 100lb'r rooster on this past summer. It took a 10lb peanut dorado that I was bringing in to release, it was about 4
miles out and it was the biggest rooster I have ever seen. It let go of the dorado about 10' from the boat after attacking it multiple times.
The 75lb rooster kicked my ass up until it died of a heart attack, I can't imagine what a 100lb'r would do.
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When was The Baja Catch written? Probably could catch marlin in your tin boat 30 ft from shore then......all in all it IS a great book with alot of
good information, especially for us "newbies" that can only get down 1-2 times a year.
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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Here's my take (below from a 2010 post I did) on "The "Baja Catch": it's great. So far the book has been on the money. Yes....it's years later when
this book was published, and there is a significant less fish count in the Sea of Cortez. Still...each time out was great. Would I go for the big game
with the set up (boat)....no.
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A secret fishing hole
Trying out something new, I went out and bought a Gregory welded boat, rigged it up exactly as they did in "The Baja Catch"...Everything is redone or
new except the anchor and rope.
Just amazing results! So now I have a little putt putt to access more that just the surf (which is supremo fishing too).
My first spot last week....a spot that is written in a book, and told to me by two different fellows. I have heard fish stories.... theses guys told
me a whooper lived in the cove....as did the book. Grouper and Trigger fish.
So after launching off the ramp in Puerticitos....I spot hit few places...no takes. It's been windy for five days...
So now comes the secret fish spot....and a fish story that you may not believe!
Coming into the little cove, I threw my anchor in. The cove at that spot is a whopping 45 feet deep according to my anchor line.
Geared up with:
Opus Plus 5500
Sambre SC700 7'
40 lb line
2 oz sinker
3/0 hook
Salted medium size shrimp
Drop cast in, set the rod on the holder.....all within 15 seconds....something bent my rod wildly into the water...I grabbed the rod, the freakin boat
tilt sideways to within two inches from the water line....line snapped. It must have been the "one". I am 245 lb plus the stuff in the boat...and it
damn near overturned the boat!
Had to back up the boat again...anchor must have been dragged by the current or fish? Threw the anchor out and it went ....woooooooooo! The rope
undone' d. &&*(^^&$#%
True story.
The guy off the rocks was catching fish as though he was using a vacuum cleaner. I was catching anger.
So.....here's a map of the best hole in the Puerticitos area. @ 2 miles downward south. 15 minute small craft ride.
Up on the bank....look for a pink trailer with a roof over it, few houses. There's a area there to launch a light boat too. The highway is right
there.
[Edited on 10-29-2010 by mcfez]
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The book has it's uses, but I have caught fish all over the U.S. and Mexico trolling crankbaits! Fresh and salty water. Good way to find active,
aggressive fish. Many areas they wrote about in that book have long since been fished out!
Just picked up the "The Book Of Fishes" Food Fishes, Game Fishes, And Other Inhabitants Of North American Coastal And Inland Waters
Printed in 1939, it is actually pretty complete, and the old photos are great! Used book stores are a great place to fill out your fishing library.
I prefer to browse and review before I buy. Hard to do on the web.
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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Skipjack Joe
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"The Baja Catch" is the best book every written on fishing baja.
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JaraHurd
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I don't spend a whole lot of time researching fishing in Baja because I don't have a lot of time as i work 12 hour days..BUT..The Baja Catch is fun to
read and tends to pump me up. When I drive to Baja I usually hire locals anyway..so..that is the knowledge I rely on. But that book is great..as is
another book I found as a result of this website called The Angler's Guide To Trailer-Boating Baja by Zack Thomas. That book is helpful and fun to
read...but..hell..I don't know how accurate either is..just know they are fun books.... I don't think any book is going to be a accurate as local
knowledge no matter where you are....and thank God for that....
Not much in the way of fish ID in that book (trailer boating guide) though..
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I agree that the Baja catch is the book for how to fish Baja. But in terms of helping to identify fish, the best resource I have used is the Reef
Fishes of the Sea of Cortez by Thompson and Kerstich. Here's a link:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=reef+fishes+of+the+...
I use this book in my classes and it has served my students well to identify even the most obscure catches. Most other books/cards focus on common
fish in each region, and fail to even mention most other fish that can be encountered. This is the most comprehensive guide out there, and offered at
a fairly decent price ($16) too.
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