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Cypress
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toneart, Right!! An open mind.
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AmoPescar
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RE: ...HEALTH WARNINGS ABOUT EATING FISH?
It's a well known fact that different environmental factors can affect the safety of the fish we eat!
High levels of Mercury and Agricultural Pest control chemicals are two of the better known problems.
In 2008 the well known actor Jeremy Piven ('Entourage') was diagnosed with 'Hydrargaria' (mercury poisoning) thought to have been the result of his
habit of eating fish twice a day. His daily intake of fish regularly included eating a lot of Tuna in Sushi restarants and was thought to have played
a role in the poisoning.
I know that the Santa Monica Bay off Los Angeles has been polluted for years by runoff from chemical and waste run-off. Though it has improved greatly
over the last 25 years or so, I still wouldn't eat any fish from it!!
In Baja...I think I would be very careful about eating fish caught in certain areas! I can think of several from places I've visited. Maybe some other
Nomads can weigh in with places they consider unsafe.
Miguelamo  
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AmoPescar
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I Agree with you soulpatch...
If it had not been all the surfers and environmental activists, we might have
never known how bad S.M. Bay was. The politicos are all in the pockets of big business and tend to sweep things under the rug...or appoint cronies of
theirs to commissions to study the problem and report back in 10 years.
I used to have a boat in Newport Harbor in OC. The amount of crap floating around in and on the water was always quite a bit. BUT...after a heavy rain
and run-off the amount of crap washing into the Bay was unbelievably heavy!!
Mu son and I made numerous fishing trips to Palmas de Cortez on the East Cape SOC. On one trip, we got quite sick, throwing up, etc. First thought was
bad food from their kitchen, But no one else seemed to be sick and their kitchen ans staff seemed to be spotless!
Finally figured it out. We were snokeling along the beach every day and were the only ones doing it. I think the cruisers were dumping their Potties
in the bay while cleaning their boats at the end of the day. Or maybe the hotel or village was dumping sewage offshore.
We fished from their beach too, but sure wouldn't have wanted to eat any fish from it!!
Miguelamo 
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MitchMan
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Toneart, well stated. The only thing that matters are the objective substantiated facts.
Santa Monica bay and environs have been dangerously poluted for not just years, but decades. I remember reading a published report by the CA dept of
fish and game about 30 years ago and scared me straight. The situation in So Cal waters is one of the main reasons I stopped fishing there and came
south to BCS. The other reason is, THERE ARE NO FISH THERE!
I used to launch out of Dana Point (best launch ramps I have ever seen), but I and other anglers would come back with nothing more than a couple of
sand bass. Made us feel stupid to have invested so much money in a boat and truck and come back with maybe one or two of those silly sand bass after
fishing all day.
[Edited on 4-5-2011 by MitchMan]
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Cypress
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Lived on a bayou when I was a kid down along the Gulf of Mexico. They built a chemical ferilizer plant near the mouth of the bayou. One morning all
the fish in the bayou were dead. My parents called the state game and fish, they sent biologists to determine the cause. Verdict, all the fish died
from "natural causes". Yep, made a sceptic out of me. The govt. will lie when it suits their purpose.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
Toneart, well stated. The only thing that matters are the objective substantiated facts.
Santa Monica bay and environs have been dangerously poluted for not just years, but decades. I remember reading a published report by the CA dept of
fish and game about 30 years ago and scared me straight. The situation in So Cal waters is one of the main reasons I stopped fishing there and came
south to BCS. The other reason is, THERE ARE NO FISH THERE!
I used to launch out of Dana Point (best launch ramps I have ever seen), but I and other anglers would come back with nothing more than a couple of
sand bass. Made us feel stupid to have invested so much money in a boat and truck and come back with maybe one or two of those silly sand bass after
fishing all day.
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For years, in San Diego, there was a group of surfers who took their own samples of the water quality. It was the one you could depend on rather than
the "official" readings. Do they still do this?
Doubtful they could measure the radiation level though.
[Edited on 4-5-2011 by toneart]
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
How long before some will claim the radiation off Japan will get into Pacific food chain and boycott eating Pacific fish?  [/quote
It's a fact that the tuna that visit our waters travel from Japan, with the huge amounts of radiated water now leaking into the Pacific, how could it
not effect the pelagic fish? You watch, they are saying it may cause birth defects, how about some sushi? |
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
How long before some will claim the radiation off Japan will get into Pacific food chain and boycott eating Pacific fish? [/quote
It's a fact that the tuna that visit our waters travel from Japan, with the huge amounts of radiated water now leaking into the Pacific, how could it
not effect the pelagic fish? You watch, they are saying it may cause birth defects, how about some sushi? |
I see your in Ojai, do you fish Lake Casitas? what a fine lake that is. I was an engineering intern on the lake Casitas seismic retrofit project in
1999. We fished the water along the face of the damn as well as the closed cove to the North..just inside the bouy line.
Talk about monster bass, and catfish. I worked 9pm to 9am and monitored the dewatering wells along the damn face when we did teh seismic retrofit. my
actual work was only 2 hrs..the rest of the time I fished with a army corp of engineers friend. there are some big arse bass in that lake!
to tie it into the original post..being that it's a lake , the radiation is not a factor...but those catfish sure tasted like mud! |
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
How long before some will claim the radiation off Japan will get into Pacific food chain and boycott eating Pacific fish? [/quote
It's a fact that the tuna that visit our waters travel from Japan, with the huge amounts of radiated water now leaking into the Pacific, how could it
not effect the pelagic fish? You watch, they are saying it may cause birth defects, how about some sushi? |
I see your in Ojai, do you fish Lake Casitas? what a fine lake that is. I was an engineering intern on the lake Casitas seismic retrofit project in
1999. We fished the water along the face of the damn as well as the closed cove to the North..just inside the bouy line.
Talk about monster bass, and catfish. I worked 9pm to 9am and monitored the dewatering wells along the damn face when we did teh seismic retrofit. my
actual work was only 2 hrs..the rest of the time I fished with a army corp of engineers friend. there are some big arse bass in that lake!
to tie it into the original post..being that it's a lake , the radiation is not a factor...but those catfish sure tasted like mud! |
They have made it hard to fish Casitas, because of the Quaga mussels, now you have to pay $50 get a cable that locks the boat so you can't use it
anywhere else, then wait 10 days before you are allowed in the lake. So if you want to take your boat in the ocean you have to cut the seal, use your
boat go back to Casitas, get a new seal then wait 10 days. If you live in Ojai and only use your boat at Casitas, it's great, almost like a private
lake, for the rest of us it's a loss of a resource. |
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bajabass
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There were mercury warnings about fish in the Great Lakes as early as I can remember, the mid 60's or so. As a kid growing up in Michigan, I'd bring home some perch or bass and Mom said ditch 'em, they are poisoned! I really think she just didn't want to have to cook up her son's catch!!!!
Keep your eyes on the road, and your hands upon the wheel!
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Cypress
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The amount of radioactive water being released in Japan is bound to be absorbed by the pelagic fish in that region of the Pacific. Question is, do
these same fish migrate to the waters off the US, Mexico and all the rest of the countries along the Pacific?
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