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chrisx
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observatory weather?
In the mountains East of San Telmo, is an Observatory.
20 kilometers South of the observatory is an old mission?
Anybody know how to get a weather report for up there, way up there.
Somewhere around there is the highest point in Baja.
Does a road or trail go from the observatory to the mission?
HEY GRINGO HIT THE BRAKES
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
In the mountains East of San Telmo, is an Observatory.
20 kilometers South of the observatory is an old mission?
Anybody know how to get a weather report for up there, way up there.
Somewhere around there is the highest point in Baja.
Does a road or trail go from the observatory to the mission? |
the observatory has a webcam, and online weather station readings. but you really don't need a weather report, just need to know the seasons.
spring thru early july is good time to visit. later in summer (e.g. hurricane season, and when the thermals heat up) you get daily t-storms, so peak
bagging gets dicey. fall (late sept, oct and nov) is a another good time to visit.
get jerry schaad's map of the park, it is the best map of the old roads and trails. most of the old roads are prohibited from vehicle travel, but are
passable for mt biking (some of the roads are used by ranchers, either on horse back or trucks). with a set of panniers on your mt bike, you can
explore the plateau and probably get close to the old mission via bike.
most of the mapped trails are over grown due to low use, and the plateau is broad and flattish -- it is hard place to navigate, so make sure you got
orienteering skills and are experienced at bush whacking.
i think "mission boy" (aka DK) has some tales about the SPM mission accessed via west route
[Edited on 4-8-2011 by mtgoat666]
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fishabductor
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FYI it gets really cold up there, so make sure you go prepared...by cold I mean COLD!
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BajaGringo
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AstroBaja, a member here has his own observatory / B&B camp up there. The big advantage is that although the park closes down at night, you can
stay with Mike & Pamela and try some incredible star gazing from their telescope up there...
Baja Dark Skies Inn
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chrisx
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park closed at night?
looks like a big park on my map
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
park closed at night?
looks like a big park on my map |
When the care taker leaves at night (you'll recognize her, she's kinda big and in a red toyota corolla), just ask her for a weather report.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
park closed at night? |
no. you can camp in the park. many do. however, there is an entrance gate/fee collector, and that gate is closed at night.
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chrisx
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| Quote: | | get jerry schaad's map of the park, it is the best map of the old roads and trails. most of the old roads are prohibited from vehicle travel, but
are passable for mt biking (some of the roads are used by ranchers, either on horse back or trucks). with a set of panniers on your mt bike, you can
explore the plateau and probably get close to the old mission via bike. |
any idea where to get jerry Schaad's map?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
any idea where to get jerry Schaad's map? |
google. contact the publisher. how else would you buy a small run publication?
if it is out of print, you can always find it used on the interweb.
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chrisx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
by cold I mean COLD! |
Does cold mean a bottle of water gets ice in it, or does COLD mean a bottle of water freezes solid over night?
REALLY COLD means a gallon jug freezes solid over night
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chrisx
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I presume there is at least some water up there?? ?
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chrisx
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Perhaps of some import-ants: how hard is it to find the highest point in Baja?
Is it obvious which point is highest, or do I just make a guess?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
by cold I mean COLD! |
Does cold mean a bottle of water gets ice in it, or does COLD mean a bottle of water freezes solid over night?
REALLY COLD means a gallon jug freezes solid over night |
freezing nights usually only in winter. not in summer.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
I presume there is at least some water up there?? ? |
not always. ground is very porous on plateau, so streams don't flow far. there are a few perm streams and ponds - ask about them when you get there.
one good perm stream is on road, just below observatory. the canyons draining east off the plateau have streams.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
Perhaps of some import-ants: how hard is it to find the highest point in Baja?
Is it obvious which point is highest, or do I just make a guess? |
is obvious. is a kick-ass hike. read the online blogs about climbing picacho del diablo. many climbers have posted their stories and route map.
and the jerry schad map has good guide to find the peak.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
the jerry schad map has good guide to find the peak. |
Which goes to prove some people will buy anything offered to them. You don't need a book to tell you the peak is at the top.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
park closed at night?
looks like a big park on my map |
When the care taker leaves at night (you'll recognize her, she's kinda big and in a red toyota corolla), just ask her for a weather report.
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WHAM! Took the words out of my mouth.
Sorry I am late here...I was too drunk to get to the key board on time!
chrisx....why not just take a electric heater....there's an outlet on every tree.
[Edited on 4-8-2011 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chrisx
park closed at night?
looks like a big park on my map |
Sorry, I meant the observatory...
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fishabductor
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We were there in Sept and it did freeze, there was also streams. Look for the Aspens and you'll likely find water. We found water in many places.
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Graham
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You might want to check out this thread about my latest visit last May, with photos of peak, road, snow, condors, etc.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=45482&pag...
Hate to plug my own book  but if you want to read 35 chapters about the San
Pedro Martir and camping up there for four months check out:
Nearer My Dog to thee... A summer in Baja's Sky Island.
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