Originally posted by El Camote
I remember drooling over one of these on the Chevy dealer's car lot on the way home from school. $6K was a lot of dough-re-mi back then...
well, mine is the orange one on the left only in better shape, sbc 350/350hp, 4spd muncie, gymkhana susp. fully retored/modified so I'm hoping she'll
do just fine. I appreciate all your input and for the positive feedback. It's 11:10pm PDT here and the vette is almost all packed and ready for an
early morning launch. Thanks for all the good wishes and hope to see y'all in La Paz..........thanks for the pics!...................Keith
Originally posted by Doug/Vamonos
What a bunch of old freekin' guys on this site! This is the freekin' GumBall Rally. Go for it! Put the pedal to the metal and run that bad boy the
distance! I once had a 69 Firebird that I transplanted a 455 and 4-speed Muncie and did a lot of suspension work. Took that bad boy for a drive from
SoCal to Monterey up Highway 1 and what a freekin' blast. Might as well have been Riverside Raceway in 1969. I know I never got more than 8mpg because
I was in it the entire way. My dream is to take a muscle car for a blast down the Baja peninsula. Bring enough money to pay off the federales and go
for it!
Maybe you're right. But it's just too glorious to just blast thru without necessity. At some point you realize the merits of posies and such.
Mexicans are not really into sports cars, so I wouldn't worry about theft, also not as a put down, but you can buy this year VETTE for a song and a
dance, the price for that year is??
Sounds like a great trip to me. I brought my '67 Alfa Romeo Duetto (which can't be any higher than your Vette) from Oak Harbor, Washington down to La
Paz last summer and had no issues with the road, bumps, topes or anything else. We easily made it from San Diego to Guerrero Negro on the first day
and were home in La Paz by late afternoon on the second. Enjoy the trip and prepare yourself for lots of attention, we don't see too many of those
types of cars in these parts and people do appreciate the opportunity to see something different. You may also be interested in showing it at one of
the classic auto shows they put on at the malecon once or twice a year.
As for worrying about theft, I wouldn't think that such a car would be a high target down here--except perhaps for a joy rider. It isn't like there's
much of a re-sale or parts market for that vehicle, and where would one drive it and not get spotted right away?
Originally posted by fishingmako
Mexicans are not really into sports cars, so I wouldn't worry about theft, also not as a put down, but you can buy this year VETTE for a song and a
dance, the price for that year is??
Mexicans are not into sports cars? Really? That certainly hasn't been my experience in Mexico, and over the years I've driven several cars that would
qualify.
I think that men the world over (note, I didn't say "every man in the world") are hard-wired for sports cars, it's just that most countries don't have
the economy to offer them the chance to indulge themselves (sports cars are a very selfish means of personal transportation). In fact, somewhere out
there is a Corvette from the 1960s that is known as "El Presidente" and is worth a fortune precisely because it was special ordered by a Mexican
president.
And, as for the "value" (or lack of) you assign to the car, that seems like an uncalled-for remark. It's about the experience, not the cost of the
car.
Originally posted by Bajatripper
people do appreciate the opportunity to see something different.
As for worrying about theft, I wouldn't think that such a car would be a high target down here--except perhaps for a joy rider. It isn't like there's
much of a re-sale or parts market for that vehicle, and where would one drive it and not get spotted right away?
They *do* love the Gringo machines on the road!
And I totally agree about where in hell would they hide it?
To boot (discounting the cartels), they are a way better behaved society than we are.
Originally posted by Barbarosa
To boot (discounting the cartels), they are a way better behaved society than we are.
Really??? Based on what? Are you up to date with the demographics of the more seamy side of society in Mexico [discounting cartels] compared to
similar groups in the US?
It has been my first hand understanding that most expats with which I have contact here have absolutly no idea of the amount or degree of crime in
their own neighborhood given that most of them are incommunicado by choice. If they were able to read a newspaper or understand the TV news, they
would be out of here in no time.
Originally posted by Barbarosa
To boot (discounting the cartels), they are a way better behaved society than we are.
Really??? Based on what? Are you up to date with the demographics of the more seamy side of society in Mexico [discounting cartels] compared to
similar groups in the US?
It has been my first hand understanding that most expats with which I have contact here have absolutly no idea of the amount or degree of crime in
their own neighborhood given that most of them are incommunicado by choice. If they were able to read a newspaper or understand the TV news, they
would be out of here in no time.
Really? Stunning!
"Based on what?" Entirely anecdotal to be sure. In *all* my many travels down there they are polite respectful people. Doesn't mean there's those
among them who won't try to help themselves to a few pesos making change at the gas pump.
But I find them warm friendly extremely courteous folks who want us to have a good time (and are happy to have that time with us).
Maybe it's just me. But that's my view of Baja. Not counting the border and not counting Cabo. Way back then, and even now.
I find the locals to be kind, very helpful, very friendly, non judgemental, resourceful, generous, and lazy and remiss. In the Mexican culture, you
are emotionally safe. That's why many Americans like Mexico. It is the government agency people and sales people that suck.
I don't hold laziness or being remiss against the locals because, well, that is why I go down there 10 times a year...because I want to be lazy and
remiss. I see being successfully lazy and remiss as an artform and virtue and as the ultimate intelligent way to live out your remaining years.
If you're going to make the trip from San Diego to La Paz, don't do it in two days. All things considered, it's too dangerous to do it that fast,
plus, you miss the point about being in Mexico. 2 and a half days is safe and comfortable. In Mexico, it's all about "smelling the roses".
Originally posted by MitchMan
I find the locals to be kind, very helpful, very friendly, non judgemental, resourceful, generous, and lazy and remiss. In the Mexican culture, you
are emotionally safe. That's why many Americans like Mexico. It is the government agency people and sales people that suck.
I don't hold laziness or being remiss against the locals because, well, that is why I go down there 10 times a year...because I want to be lazy and
remiss. I see being successfully lazy and remiss as an artform and virtue and as the ultimate intelligent way to live out your remaining years.
In Mexico, it's all about "smelling the roses".
The nature of the people, spot on.
The characterization of the gov't employees? And this distinguishes them from the US HOW? <h>
Lazy? Well, I just consider it mostly a cultural difference. We have different values in that regard. I choose ours, but I don't know that we're
right and they're wrong on that one.
Originally posted by MitchMan
I find the locals to be kind, very helpful, very friendly, non judgemental, resourceful, generous,
In your glaring generalization, Mitch, you forgot "Cute and unpredictable."
Actually, this is a good example of selective evaluation. When is the last time you looked for these traits in your US neighborhood?
Maybe never. We tend to overlook that which we understand as the norm. There are many who live in Anaheim who have never been to Disneyland, or New
Yorkers who have never visited the Statue of Liberty. They know it's there, but they don't really know the place.
Another thing before I crack my first beer.....I'm willing to go all in by saying most who see these traits as dominant characteristics of a people
are unable to speak and reason with them in their language...at least past the grunting and pointing stage. To them, the Mexican people are just like
Disneyland is to the people mentioned above who know they're there, but don't really know them.
Originally posted by MitchMan
I find the locals to be kind, very helpful, very friendly, non judgemental, resourceful, generous,
In your glaring generalization, Mitch, you forgot "Cute and unpredictable."
Actually, this is a good example of selective evaluation. When is the last time you looked for these traits in your US neighborhood?
Maybe never. We tend to overlook that which we understand as the norm. There are many who live in Anaheim who have never been to Disneyland, or New
Yorkers who have never visited the Statue of Liberty. They know it's there, but they don't really know the place.
Another thing before I crack my first beer.....I'm willing to go all in by saying most who see these traits as dominant characteristics of a people
are unable to speak and reason with them in their language...at least past the grunting and pointing stage. To them, the Mexican people are just like
Disneyland is to the people mentioned above who know they're there, but don't really know them.
hey gramps (grumps)... don't you have some kids to shoo from your front lawn??
Originally posted by drarroyo
hey gramps (grumps)... don't you have some kids to shoo from your front lawn??
That's something you should seriously consider doing instead of inviting them in, Padre.
I'll admit I don't know youse guys here very well, yet. (I no doubt know Baja better than I know youse.) But to you (Dennis) I think you live in a
pretty dark world. And much as I hate to be judgmental, I'm pretty sure I like my life better than I'd like yours. There's a lot of wonderful people
out there.
C'mon, everyone sing (remember the Disneyland reference?)
IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL! [REPEAT]
(SEG)
Originally posted by Barbarosa
But to you (Dennis) I think you live in a pretty dark world. And much as I hate to be judgmental, I'm pretty sure I like my life better than I'd
like yours. There's a lot of wonderful people out there.
Well...that was pretty much a large part of my point. Didn't realize I presented it in such a cryptic fashion as to lose you completely.
Point, again, was, one doesn't have to dive into the confusion of a foreign culture to find high quality in people. These traits are everywhere in
people to be found if you want to find them.
There are parts of my above statement that you have chosen to ignore and that leaves me to believe it's all over your head to comprehend. I'll leave
you to wander around here in your cultural goo and extract what you think is virtue from a people you can't begin to decipher, but because of your
self-appointed position of superiority, believe you have that Rosetta Stone in your hands.
Don't spend any more of your pointless time heaping evaluations upon me. They're just a lame cop-out to your lack of knowledge of a culture you claim
to have all figuered out. Your efforts would be better spent toward anthropology than criticism. Perhaps then you might see Mexicans as a complex
human being rather than a breed of loyal, well trained dog.
Now....until you have something constructive to say, don't.
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt
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